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ovoleg 04-01-13 06:59 AM

Havent raced in about 3'ish years, moved, cant find old license. WTH?
 
So I was a Cat 4 in my old state for about 2 seasons then I opted for an upgrade and was getting dropped. Shortly after I either downgraded back to 4 or just left it at 3(don't remember). Fast forward to this year. I go to renew my license and it shows me as a cat 5. I talked to the local official dude and he is telling me he can't find anything but says if I do a few races in the 5's then he'll move me to 4(assuming I'm not ********).

Has anyone dealt with this before?

Anyways I'm considering doing a few local 5's just to re-acclimate myself and move out of the 5's.

Do you guys think I should race the 5's or just coast? I'm honestly not too excited about riding with the dangerous noobs that fill the 5's rankss.

wanders 04-01-13 07:30 AM

I would do the few 5's and see how it goes. The 4's are just as sketchy as the 5's here.

Btw, welcome back.

ovoleg 04-01-13 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by wanders (Post 15454408)
I would do the few 5's and see how it goes. The 4's are just as sketchy as the 5's here.

Btw, welcome back.

Thanks man :) I never quit cycling but I kept taking hiatuses. I'm in pretty solid shape right now so that hopefully will help

waterrockets 04-01-13 08:45 AM

I took 7 years off. When I left, there wasn't even a USAC/USCF web site. When I returned, the site had me at Cat 3, ready to renew, with my original 5-digit number.

stevemtbr 04-01-13 08:52 AM

I took 10 years off from racing 2000 to 2010 and my info was on the USA cycling web site when it came on line. Love having the 4 digit license number. Makes it much easier for us old guys to remember it.

Homebrew01 04-01-13 08:58 AM

Seems strange CUSA doesn't have your info after only 3 years. They lost mine, but it was 20 years old so I needed a new # :(

rkwaki 04-01-13 09:04 AM

Yes it happened to me. Long story short I started back in a category that I shouldn't have been in, after race 1 I was asked wtf I was doing there and put where I belong.

MDcatV 04-01-13 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by ovoleg (Post 15454279)
So I was a Cat 4 in my old state for about 2 seasons then I opted for an upgrade and was getting dropped. Shortly after I either downgraded back to 4 or just left it at 3(don't remember). Fast forward to this year. I go to renew my license and it shows me as a cat 5. I talked to the local official dude and he is telling me he can't find anything but says if I do a few races in the 5's then he'll move me to 4(assuming I'm not ********).

Has anyone dealt with this before?

Anyways I'm considering doing a few local 5's just to re-acclimate myself and move out of the 5's.

Do you guys think I should race the 5's or just coast? I'm honestly not too excited about riding with the dangerous noobs that fill the 5's rankss.

what state were you in? were they an American Cycling Association state instead of a USAC state so your license was issued by a different organization which might make tracking it down different?

Also, your story doesnt really pass the smell test. 3 years ago and you cant remember if you downgraded from cat 3 to cat 4 or just let it ride? and a cat 4 calling cat 5s dangerous noobs is pretty rich.

MDcatV 04-01-13 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by rkwaki (Post 15454747)
Yes it happened to me. Long story short I started back in a category that I shouldn't have been in, after race 1 I was asked wtf I was doing there and put where I belong.

autodowngrade sucks dude. but with practice, you'll get better.

rkwaki 04-01-13 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by MDcatV (Post 15454998)
autodowngrade sucks dude. but with practice, you'll get better.

That post is funnier then you think.

Problem was I had never been licensed in the US. I'll keep trying ;)

MDcatV 04-01-13 10:34 AM

i'm on a team that has some Canadian representation, i think they all have USAC licenses. I also have a team mate who is from El Salvador and one former team mate from Portugal, they use an international license and can pretty much race in any category with it.

A few years ago, there were some guys from Bolivia around here who were high level racers with international licenses for the bigger events and a USAC license that they used for beating up on cat 3/4 races for gas $. It was kind of odd when at a race i helped promote to hand a guy $ for his Cat 3/4 finish and then see him lined up in the P/1/2 wearing a different kit.

rkwaki 04-01-13 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by MDcatV (Post 15455141)
i'm on a team that has some Canadian representation, i think they all have USAC licenses. I also have a team mate who is from El Salvador and one former team mate from Portugal, they use an international license and can pretty much race in any category with it.

A few years ago, there were some guys from Bolivia around here who were high level racers with international licenses for the bigger events and a USAC license that they used for beating up on cat 3/4 races for gas $. It was kind of odd when at a race i helped promote to hand a guy $ for his Cat 3/4 finish and then see him lined up in the P/1/2 wearing a different kit.

Canada as a standalone uses UCI licenses whereas USAC has their license and can get an International add on. When I was planning out the year (before retirement again) the Canadian people told me I had to have the International add-on for my license if I wanted to do Nationals up there. My 1 license is a UCI Elite Whatever license and from I understand they no longer allow multiple categories (I could not race Elite and Masters) - rbart could clarify.

rbart4506 04-01-13 11:14 AM

I'm not sure about all instances, but you can have a split license up here which allows you to race Provincial O-Cup races as an Elite and as a Master at Nationals. The catch is if you race as an Elite in a UCI Elite event then you are barred from racing Master Nationals. My wife had the split license last year and raced as a 1/2 in Ontario races, a Master for the Provincial and National champs and as a 3/4 in the US...

This year she's gone straight masters and life is a bit simpler...

rkwaki 04-01-13 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by rbart4506 (Post 15455336)
I'm not sure about all instances, but you can have a split license up here which allows you to race Provincial O-Cup races as an Elite and as a Master at Nationals. The catch is if you race as an Elite in a UCI Elite event then you are barred from racing Master Nationals. My wife had the split license last year and raced as a 1/2 in Ontario races, a Master for the Provincial and National champs and as a 3/4 in the US...

This year she's gone straight masters and life is a bit simpler...

Impossible...

rbart4506 04-01-13 11:48 AM

I said a bit :)


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