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RobbieTunes 02-06-20 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by Dean51 (Post 21315991)
@RobbieTunes ..... you caught me in an error. I used Barge cement to reattach the BASE tape. 'Apologies to you and any others who I may have confused with my error.

Dean

Thanks.... "base tape." That fits my mind.

Mounting tubulars to rim: tubular cement/tubular glue or double-sided tape made for that purpose.
Repairing the base tape: Barge cement, any others.
Reconditioning the sidewall: tent sealer or Kelly's Cork Renew

Anyone wants to chime in, feel free.

machinist42 02-18-20 09:38 PM

Hmmm.
 

Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 21307806)
If you like Schwalbe One HT 28mm tubulars in all black, they are at this moment $26.30 (plus shipping) on Amazon. They are back ordered from Amazon UK and my total for two with shipping was $68. I won't be charged until they ship.

I ordered a brace of these when you posted this link. I hadn't heard anything so checked my account moments ago and my order was cancelled. However, it gave me the option of re-ordering, and again they seem to be on offer for ~$26: backorder, though.

Did your order go through?

pastorbobnlnh 02-19-20 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by machinist42 (Post 21333373)
I ordered a brace of these when you posted this link. I hadn't heard anything so checked my account moments ago and my order was cancelled. However, it gave me the option of re-ordering, and again they seem to be on offer for ~$26: backorder, though.

Did your order go through?

So far they have not been shipped nor has the order been canceled. I remain hopeful. This morning when I checked my order status, one tire says it is being "preparing for shipment," while the other has a status of "not yet shipped." If they eventually arrive at this price that will be fantastic. If I never see them, I know Amazon won't charge me. I'm not loosing any sleep over this one way or the other.

machinist42 02-19-20 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 21333518)
So far they have not been shipped nor has the order been canceled. I remain hopeful. This morning when I checked my order status, one tire says it is being "preparing for shipment," while the other has a status of "not yet shipped." If they eventually arrive at this price that will be fantastic. If I never see them, I know Amazon won't charge me. I'm not loosing any sleep over this one way or the other.

I am of a similar calm and indifferent sentiment. I re-placed my order last night. I was not notified that my order had been cancelled. I was not charged either. Today it shows as pending, again.

That size of tire no longer displays as for sale at the site.

I only wanted to let you know that if your order had been unceremoniously cancelled as mine was, the option to re-order was presenting yesterday.

Also, thank you for bringing this to my attention way back when. I do hope it goes through, but if not, no worries.

pastorbobnlnh 02-20-20 08:51 AM

machinist42 Lo and behold! I just received an email from Amazon and one of my Schwalbe One HT 28mm tubular tires has shipped with an estimated arrival on March 3rd! The other is still marked as "Not yet shipped...." Hopefully I receive both and won't end up with an orphan. :innocent:

pastorbobnlnh 02-21-20 07:03 AM

Update on the above post: I checked the my Amazon Order Status this morning and the second tire continues to say "Not yet shipped...," but when I clicked on "Track Package" it gives me the same status as the first tire with the same Australian Post tracking number due to arrive on March 3rd. Both indicate the location is an "Amazon Facility in Rochester, Medway, GB." So posibly, I'll receive both and they are shipping together.

Were my tires, which I believe are made in Germany or Switzerland, shipped to Australia, next to Great Britain, and eventually to here in New Hampshire, USA, all for $16 USD!?! Our global economy is mind boggling!

jimmuller 02-21-20 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 21336454)
Our global economy is mind boggling!

It will be mind boggling if you ever get those tires. :D

pastorbobnlnh 02-22-20 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by jimmuller (Post 21337421)
It will be mind boggling if you ever get those tires. :D

Maybe--- however, this morning's update from Amazon: "Package has left Amazon facility, Rochester, GB." At least I know it is traveling someplace. Possibly from Old England to New England?

hwheel72 02-23-20 06:55 PM

Anyone try out Veloflex Roubaaix's on gravel? The site says they are designed for cobblestone wet and dry so I'm assuming they would hold up on fairly packed gravel? I'm considering these for the Eroica California. Thoughts?

Wildwood 02-25-20 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by hwheel72 (Post 21339840)
Anyone try out Veloflex Roubaaix's on gravel? The site says they are designed for cobblestone wet and dry so I'm assuming they would hold up on fairly packed gravel? I'm considering these for the Eroica California. Thoughts?

depends on weather conditions leading up to the event. Or if they grade the road and it is soft.

25mm is a narrow gravel tire. Except on an 'ideal' packed gravel road, of course.

edit: Which route you choose makes all the difference.
even if the sloppy conditions on the long route are only a few miles, too narrow on the rubber can be hazardous. Unless you walk the slop.


one showstopper stops the whole show.

sewupnut 02-25-20 01:25 PM

Discovered way back in the old red glue days that an old toothbrush works. Good for Vittoria Mastik as well.

Classtime 02-25-20 01:31 PM

hwheel72 What do we know about Veloflex Roubaix sidewalls? Some of the EroicaCA gravel is sharper than cobblestones. I'm a Sprinter Gatorskin for gravel fan and used them (25s) the last 3 years but I have been tempted to get some fancy and nicer riding tubulars that will be fun to ride on during the rest of Spring and early Summer -- if they survive the Central Coast Gravel.

Wildwood 02-27-20 05:19 AM

Specialized has put their Turbo Allrounder tubular on Sale. Normally $50, now $35. Same tpi, same weight and latex tube as with the $100 Turbo. Black sidewalls.

hwheel72 02-27-20 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 21342155)
depends on weather conditions leading up to the event. Or if they grade the road and it is soft.

25mm is a narrow gravel tire. Except on an 'ideal' packed gravel road, of course.

edit: Which route you choose makes all the difference.
even if the sloppy conditions on the long route are only a few miles, too narrow on the rubber can be hazardous. Unless you walk the slop.


one showstopper stops the whole show.

Yes, I know they are narrow. I plan on riding the San Lucia route which has about 16 or so miles on gravel. I'm going take them out for a gravel ride in Dallas and see how I like them. If I keep them at about 70 psi and I dont weigh that much, it could work. We shall see. I might be walking in the slop as well depending. Haha

CV-6 02-27-20 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by hwheel72 (Post 21339840)
Anyone try out Veloflex Roubaaix's on gravel? The site says they are designed for cobblestone wet and dry so I'm assuming they would hold up on fairly packed gravel? I'm considering these for the Eroica California. Thoughts?

This is second hand info, but I know someone who has done the Cali Eroica twice on Roubaix and has not mentioned any issues. I do not know what route he rode.

RobbieTunes 02-28-20 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 21344766)
Specialized has put their Turbo Allrounder tubular on Sale. Normally $50, now $35. Same tpi, same weight and latex tube as with the $100 Turbo. Black sidewalls.

Nice. I need some black walls.

hvolks 03-01-20 08:21 PM

I finally went tubular as I had so many nice tubular rims.
I ended up with Gatorskins with some continental sealant, I rode this for over a year with no issues to work each day.
just a 10k each way.
The bike is now retired, but thinking of swapping the tubulars to another set or rims.
It was a struggle doing these the first time, I followed the Continental guide, use there glue as well..

pastorbobnlnh 03-02-20 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by jimmuller (Post 21337421)
It will be mind boggling if you ever get those tires. :D

Jim and machinist42, one Schwalbe One HT arrived today! Amazon still marks both as "Out for Delivery," so the jury is still out as to whether I receive both.

However, the first tire is not all black as was described when purchased. Instead it is tan wall--- which is what I was looking for in the first place and is what I currently run on my '71 Paramount. So I'm actually very happy about this--- as long as the second tire arrives as a tan wall. If not, I'll not be bummed. I have two spare tan walls now, and it doesn't hurt to have a third.

jimmuller 03-03-20 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 21350801)
Jim and machinist42, one Schwalbe One HT arrived today! ... and it doesn't hurt to have a third.

Spares are good. But can you ride a unicycle?

pastorbobnlnh 03-03-20 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by jimmuller (Post 21351201)
Spares are good. But can you ride a unicycle?

Tried a unicycle that I found at the town's stump dump--- once. Didn't need to try again! :bike2:

smontanaro 03-03-20 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 21351255)
Tried a unicycle that I found at the town's stump dump--- once. Didn't need to try again! :bike2:

Besides, where would you hang the freewheel? ;)

crank_addict 03-04-20 01:05 PM

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pastorbobnlnh 03-05-20 06:00 AM

Any idea @crank_addict what year that was published/printed?

If by chance anyone was wondering what in the world is "Whit Monday" its the day after Pentecost Sunday, which this year is on May 31st. Pentecost is a floating church holiday, tied in with Easter.

crank_addict 03-15-20 01:34 PM

Just for those who have nightmares and against tubulars💨

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crank_addict 03-15-20 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by pastorbobnlnh (Post 21353926)
Any idea @crank_addict what year that was published/printed?

If by chance anyone was wondering what in the world is "Whit Monday" its the day after Pentecost Sunday, which this year is on May 31st. Pentecost is a floating church holiday, tied in with Easter.

Possibly 1920's - 1930's

Shrevvy 03-15-20 05:43 PM

Very cool. Is that your book? I'd love to find a copy or high quality scans.

Andy@64 03-18-20 02:36 PM

great document !

Wildwood 03-27-20 01:55 PM

Specialized has a sales price on the Hell of th North tubular. Still not cheap at $75USD

And the AllRounder still reduced.


I like my 3 year old Spesh cotton Turbos.

smontanaro 03-27-20 05:06 PM

There are actually three different tubulars, Turbo Cotton, nominally priced at $59.99 (down from $80, though more below), the S-Works Turbo Hell Of The North, priced at $75, and the Turbo Cotton Hell of The North (no "S-Works"), priced at $80.

I put one of the Turbo Cotton tubulars in my cart, but it rang up at $80, not $59.99. Weird. I'm waiting for Specialized to get back to me about that.

BFisher 04-03-20 07:37 AM

Newb tubular question - What are the differences between vintage track rims and vintage road rims? Weight? Spoke count? Construction?


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