Question about flipping the bar
I got fitted/sized for my bike in December. Everything felt comfortable at the time, but now, after about 600 miles on the bike, when I get in the drops, they feel too high to me. Also, when I'm riding on the hoods, they're starting to feel too close to me. I was told that eventually I'd want to flip the stem to make it lower. My question, is if this is done, will I have to change my saddle height as well? I ask because when I go into the drops, I tend to have to slide back in the saddle. It seems like I'd be more comfortable with a higher saddle when I'm lower, but I'm not sure if this would be the right thing to do.
Have any of you changed (or remember lowering your handle bars)? What was the experience like? Thanks! |
Originally Posted by Metallifan33
(Post 21386748)
My question, is if this is done, will I have to change my saddle height as well?
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Originally Posted by Metallifan33
(Post 21386748)
I tend to have to slide back in the saddle.
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Originally Posted by Cypress
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Have you tried bending your elbows?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 21386791)
No. Saddle positing should be set relative to BB/crankset/pedals. Handlebar position should be set relative to your saddle, not the other way around.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 21386791)
No. Saddle positing should be set relative to BB/crankset/pedals. Handlebar position should be set relative to your saddle, not the other way around.
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Saddles have a good amount of length -- typically over 7", so I think the point is that riders do shift position on the saddle depending on riding position for the hands. OTOH, the original question as to whether saddle height should adjust, I'd say no, but it's possible some tweak to fore/aft makes sense depending on your %age of time on top, hoods or drops.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 21386840)
but typically when lowering the bars people like to use a steeper seat angle,
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Originally Posted by Metallifan33
(Post 21386848)
So when you say "steeper," do you mean the nose of the saddle points up or down?
The article, btw, is here: https://www.slowtwitch.com/Tech/Grea...like_6939.html |
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 21386840)
Saddle distance from BB should be constant, but typically when lowering the bars people like to use a steeper seat angle, which is what our friend is describing. I don't have the cite I was looking for, which was a column on Slowtwitch about multiple bike fitters creating rigs to accomplish this independently. Unfortunately, while Slowman is brilliant at a lot of things, his site is very difficult to explore.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 21386907)
It struck me as a high level overview type of question.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 21386985)
And I, as per usual, tried to fill the fish tank with a fire hose.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 21386854)
Oh dear god no! The saddle should remain level.
If you're rocking a lot of drop, it's fine to point the nose down a tad. Pros do it. |
Originally Posted by Kimmo
(Post 21387409)
What, this shibboleth still has legs?
If you're rocking a lot of drop, it's fine to point the nose down a tad. Pros do it. |
Originally Posted by Metallifan33
(Post 21386829)
Yeah, that's the problem; I have to bend them too much when I'm in the drops.
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Flipping a 6 degree stem will make quite a bit of difference in the bar height and lengthen the reach. I don't agree that you should need to be moving around on the saddle, if all else is adjusted correctly. Lowering the bars by 2cm may require a small change in the saddle angle to bring the nose down a bit, but try it without, first. Lower only if you feel excessive pressure at the front. Some posts with serrated angle adjustment work poorly. I always use a 2-bolt rocker style post, like the fsa k-force.
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Originally Posted by colnago62
(Post 21395265)
Is that why, though? I Ask because you don’t really see trackies lowering the tips of their saddles and they generally ride with more drop than a road setup.
Trackies are on their bikes how long at a time? |
Originally Posted by 69chevy
(Post 21396870)
It takes pressure off of your perinium.
Trackies are on their bikes how long at a time? |
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