Where to buy non-AXS SRAM groups?
 

I’m specifically looking for a 2x11 hydraulic force or red group, but can only find either AXS (too pricy) or Rival(too heavy). I see companies like All City selling new bikes with 1x11 Force CX hydro, but I can’t even find that anywhere.

Is SRAM taking a buy-AXS-or-nothing approach, or is my google-fu inadequate?

https://www.texascyclesport.com/sram...lphaasc&page=4

just keep in mind that axs means 12 speed and red, force or rival 22 are dieing out 11 speed.

Nothing wrong with rival axs, except it has very little availability yet, except on new 2022 bikes.

I don't think they are offering 12 speed mechanical shifting groupsets.

I don't really care if it's 11 or 12 speed, or mechanical or electronic. I care about not spending $2500 for a group. I know I can spend less for Rival AXS, but it's stupid heavy.

Force 22 mechanical rim brake

$1000
https://glorycycles.com/sram-force-2...hoCMAkQAvD_BwE

You may have read poor information posted on the internet. One early review was way off on the total weight. There's hardly any difference in the FD weight and the rear isn't much heavier. The crank's extra 100 grams or so is typical when solid aluminum crank arms are used. Shimano grx is the same way, with the cheaper 610 crank is about 100 grams heavier than the 810 series. Either of these cranks can be used with sram axs. I use the grx 48/31 to get more range than the cranks offered by sram. Force or red components can also be substituted.

Right now, it's hard to find a complete group anywhere.

For those complaining about weight, I always ask if you're racing at a high level and have your body fat down into single digits. If not, then then up to 200 grams or a half pound is trivial.

I just got a 2022 Tarmac SL7 Comp with Rival eTap AXS and like it so far. I read that its heavy but I can upgrade it over time. I wanted to use the Tarmac on my indoor trainer so I already ordered a Force cassette. Im going to install the force cassette on the bike and put the rival cassette on the Kickr Core. I don't really feel the need to upgrade the crank to force/red right now but maybe later.