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Mojo31 09-16-21 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22232751)
On the RAAM web page they estimate the minimum @ $20k.
You use 2 vehicles, an RV and a van, which usually are rented and driven across the country and back. In LOP's example it says 15mpg average. You can count on substantially less than that, especially going east during the race.
You have to feed the crew and put them up in motels if time permits.

RV rental is not cheap these days. I looked into it some last year, and besides the daily rate of $300-400+/day for a Class B type, the charge was typically $.50 - 1.00/mile for every mile over 100, and add prep, clean and other fees. You're looking at at least $7,000 for two weeks plus mileage.

genejockey 09-16-21 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22232769)
My favorite social media post this week was "Vote out the imbisol". The irony is delicious.

"Imbisol" sounds like the next thing they'll take to beat COVID without getting vaccinated.

Eric F 09-16-21 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22232774)
"Imbisol" sounds like the next thing they'll take to beat COVID without getting vaccinated.

That particular person probably would.

big john 09-16-21 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22232726)
Ill look it up.

Funny I had full wife support until I said 30k

Don't forget you have to qualify. So you have to travel to and complete those events, along with more time off work.

genejockey 09-16-21 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22232776)
That particular person probably would.

I saw a political cartoon suggesting Ivermectin would defeat the "Medical Industrial Complex", which made me think, "Who do they think makes Ivermectin, anyway? Grandma Ivermectin? Going out to pick fresh herbs from the woods near her home, then brewing it up in small, artisan batches before bottling it and going from pharmacy to pharmacy feed store to feed store to stock it?"

MERCK makes it, for pete's sake.

Eric F 09-16-21 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22232788)
I saw a political cartoon suggesting Ivermectin would defeat the "Medical Industrial Complex", which made me think, "Who do they think makes Ivermectin, anyway? Grandma Ivermectin? Going out to pick fresh herbs from the woods near her home, then brewing it up in small, artisan batches before bottling it and going from pharmacy to pharmacy feed store to feed store to stock it?"

MERCK makes it, for pete's sake.

Imbisols.

genejockey 09-16-21 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22232782)
Don't forget you have to qualify. So you have to travel to and complete those events, along with more time off work.

This all sounds like a way of making yourself hate cycling.

big john 09-16-21 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22232772)
RV rental is not cheap these days. I looked into it some last year, and besides the daily rate of $300-400+/day for a Class B type, the charge was typically $.50 - 1.00/mile for every mile over 100, and add prep, clean and other fees. You're looking at at least $7,000 for two weeks plus mileage.

Plus mileage would put it up around $14K, plus the $12K minimum from LOP's 2007 example. I suppose you could ask a relative to let you use their motorhome for you and 6 of your friends to live in for a while.:innocent:

big john 09-16-21 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22232793)
This all sounds like a way of making yourself hate cycling.

It take a certain kind of individual to do these types of things. Also, there is the whole sleep deprivation thing. That alone lets me out. I've never been able to cope with not sleeping.

BillyD 09-16-21 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22232725)
Back roads, good hotels with actual beds, good food and beer every night, and the option to not ride some days. Maybe ride for two hours some days and sleep in the car/van on the way to the next hotel. Days off the bike, just wandering around some nice towns. Skipping Nebraska, because riding across Nebraska would take forever and feel like Hell.

Where do I sign up?

genejockey 09-16-21 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22232825)
Where do I sign up?

Don't look at me to organize this. I practically had panic attacks co-organizing a pick-up C&V ride on roads I know intimately. I've decided I'm not the leadership kind.

Mojo31 09-16-21 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22232725)
Back roads, good hotels with actual beds, good food and beer every night, and the option to not ride some days. Maybe ride for two hours some days and sleep in the car/van on the way to the next hotel. Days off the bike, just wandering around some nice towns. Skipping Nebraska, because riding across Nebraska would take forever and feel like Hell.

Something like this, but on bikes: Taste of Tuscany - Autobahn Adventures

With full support and luxury rides to the next destination if you don't want to pedal.

genejockey 09-16-21 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22232838)
Something like this, but on bikes: Taste of Tuscany - Autobahn Adventures

With full support and luxury rides to the next destination if you don't want to pedal.

That's kinda what I was thinking, but of course there are big stretches of America with nothing in them. Nevada, for example.

Mojo31 09-16-21 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22232847)
That's kinda what I was thinking, but of course there are big stretches of America with nothing in them. Nevada, for example.

You'd only want to do the good states.

States to skip: the "N" states with the exception of New Hampshire (during the right time of the year) and North Carolina, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Tennessee. There may be more.

ksryder 09-16-21 01:11 PM

RAAM riders routinely cite Kansas as their least favorite state to ride through. Hot, pretty good chance of a 20 mph sustained crosswind if not a headwind much of the time, the western 1/3 of the state is where the "Kansas is flat" thing comes from, and plenty of aggro pickup drivers with questionable moral compasses. Plus the state is deceptively large and it takes a very, very long time to go west to east.

As someone who has lived here my whole life, yeah, I don't blame them.

genejockey 09-16-21 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22232858)
You'd only want to do the good states.

States to skip: the "N" states with the exception of New Hampshire (during the right time of the year) and North Carolina, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Tennessee. There may be more.

I think you could make a pretty good tour on the West Coast by riding from metro area to metro area, but then noodling around in each for a couple days.

LAJ 09-16-21 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by ksryder (Post 22232866)
RAAM riders routinely cite Kansas as their least favorite state to ride through. Hot, pretty good chance of a 20 mph sustained crosswind if not a headwind much of the time, the western 1/3 of the state is where the "Kansas is flat" thing comes from, and plenty of aggro pickup drivers with questionable moral compasses. Plus the state is deceptively large and it takes a very, very long time to go west to east.

As someone who has lived here my whole life, yeah, I don't blame them.

We do the Last Chance 1200k, and people from all over the world say it's extremely difficult. It starts north of Denver and heads to Kansas. Crest a roller, you see corn, crest a roller, you see corn, crest a roller, you see corn. Crest a roller, you see soy......

Just say no.

big john 09-16-21 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by ksryder (Post 22232866)
RAAM riders routinely cite Kansas as their least favorite state to ride through. Hot, pretty good chance of a 20 mph sustained crosswind if not a headwind much of the time, the western 1/3 of the state is where the "Kansas is flat" thing comes from, and plenty of aggro pickup drivers with questionable moral compasses. Plus the state is deceptively large and it takes a very, very long time to go west to east.

As someone who has lived here my whole life, yeah, I don't blame them.

We had a good time in Kansas until the eastern part where drivers started throwing things at us. Before that drivers would wait until it was safe to pass, then go into the other lane and smile and wave as they passed. People were super friendly at stores and everywhere, really. Kids would talk to us without fear and pretty women would say hello and act like it was a normal thing to do.
We rode into Chanute, Kansas and we were starving but the Mexican restaurant was closed between lunch and dinner. After the kid at the door told us that his mom sent him after us to tell us she would be happy to feed us. It was a feast and she just wanted to talk with us.
I thought most of Kansas was wonderful but we did have a day where it was like riding into a hair dryer.

bampilot06 09-16-21 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22232782)
Don't forget you have to qualify. So you have to travel to and complete those events, along with more time off work.


Once I get my mind set on something, I dont stop til I pull it off.

Trsnrtr 09-16-21 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22232385)
I hear that nurses and doctors appreciate the clean cuts from high zoot knives - they stitch up nicely.

You can barely see the scar from my chainsaw action. :thumb:

big john 09-16-21 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22232908)
We do the Last Chance 1200k, and people from all over the world say it's extremely difficult. It starts north of Denver and heads to Kansas. Crest a roller, you see corn, crest a roller, you see corn, crest a roller, you see corn. Crest a roller, you see soy......

Just say no.

I thought riding through eastern Colorado kinda sucked. Hot, flat, ugly, terrible water. I was surprised. Except Brush. I think it was Brush. We went there looking for breakfast and the town was having an all you can eat breakfast at the park. It was 4th of July and it cost $3 and the people were super friendly.

big john 09-16-21 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22232918)
Once I get my mind set on something, I dont stop til I pull it off.

You might be a candidate for RAAM. Or Paris Brest Paris.

Mojo31 09-16-21 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22232908)
We do the Last Chance 1200k, and people from all over the world say it's extremely difficult. It starts north of Denver and heads to Kansas. Crest a roller, you see corn, crest a roller, you see corn, crest a roller, you see corn. Crest a roller, you see soy......

Just say no.

Another option is to cycle across Texas from Texarkana to El Paso, about 800 miles. The last 450 look something like this:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c1a90005ed.jpg

No climbing at all, but no descents either.

bampilot06 09-16-21 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22232966)
Another option is to cycle across Texas from Texarkana to El Paso, about 800 miles. The last 450 look something like this:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c1a90005ed.jpg

No climbing at all, but no descents either.


add trees and this would by willyburg, va

bampilot06 09-16-21 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22232938)
You might be a candidate for RAAM. Or Paris Brest Paris.


is there one from key west to the tip of maine?


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