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Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln
(Post 20935629)
Our local Bike Jumble is today. I'm going over to nose around; last time there was nothing, yes, nothing, for three-speeds. Don't expect this one to be different but there's always hope.
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Originally Posted by cromagnum
(Post 20937506)
Paul How was the jumble ? I intended to go but things got in the way.
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Here are some pics of the Raleigh Sprite after a good clean and a clear coat plus some upgrades (6 speed freewheel and a new rear derailleur + new tumbie). I will replace the seat when I take it back to the shop Wednesday. I didn't have the heart to steal the wheels off the red Hercules . It is just too nice the way it is. The pedals are an interesting feature. They are not chrome and don't look like galvanized either. I am curious. They aren't rusty . Some kind or alloy but not sure what. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5f2dd0ac8c.jpg
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Free brake caliper and lever
I have an English brake caliper (missing the clamping bolt and nut) and lever for the cost of postage. They are in decent condition - what you see is what you get. I should have put this in "Pay It Forward", but I thought this forum would be best. Forgot to mention that the brake has the long bolt for the front.
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My wife and I rode in the 50 mile event of the Santa Fe Century yesterday. (She figures that, with getting to and from the event and going grocery store shopping afterwards, we actually bicycled 75 miles). I'm sad to report that, in the 2000 + riders in the event, I believe I'm the only person riding a three speed. I believe I was the only person bicycling in blue jeans as well. I wasn't the fastest, by any stretch, but we did pass a lot of people. I was surprised at the number we passed while climbing. I thought that would be where the Raleigh would be at a disadvantage. The bike was generally well received, but there was a little bit of indignation from some of the people I passed who were on racing bikes. I got one real loud "Hey!" as I went past one person. We participated in the Vintage bike show during packet pickup the night before, and I had the only three-speed there as well. I'm afraid I didn't win any prizes, but then, my bike has been restored to daily rider status, not to show status. There were some very lovely vintage bicycles, including some Hetchins that had lovely fancy lugs. I met Classic and Vintage listserv memeber Andy Matipas, who was down with his wife and son from Colorado for the event and was showing vintage bikes as well. It was a great, fun time, but as far as three speeds go, maybe it wasn't quite my tribe. |
Originally Posted by carfreefamily
(Post 20938655)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fdd118635d.jpg
My wife and I rode in the 50 mile event of the Santa Fe Century yesterday. (She figures that, with getting to and from the event and going grocery store shopping afterwards, we actually bicycled 75 miles). I'm sad to report that, in the 2000 + riders in the event, I believe I'm the only person riding a three speed. I believe I was the only person bicycling in blue jeans as well. I wasn't the fastest, by any stretch, but we did pass a lot of people. I was surprised at the number we passed while climbing. I thought that would be where the Raleigh would be at a disadvantage. The bike was generally well received, but that was a little bit of indignation from some of the people I passed who were on racing bikes. I got one real loud "Hey!" as I went past one person. We participated in the Vintage bike show during packet pickup the night before, and I had the only three-speed there as well. I'm afraid I didn't win any prizes, but then, my bike has been restored to daily rider status, not to show status. There were some very lovely vintage bicycles, including some Hetchins that had lovely fancy lugs. I met Classic and Vintage listserv memeber Andy Matipas, who was down with his wife and son from Colorado for the event and was showing vintage bikes as well. It was a great, fun time, but as far as three speeds go, maybe it wasn't quite my tribe. their $10,000.00+ bikes and matching $$ lycra outfits. I have a friend who had an expensive carbon fibre bike ($5000), his chain came off and wrapped around a rear stay and broke the stay . The frame was scrap. He now has a $10,000 bike that is either, under him (riding) or in his house. He can't ever leave it locked up..... |
1952 Sport
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a2f6dcf317.jpg
Just got this rusty Raleigh Sport, my first 3-speed. It's going to be a challenging project, to say the least. It has a three-cog freewheel on the 3-speed IGH. The gear indicator/chain pull is missing from the hub, so I won't be able to use it until I get new a part. Anyone know what kind of hub I might have here? It's labelled Sturmey Archer AW. |
Originally Posted by horatio
(Post 20939798)
Anyone know what kind of hub I might have here? It's labelled Sturmey Archer AW.
The added three-cog block is kind of a nifty thing to increase gear range though it also adds complication. |
Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 20939819)
Well, you answered your question: It's a Sturmey Archer AW, the one that most Raleigh 3-speeds came with. It'll have a date code w/ month and last two digits of the year. Sheldon Brown has plenty of info on servicing, etc.
The added three-cog block is kind of a nifty thing to increase gear range though it also adds complication. I think the IGH is stuck in high gear. It's hard to pedal, even on the "big" freewheel cog. Gonna try the seatpost tomorrow. Fingers crossed! |
Originally Posted by carfreefamily
(Post 20938655)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fdd118635d.jpg
My wife and I rode in the 50 mile event of the Santa Fe Century yesterday. (She figures that, with getting to and from the event and going grocery store shopping afterwards, we actually bicycled 75 miles). I'm sad to report that, in the 2000 + riders in the event, I believe I'm the only person riding a three speed. I believe I was the only person bicycling in blue jeans as well. I wasn't the fastest, by any stretch, but we did pass a lot of people. I was surprised at the number we passed while climbing. I thought that would be where the Raleigh would be at a disadvantage. The bike was generally well received, but there was a little bit of indignation from some of the people I passed who were on racing bikes. I got one real loud "Hey!" as I went past one person. We participated in the Vintage bike show during packet pickup the night before, and I had the only three-speed there as well. I'm afraid I didn't win any prizes, but then, my bike has been restored to daily rider status, not to show status. There were some very lovely vintage bicycles, including some Hetchins that had lovely fancy lugs. I met Classic and Vintage listserv memeber Andy Matipas, who was down with his wife and son from Colorado for the event and was showing vintage bikes as well. It was a great, fun time, but as far as three speeds go, maybe it wasn't quite my tribe. |
Originally Posted by horatio
(Post 20939831)
Thanks. I haven't removed enough grime to see the date code. I scanned the SB pages but saw no mention of a three cog freewheel, only five or six cog versions, and wondered if this was non-standard.
I think the IGH is stuck in high gear. It's hard to pedal, even on the "big" freewheel cog. Gonna try the seatpost tomorrow. Fingers crossed! The three-speed cogset is likely a Cyclo Benelux 3-speed conversion made to fit a Sturmey hub, although the rear derailleur on yours looks like a Shimano Eagle. Also, it looks like a shop sticker on the seat tube, so be sure to post a photo of it in the "Shop Stickers" thread. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f07b3feef5.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...07dfbd8bf3.jpg |
Originally Posted by carfreefamily
(Post 20938655)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fdd118635d.jpg
My wife and I rode in the 50 mile event of the Santa Fe Century yesterday. (She figures that, with getting to and from the event and going grocery store shopping afterwards, we actually bicycled 75 miles). I'm sad to report that, in the 2000 + riders in the event, I believe I'm the only person riding a three speed. I believe I was the only person bicycling in blue jeans as well. I wasn't the fastest, by any stretch, but we did pass a lot of people. I was surprised at the number we passed while climbing. I thought that would be where the Raleigh would be at a disadvantage. The bike was generally well received, but there was a little bit of indignation from some of the people I passed who were on racing bikes. I got one real loud "Hey!" as I went past one person. We participated in the Vintage bike show during packet pickup the night before, and I had the only three-speed there as well. I'm afraid I didn't win any prizes, but then, my bike has been restored to daily rider status, not to show status. There were some very lovely vintage bicycles, including some Hetchins that had lovely fancy lugs. I met Classic and Vintage listserv memeber Andy Matipas, who was down with his wife and son from Colorado for the event and was showing vintage bikes as well. It was a great, fun time, but as far as three speeds go, maybe it wasn't quite my tribe. |
I'd love to get hold of a 3 speed cogset for a sturmey hub. One day I'll try a homebrew 2 cog set up.
There's some nice kit in this 1938 Cyclo catalogue: threespeedhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Cyclo-Gears-1938-UK.pdfEdit: I skimmed over this at work, I've just had a closer look at it now I'm home and they're really pushing the derailleurs, no mention of adding cogs to a SA hub. Still interesting, and some cool items near the end |
Originally Posted by horatio
(Post 20939798)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a2f6dcf317.jpg
Just got this rusty Raleigh Sport, my first 3-speed. It's going to be a challenging project, to say the least. It has a three-cog freewheel on the 3-speed IGH. The gear indicator/chain pull is missing from the hub, so I won't be able to use it until I get new a part. Anyone know what kind of hub I might have here? It's labelled Sturmey Archer AW. Mid 50's trigger. More photos would help. |
Another Mystery Bike
Listed as a 1950's Power King... Looks to be a British 3 speed. Perhaps another house brand? https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e5dc313189.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6e26ab65f5.jpg |
Originally Posted by gster
(Post 20940141)
Another Mystery Bike
Listed as a 1950's Power King... Looks to be a British 3 speed. Perhaps another house brand? https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e5dc313189.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6e26ab65f5.jpg Japanese.... Shimano 333 Nice racks though.... https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...40e7131dcf.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...62726d108e.jpg |
Originally Posted by gster
(Post 20940066)
Looks like a good project. Doesn't look that rusty...
Mid 50's trigger. More photos would help. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a7674397c7.jpg |
Originally Posted by thumpism
(Post 20939875)
The IGH default gear is high unless you have cable tension pulling the indicator chain to put the hub into a lower gear.
The three-speed cogset is likely a Cyclo Benelux 3-speed conversion made to fit a Sturmey hub, although the rear derailleur on yours looks like a Shimano Eagle. Also, it looks like a shop sticker on the seat tube, so be sure to post a photo of it in the "Shop Stickers" thread. |
Originally Posted by horatio
(Post 20939798)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a2f6dcf317.jpg
Just got this rusty Raleigh Sport, my first 3-speed. It's going to be a challenging project, to say the least. It has a three-cog freewheel on the 3-speed IGH. The gear indicator/chain pull is missing from the hub, so I won't be able to use it until I get new a part. Anyone know what kind of hub I might have here? It's labelled Sturmey Archer AW. |
Originally Posted by horatio
(Post 20940217)
Good eye! Thanks for the info on the IGH and Benelux gearing. Any suggestions on a proper replacement indicator spindle, i.e. long vs short? There are several choices at bikeshop.com, i.e. long, short, Mk I, Mk III, etc.
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Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20940320)
That's a great find. These early post war roadsters are my favorites and are getting harder to find. The indicator pin/chain would normally be part # HSA 125, but I'm guessing it would be too short for the triple cog. The HSA 126 is somewhat longer and a bit harder to find. Not sure what indicator would work here.
Originally Posted by carfreefamily
(Post 20940338)
I ordered the only new spindle that Harris Cyclery had online for my '52 AG hub. Others here may know better, but if you're setting the tension by going for slight movement of the spindle in low gear, I think any spindle made for an AW hub will do.
Thanks. The bikeshop.com indicator pins are inexpensive, so I'll probably order one of each. |
Originally Posted by horatio
(Post 20940375)
Thanks. The bikeshop.com indicator pins are inexpensive, so I'll probably order one of each.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c4438edba4.jpg |
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Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20940820)
To me, this is an exciting project. Rare to find these pre 1955 frames especially in 23". The mudguards and chainguard look solid. These aren't the original wheels. This bike would have originally had Raleigh pattern rims, 32H front and 40H rear. So you could build new wheels using CR-18 alloy rims without destroying an original feature. Other parts like the headset, handlebar, brake levers can be replaced with later parts in better condition. You are also missing the original Heron headlamp bracket. This would be harder to find because the original would have been the "skinny neck" variety. This looks to be an original Sturmey Archer headlamp, but I've never seen this style of mount before. Here's a picture of this lamp on my 1951 Rudge.
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Originally Posted by horatio
(Post 20939798)
Just got this rusty Raleigh Sport, my first 3-speed. It's going to be a challenging project, to say the least. It has a three-cog freewheel on the 3-speed IGH. The gear indicator/chain pull is missing from the hub, so I won't be able to use it until I get new a part. Anyone know what kind of hub I might have here? It's labelled Sturmey Archer AW. If you were to try to restore the bike 100% it would be a lot of work. But cleaning lubing etc so it shifts/rides like it should, probably not a tremendous commitment and it will be very rewarding. |
Originally Posted by horatio
(Post 20940850)
Thanks! And here I was thinking I bought a junker! This is all new territory to me. I didn't think the wheels were originals. They are steel rims, but not terribly heavy. The fenders and chainguard are in decent shape, but there's a good bit of surface rust on the underside of the fenders. Well, maybe it's just mud. Won't know for sure until I remove and clean everything.
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
(Post 20941153)
Take pictures of everything before disassembly. Never know how foggy the memories become, or is that just me?
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Originally Posted by ryansu
(Post 20939953)
I realized a long time ago I wasn't fast enough or thin enough to pull off Carbon or lycra although I did try real hard for about 5 years, now I ride old steel at a leisurely pace in jeans or shorts, oh the indignity of being passed by a dude in jeans on a vintage 3 speed while kitted out and astride your multi thousand $$ US Postal replica Trek (hee hee) :lol:
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Originally Posted by gster
(Post 20940145)
Not British.
Japanese.... Shimano 333 Nice racks though.... https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...40e7131dcf.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...62726d108e.jpg |
Originally Posted by horatio
(Post 20940850)
Thanks! And here I was thinking I bought a junker! This is all new territory to me. I didn't think the wheels were originals. They are steel rims, but not terribly heavy. The fenders and chainguard are in decent shape, but there's a good bit of surface rust on the underside of the fenders. Well, maybe it's just mud. Won't know for sure until I remove and clean everything.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f55e27b456.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fe92836a96.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a8ab40bcb6.jpg |
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