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Wilbur76 05-10-21 04:18 PM

Stem with brake cable hanger built in
 
Tried searching all forums but no luck. I’m converting a vintage small Cannondale mtb into an adult bmx. Swapping the handlebars and stem to bmx style. Would anyone know a source for a new or used chrome stem that has a built in brake cable hanger that routes through the stem? Hear it was common back in the day but can’t find one anywhere online. Here’s a not so helpful pic of what I mean.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3df466956.jpeg

cbrstar 05-11-21 09:59 AM

Do you want an actual vintage stem or do you want a cheaper re-pop? There's a couple of options here.

If you want to find a authentic vintage stem: www.bmxmuseum.com It might help putting "Freestyle" as a key word as that was a freestyle modification for rotors.

Your in the US? You can buy modern re-make versions here.

Stems: Quill - BMXGuru.com

Porkchop BMX Quill Stems Old School BMX Bicycle Products

Shafted BMX Stems Archives - Americancycle.com Order BMX Bikes and BMX Parts

I'm not sure how handy you are but BITD it wasn't un common for people to drill and tap the hole themselves, and add the adjuster bolt from some old brakes. So you can spend $16 on a new one and try drilling it yourself. Or expect to spend over $100 on a vintage Suntour in good shape.

Btw the one in your picture is a combination of two different suntour stems.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ee77857254.jpg

See the stem on the left? The hole is there for the allen key to adjust the stem bolt. They took the cap off that and added it to the stem on the right.

Wilbur76 05-11-21 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by cbrstar (Post 22054704)
Do you want an actual vintage stem or do you want a cheaper re-pop? There's a couple of options here.

If you want to find a authentic vintage stem: www.bmxmuseum.com It might help putting "Freestyle" as a key word as that was a freestyle modification for rotors.

Your in the US? You can buy modern re-make versions here.

Stems: Quill - BMXGuru.com

Porkchop BMX Quill Stems Old School BMX Bicycle Products

Shafted BMX Stems Archives - Americancycle.com Order BMX Bikes and BMX Parts

I'm not sure how handy you are but BITD it wasn't un common for people to drill and tap the hole themselves, and add the adjuster bolt from some old brakes. So you can spend $16 on a new one and try drilling it yourself. Or expect to spend over $100 on a vintage Suntour in good shape.

Btw the one in your picture is a combination of two different suntour stems.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ee77857254.jpg

See the stem on the left? The hole is there for the allen key to adjust the stem bolt. They took the cap off that and added it to the stem on the right.

Great info, thanks for the pic and links! I’m not looking for vintage, just a new or used one that would do the job. Preferably cheap since I’ve got 2 other bike projects that are major refurbs.

Wilbur76 05-11-21 01:41 PM

Would this gyro part be what I should install to keep my front canti brakes or is this strictly a freestyle bmx part? This 20” mongoose is going for $20 on FB marketplace so I could get it just for that stem.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ece369df8.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7225eb2d0.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cbb7c3e56.jpeg

Rolla 05-11-21 03:49 PM

This was known as the "Potts Mod" back in the day, thanks to Steve Potts. You can find a hollow bolt for quill stems on Ebay if you want to try to use your existing stem.

Viich 05-12-21 06:09 AM

Wilbur76 - don't bother with the gyro, it wouldn't work with canti brakes anyway.

This stem from BMX Guru is exactly what you're looking for, I think.

https://www.bmxguru.com/collections/...le-w-potts-mod

Viich 05-12-21 01:18 PM

Or this one if you like the style better enough to spend the extra $$$$

https://www.americancycle.com/produc...mx-stem-retro/

cbrstar 05-12-21 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Wilbur76 (Post 22055096)
Would this gyro part be what I should install to keep my front canti brakes or is this strictly a freestyle bmx part? This 20” mongoose is going for $20 on FB marketplace so I could get it just for that stem.

Just like Vilch says it won't work with canti brakes.

I'll give you a bit of history on the Rotor.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bbbdc91ce1.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...becc8b0301.jpg

As you can see from the set up tech sheet they originally came with a hanger for the cable. But then someone realized that they could remove the hanger by drilling a hole in the stem and companies started producing them like that. Now what the Mongoose has is called a Gyro and not a rotor. Rotors were finicky to set up as you had to have a long a enough stem and have it at max height for it to work. Gyro's came along which was a much easier system and rotors started to become less popular.

Speculation but I think some MTB's must have remembered the stems that were set up for rotors and realized that you could use it to remove the brake hanger from the headset.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ccf5a09ff9.jpg

Wilbur76 05-12-21 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by cbrstar (Post 22056603)
Just like Vilch says it won't work with canti brakes.

I'll give you a bit of history on the Rotor.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bbbdc91ce1.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...becc8b0301.jpg

As you can see from the set up tech sheet they originally came with a hanger for the cable. But then someone realized that they could remove the hanger by drilling a hole in the stem and companies started producing them like that. Now what the Mongoose has is called a Gyro and not a rotor. Rotors were finicky to set up as you had to have a long a enough stem and have it at max height for it to work. Gyro's came along which was a much easier system and rotors started to become less popular.

Speculation but I think some MTB's must have remembered the stems that were set up for rotors and realized that you could use it to remove the brake hanger from the headset.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ccf5a09ff9.jpg

Whoa fantastic pics and great info! I thought my only option was the headset type brake hanger but afraid the cable would be kinked coming into it at a sharp angle. Good to see other ways to route that cable. Thanks.


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