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sensitivejonah 07-13-21 11:46 AM

rear rack no bottom eyelets
 
Any advice for mounting this rear rack? I there are screws up top, but nothing to fasten to below.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b625eae678.jpg

10 Wheels 07-13-21 11:52 AM

What bike is that?

andrewclaus 07-13-21 12:00 PM

Tubus makes an adaptor for QR hubs. You could take that idea and fabricate something. Alternatively, change the upper mount and use P-clamps on the seat stays.

sensitivejonah 07-13-21 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 22140106)
What bike is that?

It is a State 4130 Single Speed

10 Wheels 07-13-21 12:12 PM

I used one of these.
Amazon.com : Topeak MTX BeamRack Bike Mounted Rack : Sports & Outdoors
I used one.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cf188a78cb.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a9873b83f6.jpg

sensitivejonah 07-13-21 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by andrewclaus (Post 22140122)
Tubus makes an adaptor for QR hubs. You could take that idea and fabricate something. Alternatively, change the upper mount and use P-clamps on the seat stays.

Forgive me for being a newb, but it looks like the QR adapter goes through the middle of the hub. Is that true, and if so, is that hole load-bearing?

Steve B. 07-13-21 12:23 PM

P Clamps are cheap, they clamp to the seat stays (or any stays.

P-Clamps for Fender Attachment – Velo Orange (velo-orange.com)

andrewclaus 07-13-21 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by sensitivejonah (Post 22140153)
Forgive me for being a newb, but it looks like the QR adapter goes through the middle of the hub. Is that true, and if so, is that hole load-bearing?

The QR system is not load bearing in the shear direction. It's a tension device only. It clamps a hollow, shorter axle to the frame dropouts. The ends of the axle do not extend past the outside of the frame. So you can't use it for a solid axle, but one could fabricate similar adapters. As mentioned above, P-clamps are much easier if you can make the upper hardware work. Often that needs to be modified anyway.

sensitivejonah 07-13-21 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by andrewclaus (Post 22140177)
The QR system is not load bearing in the shear direction. It's a tension device only. It clamps a hollow, shorter axle to the frame dropouts. The ends of the axle do not extend past the outside of the frame. So you can't use it for a solid axle, but one could fabricate similar adapters. As mentioned above, P-clamps are much easier if you can make the upper hardware work. Often that needs to be modified anyway.

https://www.tubus.com/fileadmin/user...ner_MA_1.0.pdf Here, it looks like the QR system's rod goes through the hub and supports the weight of the rack.

andrewclaus 07-13-21 12:38 PM

Sorry, I thought you meant the weight of the bike and rider on the hub. Yes, the QR supports the rack weight, but it's a moot point since you don't have QR.

dsbrantjr 07-13-21 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Steve B. (Post 22140164)
P Clamps are cheap, they clamp to the seat stays (or any stays.

P-Clamps for Fender Attachment – Velo Orange (velo-orange.com)

also know as "Adel clamps" or MS21919 clamps; make certain that you get the kind with the corrosion-resistant steel bands, they are stronger than aluminum.

sensitivejonah 07-13-21 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by andrewclaus (Post 22140199)
Sorry, I thought you meant the weight of the bike and rider on the hub. Yes, the QR supports the rack weight, but it's a moot point since you don't have QR.

However, I do have a similar hole in my hub. I am wondering if a threaded rod and a nut/washer could work

JohnDThompson 07-13-21 02:16 PM

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P-clamps are probably the easiest way to deal with this. Make sure you get steel ones; plastic p-clamps are only strong enough for mudguards.

Alternatively, Blackburn used to make "custom eyelets" that fit in the window of the dropout. You can still find them on e.g. eBay.

I'm not fond of mounting racks on the hub axle; it makes wheel removal awkward.

dsbrantjr 07-13-21 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Steve B. (Post 22140164)
P Clamps are cheap, they clamp to the seat stays (or any stays.

P-Clamps for Fender Attachment – Velo Orange (velo-orange.com)

also know as "Adel clamps" or MS21919 clamps; make certain that you get the kind with the corrosion-resistant steel bands, they are stronger than aluminum.

Pop N Wood 07-13-21 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by sensitivejonah (Post 22140194)
https://www.tubus.com/fileadmin/user...ner_MA_1.0.pdf Here, it looks like the QR system's rod goes through the hub and supports the weight of the rack.

I've used the Adel clamps on a previous bike with good success. The fitting you link above would work as well. The other option is get a flat piece of stainless, drill a hole for the axle on one end and thread in an eyelet on the other end for the rack.

If that bike is unpainted stainless it would be pretty inexpensive to get someone to weld on an tab for a rack mount.

squirtdad 07-13-21 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 22140316)
P-clamps are probably the easiest way to deal with this. Make sure you get steel ones; plastic p-clamps are only strong enough for mudguards.

Alternatively, Blackburn used to make "custom eyelets" that fit in the window of the dropout. You can still find them on e.g. eBay.

I'm not fond of mounting racks on the hub axle; it makes wheel removal awkward.

I had a set of these once worked great. I recently made similar using m5/6 bolts, washer and plumbing rubber cones..... it OP is creative and can do a few trips to ACE it is really not that difficult to do....just fiddley

Camilo 07-13-21 04:32 PM

+1 on P clamps. Give it a try. Inexpensive, widely available locally (usually), and quick to try. More than likely will work well.

Lazyass 07-14-21 02:28 AM

P clamps from the hardware store, they should work with a rack. Wish someone made some bicycle specific ones that looked better. They'd probably sell a lot of them.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y23zs1zF/mnnnn.jpg

Miele Man 07-17-21 10:52 PM

Here's what the Blackburn rack adapters look like in real life.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8383c9e556.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5f7eb6c261.jpg

Cheers


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