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queerpunk 09-08-17 07:00 AM

oh wow. adjustable top tube. what could go wrong?

let's see though. it looks like an attempt to build a configurable superbike, mid-90s? the handlebars look like they're for a superman position, and at first I was going to suspect an O'bree Egg position was the purpose behind the others until (where's my cup of coffee?) I realized that the ones on the top tube aren't gonna steer the bike. So what the hell are they for?

topflightpro 09-08-17 07:19 AM

Maybe it is set up to add onto another bike for a make-shift tandem?

queerpunk 09-08-17 07:32 AM

but why bother, because if you convert it to a single, how's somebody supposed to ride it with that thing welded to the top tube?

unless - i'm starting to see that maybe the toptube handlebar and the seattube are bolted to the top tube? they look welded, too, but maybe that's just a skirt of some sort.

bitingduck 09-09-17 08:12 PM

Wouldn't it be cheaper to make a proper tandem and a single rather than that mess?

If you wanted to steer from the bullhorns you could have strings or a linkage to the steering bars. It wouldn't make it any weirder than it already is.

edit:
And I hope that extensible tube is keyed or ovalized. I can imagine some unpleasantness if it's round and it starts to slip.

On second inspection it looks like it would make a lousy back of a tandem because you'd be counting on the top tube for all the stiffness (lateral and vertical). It doesn't look like it's designed to bolt a downtube on the front of the BB.

carleton 09-09-17 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Poppit (Post 19845777)
Do you have the same as Planet X, Dolan, Velodrome Shop, Brooks, Wiggle, Chain Reaction, Ribble, Merlin, etc.

No.

We can order from them, but they are not local to the US. It is an international transaction.

You don't have In and Out Burger?? :D

taras0000 09-09-17 10:37 PM

There are web-order places in NA, it's just they're all mountain bike and road focused. Performancebike, nashbar, coloroadocyclist, ...

There are very few websites in NA that sell track stuff, and those that do have a very limited scope/brands. Ben's cycle is decent, and I can't think of anyone else off the top of my head. Business cycles was really good when it was around but the owner retired. Sadly, there actually used to be more track part availability 15+ years ago even though the sport was smaller then.

carleton 09-09-17 10:56 PM

Retro-gression is pretty good. They are street fixie focused, but have a good selection of race gear as well. I've ordered quite a bit from them over the years (DA cranks, a set of Zen rings, fork, accessories, etc...). My last order was maybe 6 weeks ago. Their prices are the lowest I've seen.

https://www.retro-gression.com/

It's owned by @Scrodzilla here on bikeforums.

Poppit 09-10-17 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 19851647)
No.

We can order from them, but they are not local to the US. It is an international transaction.

You don't have In and Out Burger?? :D

Had to google that, never heard of them.

What about any of the mainland Europe shops such as https://www.bike24.com/

carleton 09-10-17 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Poppit (Post 19851931)
Had to google that, never heard of them.

What about any of the mainland Europe shops such as https://www.bike24.com/

Poppit, we have large chain bicycle shops in the US like Performance Bike and Richardson Bike Mart, but they simply do not carry large selections of track racing equipment. You may see the fixie/track offering from a major manufacturer there (e.g. Specialized Langster), but you won't be able to get common race kit like: Shimano/Zen/FSA chainrings, Casco Warp 3 helmets, Mavic Ellipse, 3T Scatto, or Toshi/Velcro pedal straps.

In the US, cycling is a nice sport and track cycling is a niche within that niche sport. Living in Atlanta, which has a vibrant cycling race scene (Road, Criterium, CX, MTB, and Track) and 1 or 2 standard local bikes shop every 5-10 miles or so, track racing equipment is still hard to come by. The phrases I hear most often are, "No...we don't have that." and "We might be able to order it for you." If that's the case, I can order for myself for less money, have it here faster, and it will be delivered to my doorstep and I don't have to fight traffic to come pick up my parts. It's frustrating.

Even with such a vibrant scene, I still find myself often having to describe track racing to fellow COMPETITIVE CYCLISTS. "It's a 'VELO-drome'. It's an oval track...sorta like NASCAR. You may have seen it in the Olympics...."

brawlo 09-11-17 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by taras0000 (Post 19848033)
Whaddya guys make of this?
http://i.imgur.com/WkjLshP.png

Looking at the amount of padding or tape on those top "bars" I'm going to guess it's a bike that was used for long sessions of aero testing. The bars may be to rest the shoulders/chest on so as the position can be dialed in without fatigue affecting it too badly and the rider getting sloppy with position

queerpunk 09-11-17 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by brawlo (Post 19853694)
Looking at the amount of padding or tape on those top "bars" I'm going to guess it's a bike that was used for long sessions of aero testing. The bars may be to rest the shoulders/chest on so as the position can be dialed in without fatigue affecting it too badly and the rider getting sloppy with position

that's a good hypothesis. the whole bike seems designed around quick changes to position. can't tell about the stem, but it seems like the height of the bars can be easily changed, and the overall reach can be changed with two hex bolts. definitely a lot less work than playing with different bike sizes, changing stems, looking for different angles, etc.

seau grateau 09-11-17 04:45 PM

As it sits in the picture, it seems like the rider would need go-go Gadget arms to ride it.

700wheel 09-11-17 05:13 PM

Looks like riders might end up with bruised inner legs from the big top tube if the bike was rideable.

TDinBristol 09-12-17 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 700wheel (Post 19855263)
Looks like riders might end up with bruised inner legs from the big top tube if the bike was rideable.

It's a bike built to be used in either of the "Obree positions." Unbolt the front bars and shorten the top tube with the telescoping device, and you get the Obree "ski racer" position. Unbolt the top bars and lengthen the top tube and you have the "Superman" position. Both positions are now banned:

queerpunk 09-12-17 08:06 AM

But the bars on the top tube can't steer the bike.

TDinBristol 09-12-17 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by queerpunk (Post 19856217)
But the bars on the top tube can't steer the bike.

I'd guess there's a steering link that would set up somehow with the front of the fork - when the TT is shorter they would line up in a straight line. But there'd have to be some kind of rotation from the top bars.

700wheel 09-13-17 12:13 PM

I found this photo of an overgrown Velodrome. Anyone know where it is?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4VelnfS9uT...odromejax1.JPG

topflightpro 09-13-17 12:22 PM

Jacksonville, Fla. https://www.facebook.com/JacksonvilleVelodrome/

http://jacksonville.com/sports/outdo...side-velodrome

http://www.gravelcyclist.com/trainin...me-ride-video/

bitingduck 09-13-17 09:59 PM

LA 2028 is now official

Rumors are that they plan to build a new velodrome for it that doesn't have pillars interrupting the sight lines. It's not obvious if it would be a third LA track or replace one of the existing ones.

carleton 09-14-17 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by bitingduck (Post 19860437)
LA 2028 is now official

Rumors are that they plan to build a new velodrome for it that doesn't have pillars interrupting the sight lines. It's not obvious if it would be a third LA track or replace one of the existing ones.

Congrats!...and I'm sorry (hahaha)

The new athletic and housing facilities will be worth the temporary headache of the increased tourist traffic. Getting in and out of Atlanta was a huge PITA in 1996, but it was worth it.

topflightpro 09-14-17 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 19861050)
Congrats!...and I'm sorry (hahaha)

The new athletic and housing facilities will be worth the temporary headache of the increased tourist traffic. Getting in and out of Atlanta was a huge PITA in 1996, but it was worth it.

You know, I don't remember it being that bad. I took a trip out of town during the week, and Hartsfield wasn't too awful.

I did get a little lost driving home from the Olympic Park the night of the bombing, I was there an hour prior. This was before cell phones and my mother was at home freaking out. I didn't know anything had happened until I got home, which was well after my allowed curfew.

700wheel 09-14-17 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by bitingduck (Post 19860437)
LA 2028 is now official

Rumors are that they plan to build a new velodrome for it that doesn't have pillars interrupting the sight lines. It's not obvious if it would be a third LA track or replace one of the existing ones.

My guess is that the StubHub Center Velodrome will be used as proposed by LA
https://la.curbed.com/2016/2/18/1108...-2024-ucla-bid
As I read somewhere Paris and LA being the sole bidders they are able to make demands on the IOC rather than visa versa.
Maybe the track will need resurfacing before 2028.
Unfortunately not much room to add bleachers.

It would be nice if USAC members could have first choice on tickets.

By the way I lived in the LA area during the 84 Olympics. The 7-11 track was close to my home and work place but had no problem traveling around LA on business as long as one avoided rush hour. The 84 game venues were located over a very wide area. Of course traffic has got heavier since 84.

rensho3 09-14-17 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by bitingduck (Post 19860437)
LA 2028 is now official

Rumors are that they plan to build a new velodrome for it that doesn't have pillars interrupting the sight lines. It's not obvious if it would be a third LA track or replace one of the existing ones.

I have heard that they intend to demolish the building surrounding the track and enlarge it. It is not clear whether the track itself will be preserved or replaced. In any case, its 11 years from now, so anything is possible.

topflightpro 09-14-17 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by 700wheel (Post 19861313)
It would be nice if USAC members could have first choice on tickets.

Pretty sure first dibs are going to big corporate sponsors.

bitingduck 09-14-17 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by 700wheel (Post 19861313)
My guess is that the StubHub Center Velodrome will be used as proposed by LA
https://la.curbed.com/2016/2/18/1108...-2024-ucla-bid
As I read somewhere Paris and LA being the sole bidders they are able to make demands on the IOC rather than visa versa.
Maybe the track will need resurfacing before 2028.

Given that it's in a temp and humidity controlled building, it will likely still be in pretty good shape. Maybe a light sanding.


Unfortunately not much room to add bleachers.
According to various things I heard when it opened, I thought the layout supported adding another 1000 or so temporary seats for spectators.


It would be nice if USAC members could have first choice on tickets.
If by tickets you mean "opportunities to volunteer to make things run" that's probably true. Event tickets with seats will be another thing altogether.


The 84 game venues were located over a very wide area. Of course traffic has got heavier since 84.
I live far from the velodrome and if I'm still here in 2028 would have no trouble missing the impact of the games entirely, even though it's likely that there will be a lot going on a few miles away from me at the Rose Bowl.


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