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Originally Posted by branko_76
(Post 22609202)
Thanks for the replies...
BSD = Bead Seat Diameter...I've never paid much attention to this stuff, now I get it According to Sheldon Brown 27" = 630mm BSD 700C = 622mm BSD and you guys are saying that 650B = 584mm BSD So this rim is smaller than 27" yet many use 650B in bikes designed for 27" wheels. So, the idea is to use larger tires for comfort with the tradeoff of needed longer reach brakes. Am I getting this right? The 650Bx38’s on my Marinoni, installed for about 1,000 miles so far this year, are noticeably more comfortable on Seattle’s crappy pavement and just a touch more “relaxed” feeling compared to the 700x32’s also used in this bike. Here’s the 650B setup without the fenders for best visual comparison: https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...-8wbQpM3-L.jpg And with 700x32’s: https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...-QcggPxm-L.jpg |
Originally Posted by branko_76
(Post 22609202)
Thanks for the replies...
BSD = Bead Seat Diameter...I've never paid much attention to this stuff, now I get it According to Sheldon Brown 27" = 630mm BSD 700C = 622mm BSD and you guys are saying that 650B = 584mm BSD So this rim is smaller than 27" yet many use 650B in bikes designed for 27" wheels. So, the idea is to use larger tires for comfort with the tradeoff of needing longer reach brakes. Am I getting this right? . . |
Originally Posted by 52telecaster
(Post 22609271)
That's it!
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Originally Posted by CityParkCruiser
(Post 22607872)
Here's my Trek, inspired by Rene Herse and the Frek 650 - added custom canti posts and some other convenience features. It's a neo retro build, with a 10 speed rear end, running a 36T cassette so it's got more low end, and it's indexed shifting.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1151dbbbc.jpeg Comfortable for miles and miles. |
Originally Posted by mountaindave
(Post 22613326)
And now you're selling it on eBay?
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Originally Posted by CityParkCruiser
(Post 22613347)
Yes, I am. I've decided to move it on.
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Originally Posted by CityParkCruiser
(Post 22607872)
Here's my Trek, inspired by Rene Herse and the Frek 650 - added custom canti posts and some other convenience features. It's a neo retro build, with a 10 speed rear end, running a 36T cassette so it's got more low end, and it's indexed shifting.
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Originally Posted by mechanicmatt
(Post 22328469)
Is that a Soma Champs Elysees Fork? How do you like it?
The only thing I really don't get is the bottom of the crown / steerer area. The steerer comes down quite a bit under the bottom of the crown which leaves very little room for a fender and decent sized tires. I'm currently running a 35c tire without fenders and there is about 4mm of gap between the bottom of the crown/steerer. I doubt I could run a 32c tires with a fender...or it would be super tight. Still a great fork for the price (even though they raised it this year by ~$30) |
Originally Posted by strathconaman
(Post 22609215)
Another "Frek" inspired creation.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...88ed6d64b0.jpg |
@branko_76, as I think you know, the bead seat diameter (BSD) of a rim and tire does not have leeway. Your tire's BSD must match your rim's BSD.
Switching from 700c or 27" wheels to 650b can often get you wheels whose outside diameters (including the inflated tire) are very close to original. Sometimes the handling changes a bit, and sometimes it doesn't. In the case of my conversion, my outer diameter is slightly less, so my bike stands a little closer to the ground. But having wide tires at low pressure is a pleasure. It added a bit of weight, but I don't mind. I think I've figured out the handling weirdness. It tends to oversteer, i.e. it pulls the bike in the direction I'm turning a bit harder than I expect. And the solution is to figure out the ideal pressure for the front tire. I'm experimenting with that now. |
Sneaking in another image of the Fuji S12S, might inspire someone to convert one of these as it will take 42mm with fenders and enough room to spare. I might have it stripped down and have canti as well as rack mounts brazed in place but the bike is fine as is though a nice paint job and new decals would be welcome it is a pleasant daily rider.
I disabled the Campy ergo shifters and went with traditional down tube mounted Suntour Power Shift and looking into a pair of Origin8 brake levers. https://i.imgur.com/IQ2shyuh.jpg |
Originally Posted by VintageRide
(Post 22622345)
Sneaking in another image of the Fuji S12S, might inspire someone to convert one of these as it will take 42mm with fenders and enough room to spare. I might have it stripped down and have canti as well as rack mounts brazed in place but the bike is fine as is though a nice paint job and new decals would be welcome it is a pleasant daily rider.
I disabled the Campy ergo shifters and went with traditional down tube mounted Suntour Power Shift and looking into a pair of Origin8 brake levers. https://i.imgur.com/IQ2shyuh.jpg * * * |
Originally Posted by branko_76
(Post 22609202)
Thanks for the replies...
... According to Sheldon Brown 27" = 630mm BSD 700C = 622mm BSD and you guys are saying that 650B = 584mm BSD Am I getting this right? 28=29er=622 650b=27.5=584 So... It means that
🤦🏻😂 |
Originally Posted by alexk_il
(Post 22625578)
I've heard that
28=29er=622 650b=27.5=584 So... It means that
🤦🏻😂 26” = 559mm 26” = 650A = EA3 = 590mm 26” = EA1 = 597mm |
Sequoia 650b Dinner Cruise
Took Sequoia out on a dinner cruise last night - Taco Tuesday at the Mississippi Pub. I'm including both color and B&W images here, because they both turned out very nice.
Coming: https://i.imgur.com/N3fHrt1.png https://i.imgur.com/Rzzngdo.png Going: https://i.imgur.com/relfSDz.png https://i.imgur.com/T2DJjpX.png ... and the tacos were excellent too. * * * |
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