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carleton 12-13-19 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Poppit (Post 21244302)
3 up sprint tactics

https://youtu.be/U-nxhcucB2Q

This video actually illustrates the same technique that I simply describe as: Fight hard as hell for the #2 spot. That's the best spot.

If you are #1 , then you are fighting the wind by yourself.
If you are #3 , then you have a draft, but you have to pass two people to win.
If you are #2 , then you have the benefit of a draft and only have to pass 1 person to win.

KrispyK 12-13-19 06:21 PM

Shimano released some track shoes called the RC901T. They look like a modification of their top end RC901 road shoe but with one boa dial instead of two. They look interesting and aren't too terribly priced.

I would link but i'm not allowed to.

Clythio 12-14-19 07:13 PM

New equipments
 
https://www.velobike.co.nz/blog//new-tech

shoe covers??!! 🤔

Morelock 12-14-19 09:15 PM

shoe covers are legal (again)

Clythio 12-14-19 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Morelock (Post 21245592)
shoe covers are legal (again)

We didn't need this return.. one more thing to deal with, and in this case (over the strap) even dangerous.

taras0000 12-15-19 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by KrispyK (Post 21244604)
Shimano released some track shoes called the RC901T. They look like a modification of their top end RC901 road shoe but with one boa dial instead of two. They look interesting and aren't too terribly priced.

I would link but i'm not allowed to.

https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/produ...SH-RC901T.html

They should have left off the strap near the toe. Any trackie using straps won't touch them, and any trackie not using straps will just grab the regular road model.

Minion1 12-15-19 09:13 PM

Anecdotal, but I've never been impressed with the hold on the foot that shoes with a single boa have.

700wheel 12-16-19 01:37 AM

Day 3 of World Cup from Brisbane.
Multi rider crash during Women's Omnium Scratch Race - one rider rode the fence but still crashed.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9235b7f3cf.jpg

topflightpro 12-16-19 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Minion1 (Post 21246576)
Anecdotal, but I've never been impressed with the hold on the foot that shoes with a single boa have.

I've never been terribly impressed with the hold that BOAs offer, in general - one dial or two.

I'm honestly not sure what makes those Shimano shoes better than regular S-phyres for the track.

carleton 12-16-19 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 21246837)
I've never been terribly impressed with the hold that BOAs offer, in general - one dial or two.

I'm honestly not sure what makes those Shimano shoes better than regular S-phyres for the track.

I agree. I think they are neat, but that's about it.

I mean, I get it. Being able to micro-adjust your shoes when on a long road ride with the turn of the wheel is nice as your feet swell. But, that's not gonna happen on the track for several reasons. So, the main benefit of BOA shoes is simply lost on trackies.

gycho77 12-16-19 01:47 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5a0f794cef.png
Maybe new Mavic trispoke, but it looks like Mavic 3GS.

carleton 12-18-19 04:43 AM

https://i.imgur.com/voEYfjI.jpg

FYI, you can find metric Allen screws at local hardware stores: https://www.lowes.com/pl/Machine-scr...ent=4294710182

The type of screws that are used in stems, seat post clamps, and other odds and ends on the bike.

So, if your screws are stripped or simply looking shabby after lots of use, you may be able to find what you need at the local hardware store. Take one of the ones you intend to replace into the store with you to make sure you get the right size and thread pitch. Look for what you need in the Metric area (most bike screws, nuts, and bolts are Metric).

Morelock 12-18-19 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 21249635)
https://i.imgur.com/voEYfjI.jpg

FYI, you can find metric Allen screws at local hardware stores: https://www.lowes.com/pl/Machine-scr...ent=4294710182

The type of screws that are used in stems, seat post clamps, and other odds and ends on the bike.

So, if your screws are stripped or simply looking shabby after lots of use, you may be able to find what you need at the local hardware store. Take one of the ones you intend to replace into the store with you to make sure you get the right size and thread pitch. Look for what you need in the Metric area (most bike screws, nuts, and bolts are Metric).

http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/20140...48_eiichbc.jpg

Baby Puke 12-18-19 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Minion1 (Post 21246576)
Anecdotal, but I've never been impressed with the hold on the foot that shoes with a single boa have.

Agreed. I just don't see a substitute for old fashioned laces.

carpediemracing 12-18-19 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 21249635)
https://i.imgur.com/voEYfjI.jpg

FYI, you can find metric Allen screws at local hardware stores: https://www.lowes.com/pl/Machine-scr...ent=4294710182

The type of screws that are used in stems, seat post clamps, and other odds and ends on the bike.

So, if your screws are stripped or simply looking shabby after lots of use, you may be able to find what you need at the local hardware store. Take one of the ones you intend to replace into the store with you to make sure you get the right size and thread pitch. Look for what you need in the Metric area (most bike screws, nuts, and bolts are Metric).

I'd go one step further, as someone that worked in a True Value and spent time organizing and stocking those little drawers of nuts and bolts. The little drawers of nuts and bolts should be much higher quality stuff than the stuff you find in the big box stores (unless the store owner is filling them with the wrong stuff). It's super high quality, US made, very good stuff. I buy pretty much all my regular nuts and bolts (water bottle bolts, turbo bolts for the car, etc) from the bins. You can get stainless (I do), most bolts come in various lengths, and the quality is excellent.

Some of the mass packed stuff, and a lot of the stuff in big box stores, is much lower quality. Sometimes that's okay - I use mass packed stainless sheet metal screws for downspouts, various projects around the house, etc). But for quality, machine threads, you can screw up something really expensive or really difficult to fix (a frame, a shifter, a derailleur) with bad threads and it's not worth saving 30 cents or whatever. I've literally tossed a new box of bolts into metal recycling because they were so bad.

KrispyK 12-22-19 07:11 PM

What shoes would yall recommend for track? I am looking around for a new pair as my specialized Torch 2.0's I am not able to get my shoes tight as I would like for sprints(toe box loose and mid foot tight enough). I was looking at those new Shimano shoes and some lace up shoes such as the Giro Empires, Lake CX1's and Bonts's after browsing the forum. Are lace ups the way to go for sprinting?

AmahlAmahlAmahl 12-22-19 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by KrispyK (Post 21255059)
What shoes would yall recommend for track? I am looking around for a new pair as my specialized Torch 2.0's I am not able to get my shoes tight as I would like for sprints(toe box loose and mid foot tight enough). I was looking at those new Shimano shoes and some lace up shoes such as the Giro Empires, Lake CX1's and Bonts's after browsing the forum. Are lace ups the way to go for sprinting?

I had those exactly same shoes. I switch to the BONT Vaypor T shoes and haven't look back. All the sprinters I've met use either these, custom BONT Zero shoes (laces, no BOA), or custom made Sierra shoes. It took me a week or two for my foot to get use to them. I think I've seen Nicholas Paul wearing the Classic Vaypor model at TTOWN (cheapest version of the Vaypor).

Baby Puke 12-22-19 09:11 PM

I'm loving the Lake lace up carbon shoes, come in wide sizes and about 50% the price of Bont's. The wide size was a game changer for me. All personal preference, of course.

ruudlaff 12-23-19 02:35 AM

I wanted to fit Bonts, but had to give up eventually.

Switched to Fizik R1 PowerStraps.

They were a limited version made for the movistar guys, but straps made from the same material as sprinting straps and a top level carbon sole was hard to argue with.

topflightpro 12-23-19 06:22 AM

The Lake CX1s are good. I had to replace the laces - I went with waxed hockey skate laces, which are much stronger. Probably the best bang for the buck option.

carleton 12-23-19 01:18 PM

I want to take this opportunity to remind newer users that they can convert their favorite velcro shoes to lace-ups by having a cobbler cut the straps and punch lace holes or doing it yourself.

Over the years, I've converted 3 pairs of shoes to lace-ups (1 pair of Sidi and 2 pair of Fizik). All 3 had the same configuration: 1 ratcheting strap and 2 velcro straps. I kept the ratcheting strap.

There might be pics in the DIY thread, but I don't have time to look now.

This could be a nice winter project for some...especially if you have some old cycling shoes around.

My absolute favorite track shoes were created this way: 1st generation Fizik R1 (ostrich skin):

http://bikerumor.com/wp-content/uplo...cling-shoe.jpg

carleton 12-23-19 01:28 PM

Took a quick snap:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4199d59365.png

I've had these since, what? 2011? They haven't stretched a millimeter.

The Sidi Genius 5 I had became floppy like old gym socks after half a season. Comfy for casual riding. Sucked for performance riding.

Morelock 12-23-19 01:41 PM

Yep, I generally scour ebay for old rough/damaged Bont's, then chop them up and lace them. So long as the sole is in (relatively) good shape you can fix/modify most uppers. I've got a pair of old Bont Vaypor's I cut the straps off of (like Carletons Fiziks) then laced and painted. $40 pair of Vaypor T's basically.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...24&oe=5EAEAE1A

Baby Puke 12-23-19 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 21255465)
The Lake CX1s are good. I had to replace the laces - I went with waxed hockey skate laces, which are much stronger. Probably the best bang for the buck option.

Indeed, the laces don't hold up. I replaced with some stiff nylon ones, done. Otherwise best shoes I've ever had. These Lakes are being marketed as "retro" and maybe "touring oriented", but the uppers are so stiff that I don't think they'd actually be good for that purpose. Great track shoes.

Clythio 12-23-19 07:06 PM

I'm on Sidi Kaos - two points tight Boa lace for the front part (I hate feeling it loose) and the good and old buckled serrated large strap.
They use a "pierced" material that stretched and laced with use for some colors combination, but there is also this more "continuous" and firm material.
Tried the Bont Vaypor but it simply doesn't fit my feet shape. Too large on front part, never feel it tight enough. Middle finger touching the front curve.. etc. Maybe with some heating/molding - didn't try.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6100d945f8.jpg


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