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seedsbelize2 01-20-22 04:23 AM

Slow morning. Everybody must be sleeping in

datlas 01-20-22 04:59 AM

Weather trying to decide if it’s rain or snow. Looks like a mix of both.

MoAlpha 01-20-22 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22380400)
Yikes. Where at?

Seattle area.

indyfabz 01-20-22 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22380615)
Weather trying to decide if itís rain or snow. Looks like a mix of both.

Rain in the city. Missed the local news so I donít know if itís still supposed to change to snow, but itís going to get frigid tonight. AM windchill of 4 tomorrow.

Velo Vol 01-20-22 07:01 AM

Good morning mvnsnd

Trsnrtr 01-20-22 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22380328)
You know what you need? 1 hour and 38 minutes of talking heads :)

https://youtu.be/53dikqNZLgA

Love me some classic TH. :thumb:

Velo Vol 01-20-22 07:08 AM

It's snowing. :rolleyes:

Trsnrtr 01-20-22 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22380615)
Weather trying to decide if itís rain or snow. Looks like a mix of both.

Our wind chill temps won't get above 0ļF today and actual temp below zero tonight.

I don't know how are resident Minnesotan and Michigander s handle it.

datlas 01-20-22 07:58 AM

Regarding COVID19 data:

Incidence/cases have clearly peaked in some areas (like the NE), It is probably peaking this week in other areas. Hospital use lags about 1 week behind cases, and deaths likely more like 2 week lag.

That said, I am optimistic that the covid situation in most areas of the usa will be much better by early to mid February. Where it goes from there is anybody's guess.

Velo Vol 01-20-22 08:05 AM

I hope you're happy, rjones28


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MoAlpha 01-20-22 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22380724)
Regarding COVID19 data:

Incidence/cases have clearly peaked in some areas (like the NE), It is probably peaking this week in other areas. Hospital use lags about 1 week behind cases, and deaths likely more like 2 week lag.

That said, I am optimistic that the covid situation in most areas of the usa will be much better by early to mid February. Where it goes from there is anybody's guess.

Exactly, especially since we seem to be leaving our fate to the whims of genetic drift, rather than strengthening our defenses.

Velo Vol 01-20-22 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22380743)
Exactly, especially since we seem to be leaving our fate to the whims of genetic drift, rather than strengthening our defenses.

Strengthen what defense?

Velo Vol 01-20-22 08:15 AM

I'm putting one of these signs up.


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mvnsnd 01-20-22 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22380681)
Good morning mvnsnd

Guten Morgen! <- about the limit of my German

Mojo31 01-20-22 08:26 AM

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indyfabz 01-20-22 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 22380461)
Iíve found it tedious.

I may have it on my Kindle. I bought something a while back that might be it but then ended up reading Looking for Mr. Goodbar instead. Recently finished that. Before I did, it was an answer on Jeopardy!

I read some reviews that said the same thing about Lincoln Highway Companion.

I am thinking of re-reading Catch-22. I read it way back in 2000 when I started my long tour from Seattle to Cortez, CO. I can still envision when I busted out laughing at a campground in Rexford, MT when I got to the end. A couple of people looked over at me like "What is his deal?" Definitely one of my favorite reads ever.

LAJ 01-20-22 08:33 AM

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MoAlpha 01-20-22 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22380746)
Strengthen what defense?

Why the hell, for instance, canít people get non-counterfeit masks, testing free and on demand without a long wait, adequate ventilation and filtration in schools and public places, and public health agencies that can speak and act openly and effectively? What are we, Russia?

LAJ 01-20-22 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22380774)
Why the hell, for instance, canít people get non-counterfeit masks, testing free and on demand without a long wait, adequate ventilation and filtration in schools and public places, and public health agencies that can speak and act openly and effectively? What are we, Russia?

I ordered my free tests. I expect they'll be here by the time our peak in on the downward trend. I have them for next variant, at least.

Trsnrtr 01-20-22 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22380772)
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BillyD 01-20-22 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 22380688)
Our wind chill temps won't get above 0ļF today and actual temp below zero tonight.

I don't know how are resident Minnesotan and Michigander s handle it.


Mojo31 01-20-22 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22380774)
Why the hell, for instance, canít people get non-counterfeit masks, testing free and on demand without a long wait, adequate ventilation and filtration in schools and public places, and public health agencies that can speak and act openly and effectively? What are we, Russia?

A big part of this issue is that most buildings were built before the advent of things like HEPA filters. Also, having operable windows are usually less efficient as automated HVAC systems that are designed to operate efficiently from an energy consumption point of view will "fight" with the open window/doors unless the HVAC system and operable windows are designed and manufactured to work together (new stuff that is spendy). And, in schools and public buildings, operable windows present a security risk.

As for the public health agencies, the current environment baffles me. It's really sad that there is so much lack of trust in those agencies.

MoAlpha 01-20-22 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22380780)
I ordered my free tests. I expect they'll be here by the time our peak in on the downward trend. I have them for next variant, at least.

We did too and fine. Most of us will need them. The issue is the lack of coordinated effort. For instance, you test positive and isolate, but who is gathering the data for your community and helping you and your neighbors to use the info to make the decisions which reduce or balance risk across the society? Public health policy is not something we can push to the individual level and hope to open schools safely.

Velo Vol 01-20-22 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22380774)
Why the hell, for instance, canít people get non-counterfeit masks, testing free and on demand without a long wait, adequate ventilation and filtration in schools and public places, and public health agencies that can speak and act openly and effectively? What are we, Russia?

That stuff costs money?

It would be progress if we got 80%+ of the population to merely internalize that the virus is bad and should be avoided.

MoAlpha 01-20-22 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22380793)
A big part of this issue is that most buildings were built before the advent of things like HEPA filters. Also, having operable windows are usually less efficient as automated HVAC systems that are designed to operate efficiently from an energy consumption point of view will "fight" with the open window/doors unless the HVAC system and operable windows are designed and manufactured to work together (new stuff that is spendy). And, in schools and public buildings, operable windows present a security risk.

As for the public health agencies, the current environment baffles me. It's really sad that there is so much lack of trust in those agencies.

A HEPA filter is a disposable device which can be fitted to any air handling system and it doesn’t even have to be HEPA. MERV grades still help a lot and you can make an effective air cleaning device out of a box van and a filter.

I completely understand the lack of popularity trust in the agencies, especially the CDC, whose comms have been simply textbook bad.

MoAlpha 01-20-22 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22380804)
That stuff costs money?

It would be progress if we got 80%+ of the population to merely internalize that the virus is bad and should be avoided.

Less money than we are losing in economic damage and healthcare outlays.

Velo Vol 01-20-22 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 22380688)
I don't know how are resident Minnesotan and Michigander s handle it.

What about our resident Tennessean? How does he handle it?

HTFU, that's how.

Mojo31 01-20-22 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22380810)
A HEPA filter is a disposable device which can be fitted to any air handling system and it doesnít even have to be HEPA. MERV grades still help a lot and you can make an effective air cleaning device out of a box van and a filter.

I completely understand the lack of popularity trust in the agencies, especially the CDC, whose comms have been simply textbook bad.

That may help on a residential level, but is not going to get you far in a large public building. Schools, courthouses, public office buildings, and the like would require substantial and very expensive retrofitting to get you very far.

indyfabz 01-20-22 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22380772)
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Good job. I have yet to do better than 4 in the 4 games I have played.

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LAJ 01-20-22 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22380810)
A HEPA filter is a disposable device which can be fitted to any air handling system and it doesnít even have to be HEPA. MERV grades still help a lot and you can make an effective air cleaning device out of a box van and a filter.

I completely understand the lack of popularity trust in the agencies, especially the CDC, whose comms have been simply textbook bad.

The cubic money thrown at the schools in regard to addressing this, is astounding. Accountability is non-existent, and no one cares.

The head of the CDC has been on my hit list from the beginning. I'm certain I've mentioned that in another life.

The big swing.... You can go back to work in 5 days. The message there became very clear.


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