Zipp 303S with tubes?
Hi, I am planning to get the Zipp 303S wheels for my road bike. I want to use the wheels with inner tubes (preferably latex tubes with TL Ready tires). Most of the riders will use them tubeless I assume. But maybe there are some others who are riding with tubes.
Will it work with no doubts? I have read somewhere that SRAM suggests riding with tubes only in case of e.g. a puncture. |
Originally Posted by Vavida52
(Post 22323845)
Hi, I am planning to get the Zipp 303S wheels for my road bike. I want to use the wheels with inner tubes (preferably latex tubes with TL Ready tires). Most of the riders will use them tubeless I assume. But maybe there are some others who are riding with tubes.
Will it work with no doubts? I have read somewhere that SRAM suggests riding with tubes only in case of e.g. a puncture. |
I would guess that tubes will run just fine. But if you really want info, why not just contact the manufacturer?
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
(Post 22324372)
So I guess I'm curious as to why you'd opt for a hookless setup just to run with tubes, which means you're running heavier tires (TL) plus tubes, while also negating the advantage of sealant protection?
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Originally Posted by Koyote
(Post 22324388)
I would guess that tubes will run just fine. But if you really want info, why not just contact the manufacturer?
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Originally Posted by Vavida52
(Post 22324545)
I am not into that weight game to be honest. I think that the 303S are nice wheels Overall and affordable for what they are and I want to try them out. Going tubeless is no option for me because I don't want to mess with that fluid stuff when I would eventually have a puncture during the ride.
I'm not trying to sway you either way, but you might want to read up (to gain understanding) before making a decision about tubeless. |
I used TL on the road for a few years til I had a pretty good size cut that wouldn't seal. It was such a mess that as soon as I got home I went back to tubes. It's (for me...with my experience) not worth it to run TL on the road. That said, TL is the ONLY way to go for the mountain bike and I'll be converting my BMX bike to TL as soon as I can find the Michelin tires.
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Its a hookless rim, thus You must use a Zipp approved TL tyre, no clinchers, no exceptions. You can however use a tube in the TL tyre. But why would you?
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Originally Posted by Racing Dan
(Post 22324595)
Its a hookless rim, thus You must use a Zipp approved TL tyre, no clinchers, no exceptions. You can however use a tube in the TL tyre. But why would you?
Edit: They state for some specific Conti, Specialized and Zipp tyres which are compatible. The other Brands seem to be compatible in general if they are TL tyres. |
Originally Posted by Vavida52
(Post 22324833)
Where would I find a list of Zipp approved TL tyres? All I can find in their page is that every tyre works which has any TL Label on it.
Edit: They state for some specific Conti, Specialized and Zipp tyres which are compatible. The other Brands seem to be compatible in general if they are TL tyres. Kinda weird that afaik Zipp only sells tubeless or tubular road wheels, but the only road tire they sell is neither. |
Originally Posted by Vavida52
(Post 22324833)
Where would I find a list of Zipp approved TL tyres? All I can find in their page is that every tyre works which has any TL Label on it.
Edit: They state for some specific Conti, Specialized and Zipp tyres which are compatible. The other Brands seem to be compatible in general if they are TL tyres. If you want to use tubes, go get some of the newish Bontragers if you want wide, moderately deep, relatively light, and not terribly expensive wheels. |
Originally Posted by Sy Reene
(Post 22324858)
Kinda weird that afaik Zipp only sells tubeless or tubular road wheels, but the only road tire they sell is neither.
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I would get a set of wheels with hooked rims if I were dead set against tubeless.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 22324867)
I have the Zipp 303S. I love them.... but you shouldn't get them. They're for people that are committed to tubeless.
If you want to use tubes, go get some of the newish Bontragers if you want wide, moderately deep, relatively light, and not terribly expensive wheels. Answering the OP's question on approved tires... https://support.sram.com/hc/en-us/ar...hookless-rims- I'm running the SWorks Turbo in 28c; they're pricey but so far they've been great. They seated quickly with a track pump and retains air pressure for weeks. |
Thanks for the feedback which I was kinda expecting.I received the wheels today and will definitely try my luck with inner tubes. Also received feedback from zipp that I may use tubes if the other criteria are fulfilled (max. Pressure and TL tyre).
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Just a quick update:
Installed Panaracer Gravelking slicks in 700x32c. Installation was easy as I would have expected. The loud banging noise was a bit shocking when seating the tyre as it was very loud (should be a good sign for the tube setup I guess). Tyre sits perfectly and overall look is very nice. Could not test it yet except for 1hr of zwift. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3da6740939.jpg |
This is a trend I've noticed as well. I run tubes on my 32mm road bike. only have a flat every other year if that. I would like to get a nice set of Carbon wheels. Not wanting to switch to tubeless but most of the wheels offered are tubeless only.
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Originally Posted by Razorrock
(Post 22330474)
Not wanting to switch to tubeless but most of the wheels offered are tubeless only.
If you're talking tubeless ready/compatible, sure - most of the current model wheels are compatible, but you don't need to run tubeless tires on them. |
Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 22324867)
I have the Zipp 303S. I love them.... but you shouldn't get them. They're for people that are committed to tubeless.
If you want to use tubes, go get some of the newish Bontragers if you want wide, moderately deep, relatively light, and not terribly expensive wheels. |
Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 22330727)
Very much not true. A few of the newest models from Zipp are tubeless only, ENVE has a handful, and Giant has a few - of the major players, that's about all of the tubeless-only wheels on the market; it's a small percentage of the total.
If you're talking tubeless ready/compatible, sure - most of the current model wheels are compatible, but you don't need to run tubeless tires on them. |
Swiss side and Reynolds make nice wheels without silly dimples.
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Originally Posted by Razorrock
(Post 22332184)
What am i missing?
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Originally Posted by Razorrock
(Post 22332184)
I'm looking for a carbon disk wheelset. something in the 35mm - 45mm deep running 32mm tires. (conti 5000) Enve or Zipp would be 1st choice but open to other manufactures. I keep running into hookless options. What am i missing?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 22332200)
A lot. As I said, only a handful out there are tubeless only, but you seem to be intent on the two brands that are pushing hookless/tubeless. Look at just about any other brands.
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Originally Posted by Racing Dan
(Post 22324595)
Its a hookless rim, thus You must use a Zipp approved TL tyre, no clinchers, no exceptions. You can however use a tube in the TL tyre. But why would you?
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