Disc wheel for TT
About to do a 12-mile TT with 500 feet of climbing. Opinions on Zipp 808 or disc wheel? Also, if it’s windy, which one is better?
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Originally Posted by rclouviere
(Post 22657194)
About to do a 12-mile TT with 500 feet of climbing. Opinions on Zipp 808 or disc wheel? Also, if it’s windy, which one is better?
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Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 22657205)
How about 808 Front and Disc in back?
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If it's not super windy, go with the disc. When you warm up, if it feels like the wind is pulling you around too much, switch to the 808.
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Always disc on back. If it was windy enough for it to be dangerous they'd cancel the event. I worked for a women's pro team for a decade and they (even the smallest girls) ALWAYS used the rear disc. Even in wind strong enough to wreck pop-up canopies in NM at Gila they'd use the disc. Some climbing on that course as well. I've never felt the rear wheel to be much of a problem at all compared to the front. If it's windy use a low pro front.
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Disc.
And this:
Originally Posted by cxwrench
(Post 22657470)
If it's windy use a low pro front.
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Originally Posted by cxwrench
(Post 22657470)
Always disc on back. If it was windy enough for it to be dangerous they'd cancel the event. I worked for a women's pro team for a decade and they (even the smallest girls) ALWAYS used the rear disc. Even in wind strong enough to wreck pop-up canopies in NM at Gila they'd use the disc. Some climbing on that course as well. I've never felt the rear wheel to be much of a problem at all compared to the front. If it's windy use a low pro front.
I have never had an issue with a disc on the rear when windy. Don't even notice its there as far as bike handling goes. |
Originally Posted by cxwrench
(Post 22657470)
Always disc on back. If it was windy enough for it to be dangerous they'd cancel the event. I worked for a women's pro team for a decade and they (even the smallest girls) ALWAYS used the rear disc. Even in wind strong enough to wreck pop-up canopies in NM at Gila they'd use the disc. Some climbing on that course as well. I've never felt the rear wheel to be much of a problem at all compared to the front. If it's windy use a low pro front.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
(Post 22657751)
I don't know if they still do, but they used to hold TT championships at Lake Los Angeles and I remember leaving my disc in the car and many competitors did the same. Rumor had it someone drifted off the pavement, but I didn't think it was a safety issue so much as figuring that we would lose time and energy swerving all over the road and fighting the crosswinds.
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Originally Posted by cxwrench
(Post 22657905)
Wrong. Read post 7.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
(Post 22657914)
Yeah, I read that post, and if you read mine you’d see I had a totally different experience, and that many others that day felt similarly. Maybe it was because I weighed 125 back then, but I felt like I was getting tossed around like laundry on a clothes line.
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Originally Posted by cxwrench
(Post 22658432)
Dunno, maybe not a great TT position on your bike? Maybe you're not a great bike rider (nothing at all meant by that)? All I know is that every girl/woman I ever worked with used a rear disc at EVERY TT. Some mentioned the wind but none ever had any serious problems and it was for sure faster. They had a 3 time Olympic TT champion as either a teammate or director and she made sure I put a disc on every bike. I tried to get a hold of a disc for the track (Hellyer, outdoors) every time I could, which wasn't often enough but it was never a big deal. I think a lot of people get it in their head that it will be a problem and succumb to that.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight
(Post 22658447)
That's entirely possible (no offense taken), my Olympic dreams were abandoned decades ago and ITT was definitely not my best event (though I was pretty good at pursuit... go figure). I raced at Hellyer a few times, much like my home track (Encino) but a little less bumpy.
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Originally Posted by cxwrench
(Post 22658869)
Never raced at Encino...it's bumpier than Hellyer?!? They repaved the apron at Hellyer a bunch of years ago and screwed up by a tiny little bit. The black line went from 333m to 335m. Makes for some weird start/finish marks.
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So how did it go???
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HED now makes a wheel for those who can't decide. The Jet 180.
I thought this was some kind of April fools joke when I first saw it: https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0db2aa5620.png |
^ When I first saw that, I thought "damn you're gonna need a LOOOONG valve extender!" 😂 Then realised it has a valve hole cut-out like a disc.
I don't see many people using that weirdly deep wheel, unless it's in a specific race where discs are banned. Also ...
Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 22659574)
So how did it go???
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Originally Posted by msu2001la
(Post 22659781)
HED now makes a wheel for those who can't decide. The Jet 180.
I thought this was some kind of April fools joke when I first saw it: https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0db2aa5620.png |
full disc always is better... unless it's like 50mph+ wind
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Originally Posted by cxwrench
(Post 22661656)
It's not about deciding. At Ironman Kona you can't use a disc because they seem to think the crosswinds are a problem. Maybe for a triathlete that probably isn't very good on the bike and is very tired.
I take their word for it. Also IM events have like 500-1000 people? A time trial might have like 30 to 60 people on course at any point in time for a full 40k distance. So there's that also. |
Kona? Yeah, OK.
These HED wheels will be a big hit with the MUP warriors who swerve around kids and dogs in their aero tucks while training for the local sprint race. |
Originally Posted by msu2001la
(Post 22659781)
HED now makes a wheel for those who can't decide. The Jet 180.
I thought this was some kind of April fools joke when I first saw it: https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0db2aa5620.png |
There were quite a few (I assume wheel-sponsored) athletes running that mega-deep wheel at Kona over the weekend. The look is growing on me, although I'm never going to race at KONA so a full disc will do me.
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The 180 is just a new version of the old 1080. I mean, it looks deeper, but the 1080 was a thing for quite a while.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 22673751)
The 180 is just a new version of the old 1080. I mean, it looks deeper, but the 1080 was a thing for quite a while.
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