Dutch Azor Bike - Order and Bike Review
This is sort of a Jack-Of-All-Trades bike so I decided to post it here vs Commuting or Utility:
For years I used an old AMF Hercules 3 speed for a utility, errand bike for picking up stuff and such around town. It was also too small and about a year or so ago I replaced it with a weird Mars Trekking bike for the same purpose as well as some light gravel riding. Well the Mars was a pain to mount when the milk crate on the rear rack was loaded with groceries and such. Tall top tube, heft of the bike, flopping around when loaded and you leaned it over to get on, etc. So I did some research and decided a Dutch style bike was just what I needed. A little more research showed Azor to be pretty much the best buy these days for an authentic bike built to last generations. So, I went online and used Azor's bike configurator to build a bike to the specs I wanted. Process was simple and the configurator even gave you a warning if you were selecting incompatible parts. Once I had it sorted out the build specs were sent to the U.S. distributor, Amsterdam Bicycle Company, to confirm and complete the order. Steven there was very helpful with things and provided great customer support through the process. He provided in-depth details of the whole buying and building process as well as shipping. Told me it would take around 10 weeks for the bike to be built and shipped but in actuality it was closer to 8 weeks. They have a set rate of $99 to ship the bike normally. This was the only hiccup. The FEDEX service they normally use was suspended by COVID issues. This came up about a week before the bike shipped and was validated by a check with FEDEX. I should note that the Fedex service was going to be about a 10-14 day shipment. Amsterdam offered to send it via a more expensive carrier called TNT via 4-5 day shipping. They offered to split the increased cost with me. The other option was to wait until Fedex started that original shipping method again. I opted for the TNT option since the split cost wasn't that much more. No in fairness, TNT's tracking totally sucked. The morning of the actual arrival date it showed as all the way across the country from me. But Steven had been keeping an eye on the bike and emailed me to let me know it was actually on the truck for delivery. So I was able to be home and sign for it on the first delivery attempt. Bike was extremely well packed and came mostly assembled. Amsterdam had also emailed me the shop and owner's manuals on all the components when they notified me the bike was shipping. Everything was firmy secured in the box with the few accessories in another box and inside yet their original boxes. To assemble I had to mount the front fender and wheel, Attach the front brake cable, mount the front light and plug both lights into the dynamo hub, insert the stem/handle bar assemble, insert the seatpost/saddle, and then put on the pedals. Took me maybe 20-30 minutes to get it out of the box, together, and out for a test ride. Everything seemed well lubed but I did open both the headset and the front hub to make sure before I put it together. Unlike the Pashley I bought earlier this year that needed a lot of tuning out of the box, the Azor was spot on. It was quite apparent they had built it up fully and tuned it in before taking parts off to pack and ship it. The even sent a vinyl, zippered pouch the size of a money back with the tools you needed to put it together. Also had a Dunlop to Schrader valve adaptor in the bag, nice touch! Now the bike...... I went with a step through frame that was basically their Ameland - Ladies models. Wanted it to be easy to mount when loaded. Built with a Shimano Nexus 8 speed IGH with upgraded roller brakes front and back. Full fenders, heavy duty racks front and rear, dynamo front hub, lights that run off the hub, dress guard on the rear wheel, full chainguard, built in wheel lock with an accessory chain that plugs into the lock, front wheel stabilizer, nice fat 28" x 50 tires, matching sprung Brooks Saddle and handlebar grips, and a heavy duty, two-pronged kickstand to keep the bike stable while being loaded. I decided on a British Racing Green type color with brown leather cockpit and those cream colored wheels. The bike configurator allows you to pick custom colors for the frame, rack, fenders, chainguard, etc. Took me awhile to decide on the color and look of the bike. They use a very durable 3-stage powder coat process on all the painted parts that has a reputation for being very durable and rust proof. The hardware and shiny bits are stainless steel to keep them lasting through decades of weather abuse also. I went with an aluminum frame but could have gotten the exact same thing in steel. The bike is beautifully made and arrived with no damage at all. The pictures below do not give justice to the rich gloss of the finish on the frame. Oh, this is no lightweight racing bike. This is one heavy old beast for sure but you don't feel the weight when you ride it. All components worked flawlessly out of the box. The riding experience is quite different from my road bikes or even the 3-speed Guv'nor Path Racer. You sit upright, chill out, and enjoy the ride. The 8-speed IGH seems to have a decent range of gears that are not too widely spaced. The bike rolls very well and it quite comfortable. I am using different muscles from normal and can tell. It's pretty much a silent ride too, a little tire/drive chain noise but no rattles, squeaks, or creaks from the frame just a luxurious ride. My aluminum front rack is rated for at least 33 lbs, if you opt for the steel one it carries 55 lbs. This rack is mounted to the frame vs the front wheel so it does not effect handling of the bike when loaded. It is also easily installed or removed since it fits into special frame mounted brackets to accommodate this. The rear rack's capacity is at least 88 lbs. They have some options that can carry more. Anyway, enough coffee induced ranting on, here's some pictures of the bike. I had a plastic milk crate on the front rack now for carrying stuff. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...16527d64ff.jpg I'm digging the color scheme. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...515c052990.jpg Handgrips are really comfortable https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9ff2aa2251.jpg Aged Brooks Saddle https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8fde45c710.jpg This is the built in lock. It retains the key until to put it into a locked condition. That port in the side accepts the accessory cloth covered chain. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...340dc127f9.jpg Nice metal badging and full chainguard https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8ec06b2d67.jpg I went with a more sublet, old school looking decal set. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b2c8e0b08f.jpg Heavy duty rear rack with built in bungee cords https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7c13f4496a.jpg Rear light powered off the front hub. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8ecbf3a218.jpg The other side of the lock and you can see the dress guard better. This will see winter use by me and should keep me dry in the wet stuff. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f0412e0691.jpg Hmmm... I need to translate that but I think it's talking about being impact resistant. |
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Nice Headbadge https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...36f52cba8e.jpg Front light https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...968234e7ba.jpg Upgraded rollerbrake https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6a933633bf.jpg Upgraded rollerbrake and beefy rear rack supports https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ee116c8a04.jpg All business front ent https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0e25be7bae.jpg Ready to carry a lot of stuff. Good kickstand https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...acedb56c19.jpg Straps seem strong but stretch a good ways https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...91f26ba3df.jpg Shimano reliability https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...21a84420db.jpg 8-speed IGH https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...80d574a1b2.jpg Gotta have the bell. |
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Fat, comfy tires on beefy rims https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3f2707b6e1.jpg Dynamo hub https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...643364f3eb.jpg This is how that front rack mounts https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4e480094bd.jpg The cockpit. |
Looks good! I’d like to have something like that in the stable!
I’ve ridden Dutch bikes— I took a 30 mile round trip on one out of Amsterdam to Zaanse Schans once— and it takes some getting used to riding bolt upright, especially in a head wind, but there are some trips I make which would be ideal for such a machine. Enjoy it! |
I mean, with the brand name and the dynamo/headlight, you've just gotta name this bike Lightbringer, amiright? :innocent:
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Took this out for a longer ride today just to see what it was like to do more miles than what it was bought for. So I took it out on the 11 mile evening route I normally do on the Guv'nor. Picked tonight as it was hot but not blazing hot. Also the legs were tired from a 52 mile ride earlier and on top of that a front was moving in with a bunch of wind. So a good test at it's worse, LOL! The route has a short but steep little hill I go over twice. Even on the return leg going up the steeper side into the head wind I had enough gear to go up no real problem. Obviously it's not fast but it is smooth riding and comfortable. Sometime this week I'll load it down pretty good and see how it handles then.
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Very nice bike. It has everything you need and then some.
Thanks for sharing.' |
Originally Posted by jamesdak
(Post 22129403)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f0412e0691.jpg Hmmm... I need to translate that but I think it's talking about being impact resistant. It's a bit old school, boasting about rust proofing was about the main marketing message of the 30's and 50's Dutch bikes. |
May I suggest a membership in AAA? Gonna need it when you get a flat out on the road. Been there done that.
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero
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May I suggest a membership in AAA? Gonna need it when you get a flat out on the road. Been there done that.
Of course that said, this is just the utility bike for me these days. Never more than around 3 miles from the house. So I'd probably just walk it back. I do keep saying I need to put some sealant in the tires of both this one and the Guv'nor but haven't done it. Heck I see maybe one flat every 4-5 thousand miles or riding. Been carrying AAA since my Miata days with not spare but last time I checked Utah AAA is of no help with a bike. :cry: |
Very nice. Might I respectfully suggest that you lose the plastic milk crate ASAP and get a proper basket! Here is mine on a Dutch rack called a Britch. Let's see if I can find the source. Cheers.
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
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LOL, why? Front's simple to remove to fix and the rear only seems complicated.
Of course that said, this is just the utility bike for me these days. Never more than around 3 miles from the house. So I'd probably just walk it back. I do keep saying I need to put some sealant in the tires of both this one and the Guv'nor but haven't done it. Heck I see maybe one flat every 4-5 thousand miles or riding. Been carrying AAA since my Miata days with not spare but last time I checked Utah AAA is of no help with a bike. :cry: |
Originally Posted by Stadjer
(Post 22133136)
It's not complicated to patch the rear. Just take the tube out and not the wheel, and take a bit of care it doesn't get stuck on sharp edges when you pull it around to get to the leak. Changing the rear tube or tyre is a bit more work. I don't know these new chaincases, but I'm sure it 's improved on the ones I have to deal with on my vintage bikes. We have chainstasy spreaders here to avoid all that and pull new tyres and tube between the axle and the frame, but that damages aluminium frames. The chaincases were a bit of a pain but mainly because people tried to get them on again neatly after pulling them off indifferently, the trick is to get them off very neatly so nothing gets folded or bent, also not when it's left hanging from the cranck when the wheel is pulled out or put back in. The first time it might be a good idea to be in a patient mood and think twice about every move though. Count the naked threads on both chain tensioners before unscrewing and you know the starting point for final adjustment when the wheel is back in.
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Just to update on this after half a years use. Bike is amazingly useful and versatile. I have flatted the rear but just put in some sealent and it's been fine for months like that. These lights are not that powerful per their stats yet have given more than ample lighting for nighttime rides down to the store and such.
Oh and still running the plastic milk crate. I mean it get's the job done so why not. Don't even like the looks of the metal ones. Now if I find a wooden crate I like that may go on this. No mechanical issues at all. Only minor regret is not putting the Marathon tires on this. I'm realizing now just how much broken glass and other crap winds up on the bike path here. I don't encounter that with all my road bikes that I ride on the roads. The built in wheel lock is awesome. I don't really live in an area where you worry that much about bike theft but being able to pull up by the local store entrance, hop off, lock the wheel, and then stroll into the store is sweet. I think I've only used the accessory chain for the lock once. And it's a real live hefty chain, not some flimsy cable or such. |
Originally Posted by jamesdak
(Post 22382742)
Just to update on this after half a years use. Bike is amazingly useful and versatile. I have flatted the rear but just put in some sealent and it's been fine for months like that. These lights are not that powerful per their stats yet have given more than ample lighting for nighttime rides down to the store and such.
Oh and still running the plastic milk crate. I mean it get's the job done so why not. Don't even like the looks of the metal ones. Now if I find a wooden crate I like that may go on this. No mechanical issues at all. Only minor regret is not putting the Marathon tires on this. I'm realizing now just how much broken glass and other crap winds up on the bike path here. I don't encounter that with all my road bikes that I ride on the roads. The built in wheel lock is awesome. I don't really live in an area where you worry that much about bike theft but being able to pull up by the local store entrance, hop off, lock the wheel, and then stroll into the store is sweet. I think I've only used the accessory chain for the lock once. And it's a real live hefty chain, not some flimsy cable or such. https://www.sierra.com/s~metal-basket/ https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6e1ee9a998.jpg After running some errands, a bag of groceries and stopping at the library. |
Just thought I'd update a bit more on this one. The bike is still chugging along with no problems at all. Had to finally dial in the shifting a tad last year but otherwise that's been the only mechanical thing. I also flatted last year from a goathead. Put some sealant in, re-inflated, spun the tire, and rode on. No issues since.
We're totally socked in with snow here still and there's no place to really ride safely for any real distance. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4bac47f29c.jpg But I've been able to get this out on the wet neighborhood roads the past couple of days to do some laps. Not a speck of water has touched me, the fender setup and all on this works so well. Oh and the finish on this is still as good as the day it was delivered. Seems just as durable as Azor claimed it would be. |
That's a real beauty! Nice to have something so useful look that good, too. I don't even think the milk crate looks that bad; it means business, so it fits.
You mentioned generations of use ... I spent some time looking at some Dutch-made bikes a while ago (forget the brand) and that's just the way they do them over there; people park them outdoors all year round exposed to the weather and it doesn't phase them. Of course, a lot of Europeans buy a bike like this instead of a car: it's a practical long-term investment. Great choice; you'll enjoy it for years to come. |
BTW, I finally found the brand I'd been looking at before:
workcycles.com Their frames are mostly a sort of crank-forward, low stepover one-size-fits-all. They have a proprietary feature called the "Escape Hatch" on some models, which makes it possible to do rear tire changes more easily. Not traditional-looking at all, but built for service. |
Thank you so much for sharing this detailed review and excellent pictures of your bicycle. I've had my eye on Azor for a while and seriously considering purchasing one but one thing that their website doesn't indicate is the total weight of the bike. How much would you say your Azor Ameland weighs on its own? Also, do you think the 50mm wide tires are a good width, or maybe too wide? I like the idea of the 50mm width for extra cushioning but am wondering how much rolling resistance they have compared to something like a 47mm that the Azor Amsterdam model comes with.
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Originally Posted by az_fietser
(Post 22904914)
Thank you so much for sharing this detailed review and excellent pictures of your bicycle. I've had my eye on Azor for a while and seriously considering purchasing one but one thing that their website doesn't indicate is the total weight of the bike. How much would you say your Azor Ameland weighs on its own? Also, do you think the 50mm wide tires are a good width, or maybe too wide? I like the idea of the 50mm width for extra cushioning but am wondering how much rolling resistance they have compared to something like a 47mm that the Azor Amsterdam model comes with.
I've no complaint's about the tire width. This bike is not about speed or anything to me. Just comfort, carrying stuff, and getting from point A to point B. It also served me well recently as I worked to recover from a total knee replacement . It was the first bike I could get on and was the one I used for a week or so to get the knee loosened back up enough to allow me to get back on the real road bikes. |
Originally Posted by az_fietser
(Post 22904914)
Thank you so much for sharing this detailed review and excellent pictures of your bicycle. I've had my eye on Azor for a while and seriously considering purchasing one but one thing that their website doesn't indicate is the total weight of the bike. How much would you say your Azor Ameland weighs on its own? Also, do you think the 50mm wide tires are a good width, or maybe too wide? I like the idea of the 50mm width for extra cushioning but am wondering how much rolling resistance they have compared to something like a 47mm that the Azor Amsterdam model comes with.
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Very nice bike and love the color too:thumb:Alfine is an extremely reliable and precise transmission
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Originally Posted by georges1
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Very nice bike and love the color too:thumb:Alfine is an extremely reliable and precise transmission
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Originally Posted by az_fietser
(Post 22904914)
Thank you so much for sharing this detailed review and excellent pictures of your bicycle. I've had my eye on Azor for a while and seriously considering purchasing one but one thing that their website doesn't indicate is the total weight of the bike. How much would you say your Azor Ameland weighs on its own? Also, do you think the 50mm wide tires are a good width, or maybe too wide? I like the idea of the 50mm width for extra cushioning but am wondering how much rolling resistance they have compared to something like a 47mm that the Azor Amsterdam model comes with.
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