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PalmettoUpstate 07-06-12 09:07 AM

Best 3-speed thread; tx 65'er.

Does anyone know where there's someone with a hoard of old SA & Cateye rear reflectors? I have found the former on the big auction website but the sellers sure think a lot of them...

Of course, supply and demand, and that [$25 or so each] may be the going rate...

PalmettoUpstate 07-06-12 10:04 AM

Hey I was looking to keep my Raleigh LTD-3 all original but the OEM handgrips beat me up on long rides so I asked around and the good folks at Niagara found me these: http://www.oldbikebarn.com/Grab-On-Grip-Covers-5

If the URL doesn't take you there then search: OLD BIKE BARN GRIP-ON COVERS.

HercRider 07-06-12 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 14444736)
PIC - [of the blue Sports and more - our "living room" bikes -ha-ha!]
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5340652...in/photostream

Wow, that Sport looks pristine! Very nice score.

PalmettoUpstate 07-06-12 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by HercRider (Post 14447857)
Wow, that Sport looks pristine! Very nice score.

Hope to have better pics up soon; yes it's a really nice one - much nicer than our other two Raleighs but they're pretty decent too.

The blue one you see in that pic has an almost new B-72 on it and I'm gonna put that saddle on the black LTD-3 you see behind it and I just ordered a honey B-66S for the blue bike. [my wife likes shorter-nosed saddles]

BTW, these people are closing out their Brooks saddles but check out the prices and grab 'em while you can!: http://www.permaco.com/

Mexican Street Dog 07-06-12 07:36 PM

Really good to know about good cotters and bad cotters, thanks. I just got a '67 Superbe and am cleaning it up. I didn't know that you should replace both cotters at the same time, they're cheap, nor did I know about the better quality ones.

Thanks guys.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...l/Superbe1.jpg

I just went and looked at the Grade D cotters at Bikesmith, wow! That's what I would have gotten if I didn't know better.
Thanks again.

PalmettoUpstate 07-07-12 03:20 PM

Nice bike MSD, is that the original saddle, a Brooks B-72 by chance?

gster 07-08-12 08:19 AM

4 Attachment(s)
Some photos of my "new" 1972 Raleigh Superbe. This one came with a key. The period saddle bags are an add on. I'm also promoting the Vintage Bicycle Show here in Toronto.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=260365http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=260366http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=260367http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=260368

markk900 07-08-12 08:45 AM

gster: love those bags - so elegant. Sorry I won't be able to make the show - would love to attend but that weekend is already booked.....

wahoonc 07-08-12 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 14453708)
Some photos of my "new" 1972 Raleigh Superbe. This one came with a key. The period saddle bags are an add on. I'm also promoting the Vintage Bicycle Show here in Toronto.

Just an FYI the dyno hub is on the wrong side for that year of bike. It should be on the right hand side. I am not sure if it really makes a difference or not. On the older hubs there are no lock nuts so they will run the cones down tight and bind the bearings.

Nice looking bike and my size too ;)

Aaron :)

PalmettoUpstate 07-08-12 11:08 AM

Re: Post #267, on pg. 11 or thereabout on this thread...

Did something like the Dimension cork grips that Maddox references come as an "option" on Raleighs?

[I have a '75 LTD-3 and love it - a nearly perfect 40-year-old B-72 is on the way for him - but the OEM grips are really hard on the hands on long and/or spirited rides]

Also, did Maddox "treat" the grips on his red LTD-3 with something and if so, what's best.

Thanks to all!

Schwinnsta 07-08-12 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 14454111)
Re: Post #267, on pg. 11 or thereabout on this thread...

Did something like the Dimension cork grips that Maddox references come as an "option" on Raleighs?

[I have a '75 LTD-3 and love it - a nearly perfect 40-year-old B-72 is on the way for him - but the OEM grips are really hard on the hands on long and/or spirited rides]

Also, did Maddox "treat" the grips on his red LTD-3 with something and if so, what's best.

OEM grips would be DARE as seen most photos. The cork grips look to have been given a coating(s) of amber shellac. You can get shellac, ready mixed at most hardware store and its hard to mess up application.

PalmettoUpstate 07-08-12 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Schwinnsta (Post 14454607)
OEM grips would be DARE as seen most photos.

So you're saying that yes, a Raleigh could have come outfitted with DARE cork grips? [sorry to be obtuse]

PalmettoUpstate 07-08-12 06:45 PM

Is this a Brooks saddlebag?
 
When I picked up a 1972 Raleigh Sports a month or so ago it had this bag attached to the nearly-mint Brooks B-72 saddle.

I can't find any identifying branding on it that would indicate that it's a Brooks but I did see the same bag called a Brooks way early on in this most informative of threads.

Here are links to four pics I posted at FLICKR; BTW, can someone point me to a tutorial that will show me how to post pics directly here at BF?

Tx

TOP - http://www.flickr.com/photos/5340652...in/photostream
SEAT MOUNTING SIDE - http://www.flickr.com/photos/5340652...n/photostream/
FENDER SIDE - http://www.flickr.com/photos/5340652...n/photostream/
BOTTOM - http://www.flickr.com/photos/5340652...n/photostream/

PalmettoUpstate 07-08-12 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by desconhecido (Post 10944889)
The 3-speed hub on the $30 Raleigh Sports that I posted about recently was pretty much fubar when I bought the bike. After I took the hub out of the wheel, I overfilled it with ATF and exercised the crap out of it in all forward gears and back pedal. I thought that I was going to have to take it apart, but after messing with it for relatively brief periods over several days, and draining and re-overfilling, it started to work ok. all three gears would engage and it would "coast" properly. Eventually, it stopped leaking ATF and appeared to be fine. I built it into a new wheel and it's on the bike and it performs flawlessly. Shifts easily, coasts properly, back pedals properly -- what can I say, I'm in Sturmey Archer Nirvana. The moral of this story is, just because your 3-speed hub isn't happy right now doesn't mean it won't respond to a ltittle massaging -- even while enclosed.

Some beautiful skinny; thanks!

PalmettoUpstate 07-08-12 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 10951668)
Sturmey Archers has a new one out or coming out shortly. I have a couple of the red line Bendix. Biggest problems I have had with them is that there is an internal spring that breaks and is all but impossible to find a replacement for. They are fun to ride, mine is built into a 26" cruiser wheel that is supposed to go on my ratrod if I ever get it built.

Aaron :)

I have a cool, light Motobecane Jubilee MTB out in the shop that came equipped with a six speed cassette and a solo chainring [IOW, a six speed MTB!]

The front sprocket has a round chain guard on both sides of the sprocket.

I plan to put a SRAM Automatix coaster hub on it and street slicks and make it into a poor man's KB2. [Torker]

Schwinnsta 07-08-12 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 14455214)
So you're saying that yes, a Raleigh could have come outfitted with DARE cork grips? [sorry to be obtuse]

No, I am saying they were added later and that it likely had come with DARE rubber grips like in most of the pictures in this thread.

gster 07-09-12 04:52 AM

You're right. Those photos are from the first day I got the bike and have since flipped the hub. It took me a while to notice.
http://threespeedmania.wordpress.com/

PalmettoUpstate 07-09-12 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Schwinnsta (Post 14455370)
No, I am saying they were added later and that it likely had come with DARE rubber grips like in most of the pictures in this thread.

Thanks for the clarification. I have seen a lot of pics of Raleigh 3-speeds with cork grips on them and that's why I posed the question on this thread.

I just looked closely at the grips on the two Raleighs in our LR and see the DARE name on them. Durable? - definitely! Comfortable? - definitely not!

BTW, I have a 27" wheeled women's Schwinn Suburban out back queued up to be gone through and the "deluxe" grips on that bike are a really good design for giving some good measure of comfort and still using a uber-durable material...

You can see in two of the pics on this ebay link how Schwinn molded a channel into the grips that faces where a rider's palms contact them. When I test rode the old girl out back [from the seller's garage down a rather steep incline to my Tacoma p.u.] I noticed immediately the comfort they provided. Good design! [of course, with your screen name I'm sure that you are aware of this!]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SCHW...-/251102041793

Thanks again for the skinny on the cork...

gna 07-09-12 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 14453708)
Some photos of my "new" 1972 Raleigh Superbe. This one came with a key. The period saddle bags are an add on. I'm also promoting the Vintage Bicycle Show here in Toronto.http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=260365

I love the saddlebags. Where are they from?

Mexican Street Dog 07-09-12 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 14451709)
Nice bike MSD, is that the original saddle, a Brooks B-72 by chance?

Yes,it is a B72. I don't know if it is the one that came on the bike but it is dried out enough that it certainly could be. It is stiff as a board and not responding to my normal warm olive oil massage. It has tears at the rivets also so it may be a washout. :( The rest of the bike is coming along nicely, the DynoHub is very draggy so I'm trying to figure out how involved I want to get in that. Any input on the DynoHub would be appreciated.

PalmettoUpstate 07-09-12 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Mexican Street Dog (Post 14458688)
Yes,it is a B72. I don't know if it is the one that came on the bike but it is dried out enough that it certainly could be. It is stiff as a board and not responding to my normal warm olive oil massage. It has tears at the rivets also so it may be a washout. :( The rest of the bike is coming along nicely, the DynoHub is very draggy so I'm trying to figure out how involved I want to get in that. Any input on the DynoHub would be appreciated.

I thought that it was a B-72 from looking at the springs but the leather sure looked anorexic. Do you think that's from being wet too many times?

Wish I could help out with the DynoHub but have never even seen one down here in "bicycle wasteland" LOL.

[But seriously now, my neck of the woods isn't a Mecca for vintage British 3-speeds but... there is good and bad to that - mainly good for me because when a nice example does turn up, I don't have much competition from other people who may want it but... I aim to change that ;v]


wahoonc 07-09-12 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Mexican Street Dog (Post 14458688)
Yes,it is a B72. I don't know if it is the one that came on the bike but it is dried out enough that it certainly could be. It is stiff as a board and not responding to my normal warm olive oil massage. It has tears at the rivets also so it may be a washout. :( The rest of the bike is coming along nicely, the DynoHub is very draggy so I'm trying to figure out how involved I want to get in that. Any input on the DynoHub would be appreciated.

All dyno hubs have a fair bit of drag/notchyness to them due to the magnets. Repack the bearings, tighten down the cones then back them off slightly. Whatever you do DON'T separate the magnet from the armature, you will kill the magnet then the hub won't work properly.

I have 4 front dyno hubs and 3 rear dyno hubs currently in use and love every one of them.

Aaron :)

djkashuba 07-09-12 07:51 PM

New old DL-1 for the wife.
Gonna be too hot to ride after work but not too hot to polish some English Chrome and buff some Raleigh paint.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7131/7...649eb844_b.jpg
Raleigh Tourist DL-1 1980 by djk762, on Flickr

-D

JohnDThompson 07-09-12 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mexican Street Dog (Post 14458688)
The rest of the bike is coming along nicely, the DynoHub is very draggy so I'm trying to figure out how involved I want to get in that. Any input on the DynoHub would be appreciated.

Dynohubs are always "draggy" because of the magnets. Just adjust it so there's no slop in the bearings and be happy. These aren't speed machines, but working mans' bikes, so adjust expectations accordingly.

N.B. if you service the Dynohub, take care not to separate the magnet ring from the armature without using a "keeper ring" to protect the magnets. Those old magnets aren't like modern rare earth magnets and they loose their strength very quickly if they aren't treated properly.

Mexican Street Dog 07-11-12 05:30 PM

Thanks all, for the info on the DynoHub. Sorta reminds me of a Frank Zappa song (snicker) I've got tomorrow and the next day off so I'm going to repack the hubs and wait impatiently for my new cotters.

Also, Rod brakes are so cool.


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