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3speed 07-26-12 10:38 PM

Anyone got a drop bar 3 speed? Pics are always a plus, of course!
 
I'm thinking of building up a drop bar commuter out of a Tange 2 frame I have. I've got myself liking the idea of something simple with a 3sp internally geared hub and light weight aluminum fenders. I'm thinking that build would turn out to be a pretty quick, light weight, and low maintenance bike. Who has one or has tried one? What do/did you think?

ftwelder 07-27-12 03:25 AM

Well it sure ain't light. Rudge de luxe with Raleigh GP parts

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2759/5...607a0bf1c6.jpg
27 107 by barnstormerbikes, on Flickr

Bianchigirll 07-27-12 05:32 AM

Drop bar 7spd? Oh wait sorry it is 21 spd but it is an IGH

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...1&d=1272644497

rhm 07-27-12 05:52 AM

I did that to my Lambert. Here's a photo of it when I first had it all together:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3296/...16489553_b.jpg

And on a recent century:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--...0/IMG_6335.JPG

I ride this bike on Long Island, where there are not many hills. Perfectly adequate for that; I ride with guys who have more gears, but my limited gearing doesn't seem to hold me back much.

I've also got an old Raleigh Record Ave set up as a five speed; the five speed hub is kinda like having two three speed hubs in one shell, so you have two shifters, and a bit wider range, which is useful on hills. All in all it's a very similar ride.

So I'd say yeah, go for it.

Pompiere 07-27-12 06:25 AM

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Kabuki Super Speed, Shimano hub laced to 27" wheels, Pasella tires. Using 39x18 to get 44, 59 and 78 inches. It is pretty flat here, so I have gears for head winds, tail winds, and cruising.

Edit: I noticed the pictures were gone so I restored them. In the ten years since this thread was posted, I returned the Kabuki back to derailleur shifting.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3c8d473bd4.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...112e706609.jpg

Velognome 07-27-12 07:08 AM

'62 Sports
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8014/7...605d4a15_c.jpg

81 Comp GS
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7254/7...9ac0e80c_c.jpg

Do inverted North Road bars count?
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7278/7...2f535097_z.jpg

photogravity 07-27-12 07:29 AM

Anyone got a drop bar 3 speed? Pics are always a plus, of course!
 
Here are a couple of my dropbar IGH bicycles. The Hercules Kestrel is a 3-speed and the Norman Rapide is a 4-speed.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7275/7...9cd3e6af_b.jpg
Hercules Kestrel - First Ride - C&O Canal Towpath - 1 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6...7170ce59_b.jpg
Norman Rapide - Valley Trail - 2 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr

Kobe 07-27-12 07:50 AM

I saw the title for the thread, 3 speed drop bars and I think of the Norman Rapide. How's that for word association?

noglider 07-27-12 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by 3speed (Post 14533156)
I'm thinking of building up a drop bar commuter out of a Tange 2 frame I have. I've got myself liking the idea of something simple with a 3sp internally geared hub and light weight aluminum fenders. I'm thinking that build would turn out to be a pretty quick, light weight, and low maintenance bike. Who has one or has tried one? What do/did you think?

The quickness depends mostly on the overall weight of the bike. Using light rims and tires will help a lot. As you suspect, it will be low maintenance. The thing that will occupy most of your time once you get it built will be keeping the fenders straight. It will be a bit heavier than a similarly-geared derailleur bike. But there is an elegance to an IGH bike.

The AW hub annoys me with its gears so far apart. When I shift down, I have to slow way down, so if I don't want to tire myself out, I end up going much more slowly than on a bike with a "full" set of gears.

I think choosing your ratio carefully can help. My Rudge Sports is heavy at about 40 lbs, so I geared it super-low. photogravity sent me a special, hard-to-find 24T sprocket for the rear. The chainring is 48T. So all my gears are low. You won't need to go so low. But since you'll have only three gears, you may want to use my approach: don't gear it too high. I go down hills fast by coasting, not pedaling. If a hill is steep, I don't need to pedal. So my gear inches are 39", 52", and 69". The top gear is suitable for pedaling down the very slightest of grades. The bottom gear will get me up any hill, even when I'm towing a big load of cargo with my trailer.

For a lightweight, drop-bar bike, I might gear it with something like 42/18. This gives you gears of 47", 63"and 84". This assumes a fairly low cadence where you use top gear for cruising in the city or a high cadence (or slow speed) in the middle gear.

auchencrow 07-27-12 08:03 AM

'51 Armstrong.
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...ng1951002a.jpg

noglider 07-27-12 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by auchencrow (Post 14534015)
'51 Armstrong.

I would kill for a bike that color. Is there a name for it?

Velognome 07-27-12 08:47 AM

^ I'm lovin' the rear rack on the Armstrong...and now I want one too....so what's 1/4 pound to the old Raleigh anyway?!

H.S.Clydesdale 07-27-12 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 14533771)
81 Comp GS

This is gorgeous.

AZORCH 07-27-12 08:53 AM

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6172/6...02014a75_z.jpg

I've converted several road bikes to 3-speed IGH. This is the most recent, a Shogun 300 conversion from last year.

photogravity 07-27-12 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by KOBE (Post 14533962)
I saw the title for the thread, 3 speed drop bars and I think of the Norman Rapide. How's that for word association?

:thumb: I guess I'm succeeding in my mission then! Of all the bikes I have, the Norman is my all-time favorite. I can honestly say that if I could have only one single-rider bike, the Norman would be the one to keep. I am truly enamored with this bike, to put it mildly. :love:

brian3069 07-27-12 09:15 AM

In the planning stage.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/s...ture2056-1.jpg

tatia 07-27-12 09:24 AM

Sorry I have no pictures, but I do have a three speed with dropped bars. It may be a little different that the bikes posted, a Fuji Track with actually differnt bars to make one of my favorite rides a multiuse do everything bike. The three speed with drop bars is quite simple, I mounted the shifter on the stem with no problem. I also have a set of upright touriing type bars with a traditional shifter set up. The bike will also accomadate a single speed and I can easily turn it back into the track bike for a trip to the velodrome. It may seem extreme to some but I can easily change one configuration to another in less than thirty minutes.
Use your imagination and experiment with your wrenching and by all means have some fun.

Velognome 07-27-12 09:31 AM


I saw the title for the thread, 3 speed drop bars and I think of the Norman Rapide
Strange since it's a 4 speed! But I understand what you mean, it's a classic!

3speed 07-27-12 12:41 PM

Some of you have some beautiful bikes in this style! Now I Have to do it. Mine won't be as nice looking as many of yours, but I think it will ride nicely.

Noglider - It would be heavier than a derailer geared bike? I figured the 3sp hub, while being heavy, would weigh less than a freewheel, two derailers, and the extra chain-ring and shifter/cable. Maybe I'll start looking into the lightest 3sp hub I can find that looks decent.

photogravity 07-27-12 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by auchencrow (Post 14534015)
'51 Armstrong.

That is just such a nice bike... If you EVER sell it, I would love to be the first person in line for this baby.

photogravity 07-27-12 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 14534455)
Strange since it's a 4 speed! But I understand what you mean, it's a classic!

Well, I sure wasn't going to correct him! I frequently try to sneak it in on 3-speed bicycle discussions. ;)

rhm 07-27-12 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by 3speed (Post 14535551)
Maybe I'll start looking into the lightest 3sp hub I can find that looks decent.

Yeah, start a thread on that!

I once weighed two AW's, one with a steel shell and the other with the aluminum shell they used in the 50's, and was amazed at the difference. But of course I don't remember what the numbers were. FW's are a good bit heavier.

nlerner 07-27-12 01:24 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z...0/IMG_5561.JPG

rhm 07-27-12 01:27 PM

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6155/...caf6822f_b.jpg

photogravity 07-27-12 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 14535696)
Yeah, start a thread on that!

I once weighed two AW's, one with a steel shell and the other with the aluminum shell they used in the 50's, and was amazed at the difference. But of course I don't remember what the numbers were. FW's are a good bit heavier.

I can weigh both an alloy and a steel shell hub this evening to see what the weight difference is. I'll compare two 36-hole versions to make the comparison valid.


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