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datlas 07-06-20 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 21572975)

Bummer.

Related fact: one of my undergrad classmates was Kozo Shimano, who ran North American operations for Shimano before retiring in 2008. I knew who he was but did not know him personally. They said he had a really nice bike at school.

datlas 07-06-20 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21573022)
Remember when 2016 started off bad and we thought that it couldn't get much worse? :twitchy:

Sad! doesnít begin to describe it.

bampilot06 07-06-20 04:58 PM

Went to the doctor today for a quick blood pressure check. Blood pressure is fine, faa requires it. Anyways, while I was there I mentioned my hand (it has gotten better), and he was shocked that I was on the bike for four hours. He actually showed concern, and said the max cardio activity I should be doing is 60 mins max three times a week. He said that hours of cardio has been proven to cause heart problems in Endurance athletes. I donít plan on stopping what I am doing anytime soon, Thoughts anyone?

datlas 07-06-20 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 21573038)
Went to the doctor today for a quick blood pressure check. Blood pressure is fine, faa requires it. Anyways, while I was there I mentioned my hand (it has gotten better), and he was shocked that I was on the bike for four hours. He actually showed concern, and said the max cardio activity I should be doing is 60 mins max three times a week. He said that hours of cardio has been proven to cause heart problems in Endurance athletes. I donít plan on stopping what I am doing anytime soon, Thoughts anyone?

Rarely, you can get scar tissue in the heart but I believe this is really for ultra-distance activities. I see nothing wrong with 4 hours on the bike. Or even more. One of my former cycling friends was a commercial pilot and rode/rides lots and was not told to limit his riding.

big john 07-06-20 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 21573038)
Went to the doctor today for a quick blood pressure check. Blood pressure is fine, faa requires it. Anyways, while I was there I mentioned my hand (it has gotten better), and he was shocked that I was on the bike for four hours. He actually showed concern, and said the max cardio activity I should be doing is 60 mins max three times a week. He said that hours of cardio has been proven to cause heart problems in Endurance athletes. I donít plan on stopping what I am doing anytime soon, Thoughts anyone?

You could read this. https://www.velopress.com/books/the-haywire-heart/

Pirkaus 07-06-20 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 21572879)
:eek: My Rotts had a contest to see who could embowel a doll fastest. Only Kong toys or Nylabones for them. Just a couple days ago Venus ripped the stuffing out of her favorite doll.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4288eb9568.jpg
No dog can disenbowel a stuffed toy faster than Batting Bat, aka Batty

bampilot06 07-06-20 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21573049)
Rarely, you can get scar tissue in the heart but I believe this is really for ultra-distance activities. I see nothing wrong with 4 hours on the bike. Or even more. One of my former cycling friends was a commercial pilot and rode/rides lots and was not told to limit his riding.


He wasnít referring strictly to me. He was speaking about everyone in general.

datlas 07-06-20 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 21573102)
He wasnít referring strictly to me. He was speaking about everyone in general.

He is obviously not a cyclist.

Bah Humbug 07-06-20 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21573022)
Remember when 2016 started off bad and we thought that it couldn't get much worse? :twitchy:

Oh ****, you're right.

So, another black swan event to shatter a world hanging on by a thread?

On a personal level, 2016 was the year my poor old boy died (in August, when I thought that was the worst thing in the year). I think it's since then that media death has hit me harder; "It's Quiet Uptown" has been rolling in my head today and it's brutal.

Pirkaus 07-06-20 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21573049)
Rarely, you can get scar tissue in the heart but I believe this is really for ultra-distance activities. I see nothing wrong with 4 hours on the bike. Or even more. One of my former cycling friends was a commercial pilot and rode/rides lots and was not told to limit his riding.

I found out I have Ventricular Tachycardia when testing after my accident last year. I found I can minimize it with medication and reducing the training load I carry. The days of 200+ mile one day rides and double metrics are gone, may try a lazy century later in the season. Sad, but not worth dying over.
The funny thing is I saw random high HR numbers, but thought the monitor was screwing up. Cardiologist told me that HR's are really good at counting beats, good or bad. I never felt anything while it was happening, but doesn't change the possible outcome of syncope, or death.

Bah Humbug 07-06-20 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21573049)
Rarely, you can get scar tissue in the heart but I believe this is really for ultra-distance activities. I see nothing wrong with 4 hours on the bike. Or even more. One of my former cycling friends was a commercial pilot and rode/rides lots and was not told to limit his riding.

Yeah you would know more than me on it, but the cases I've heard about that are people doing the truly stupid events like Leadville or Western States. It's not something I've heard of hitting any marathoners or Ironman sorts, even those who do a couple per year for years on end.

noodle soup 07-06-20 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21569414)
Looks to my inexpert eye like a case of too much sun.

I'm a ginger that's lived in the SW for 25 years. It's hard to avoid.

I'm guessing it was tire sealant, but I couldn't find a puncture.

noodle soup 07-06-20 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 21569202)
2 other guys I ride with tested positive this week, but I haven't seen either one in a few months( and they haven't been in contact either). Both have symptoms, and feel sick, but nothing terrible at this point.

The one guy I've been in contact with is feeling the effects, but his girlfriend(who he was visiting) has tested negative, and will be retested tomorrow.

MoAlpha 07-06-20 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 21573154)
I'm a ginger that's lived in the SW for 25 years. It's hard to avoid.

I'm guessing it was tire sealant, but I couldn't find a puncture.

Ah, just so.

bampilot06 07-06-20 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21573121)
He is obviously not a cyclist.


very much the opposite. I think if he was he would require a full suspension.....

rjones28 07-06-20 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21572043)
To me the best part is the stalking.

We know.

bampilot06 07-06-20 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21573140)
Yeah you would know more than me on it, but the cases I've heard about that are people doing the truly stupid events like Leadville or Western States. It's not something I've heard of hitting any marathoners or Ironman sorts, even those who do a couple per year for years on end.


This is good to know. Figured I would ask here, it didnít seem right to me, but I wasnít going to argue with him. He must not be a fan of marathoners either.

rjones28 07-06-20 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 21572371)
I rode through the Tabernas Desert in Andalucia, where a lot of that was filmed. I kept yelling ďBolndie!Ē The cemetery is actually in Northern Spain.

:thumb:

rjones28 07-06-20 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21572824)
Oh, and another question for the experts: Do you sleeve your cables with liner tubing where they pass through the cable guide under the BB? My bike started out with them sleeved, but the one on the rear cable migrated back into the chain stay. There was no visible damage to the guide.

No

rjones28 07-06-20 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21572933)
In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand big bicycle should be able to design a cable system that attaches one part of a bicycle to another.

SMH.

Velo Vol . Living in the past.

rjones28 07-06-20 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21572935)
But then we wouldn't have reason to buy fancy electronic shifting systems.

Indeed.

rjones28 07-06-20 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21573022)
Remember when 2016 started off bad and we thought that it couldn't get much worse? :twitchy:

Good times

gnome 07-06-20 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 21573217)
This is good to know. Figured I would ask here, it didnít seem right to me, but I wasnít going to argue with him. He must not be a fan of marathoners either.

Or hikers.

MoAlpha 07-06-20 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 21573038)
Went to the doctor today for a quick blood pressure check. Blood pressure is fine, faa requires it. Anyways, while I was there I mentioned my hand (it has gotten better), and he was shocked that I was on the bike for four hours. He actually showed concern, and said the max cardio activity I should be doing is 60 mins max three times a week. He said that hours of cardio has been proven to cause heart problems in Endurance athletes. I don’t plan on stopping what I am doing anytime soon, Thoughts anyone?

He’s right about the risk of cardiac problems in elderly athletes with lifetime involvement in endurance sports, but he or someone else pulled those weekly numbers out of their ass. You hear a lot about cardiac arrhythmias from the old farts here, but they are common in sedentary old people too.

As a 64 year-old physician who fits the profile, I worry a hell of a lot more about being mooshed by a negligent driver.

BTW, you will need to protect that ulnar nerve or find a position on the bike which doesn’t traumatize it. You are likely hitting it on the pinky side of the base of your palm. Nerves recover, but don’t like repeated damage.

big john 07-06-20 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 21573217)
This is good to know. Figured I would ask here, it didnít seem right to me, but I wasnít going to argue with him. He must not be a fan of marathoners either.

I'm not sure but I think the overtraining heart issues are more cyclists than any other sports. I don't think others put in the hours for years on end like cyclists do, although I knew a guy who ran (fast) 135 miles per week. Still, he got shin splints and switched to cycling where he had that huge engine but no skills.

ls01 07-06-20 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21572933)
In the Year of Our Lord Two Thousand big bicycle should be able to design a cable system that attaches one part of a bicycle to another.

SMH.

They did, its called axs, 12 speed, and phenomenal!

big john 07-06-20 07:56 PM

As a 66 year old lifetime slacker I also worry about motorists but I also worry about having to quit doing hard rides due to some heart problem.
I had some a-fib issue while I was still working but it resolved itself in between doctor visits and fighting with insurance.
Before corona I was up to 13 or more hours per week on the bike with a good part of that at high intensity.

Velo Vol 07-06-20 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21572935)
But then we wouldn't have reason to buy fancy electronic shifting systems.

I have no reason to buy said systems.

Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 21572959)
The choir part too?

Nope.


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21572983)
Hasn't 2020 sucked enough already?

Nope.


Originally Posted by Pirkaus (Post 21573134)
The days of 200+ mile one day rides and double metrics are gone

Same.

Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 21573243)
Velo Vol . Living in the past.

Not as far back as some of the other posters here are.

ls01 07-06-20 08:03 PM

I think we are more likely to develop heart problems from not training than over training. No one here rides that much, not even LAJ.
Don't ever forget, we are all to fat for this stupid sport.

big john 07-06-20 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 21573327)
They did, its called axs, 12 speed, and phenomenal!

Their wireless dropper seatpost got rave reviews.


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