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clubman 08-03-17 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by plympton (Post 19764860)
Newbie. Would like to find out about my old Raleigh. How do I post a picture? That insert image icon asked about a url? I just want to post a picture with my question and can't.

Respond to this with one more post and then try to upload. Larger pics are best using a 3rd party image hosting service, not Photobucket.
Look for a date code on the rear hub as well.

plympton 08-03-17 07:42 AM

So, as I have tried this forum people have asked for pictures. I just tried. I can't seem to just cut and paste so I went to "tinypics" and tried to convert to url. Now site says that I am not allowed to post picture till I have 10 posts. Hum.

plympton 08-03-17 07:44 AM

http://tinypic.com/r/1zxmy4x/9 is this an image? Too much for this senior.

nlerner 08-03-17 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by plympton (Post 19764957)
http://tinypic.com/r/1zxmy4x/9 is this an image? Too much for this senior.

That didn't work, I'm afraid. Feel free to email the pic to me if you want an assist: lerner dot n at gmail dot com

Miller72 08-03-17 07:53 AM

HUMBER '69 Can't show you though
 
Does this work?
Trying to post a picture here is a little tricky for me...

Can't post a pic until I submit ten posts?
Is that accurate?

nlerner 08-03-17 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Miller72 (Post 19764972)
Does this work?
Trying to post a picture here is a little tricky for me...

Can't post a pic until I submit ten posts?
Is that accurate?

Yes, that's right. But same offer as above. Feel free to email me the pic, and I'll post.

BigChief 08-03-17 08:28 AM

I'm glad photobucket shut off 3rd party images. Forced me to flicker which is far better than photobucket ever was. But, this forum does have an integrated image feature, but it is rather convoluted to use. Here's how it works.
click "go advanced"
Then click the little paper clip icon
then, use the browse button to select the image on your hard drive
then, upload
then shut off the dialog window and click the paper clip icon again and click "insert"
better yet, get a flicker account.

plympton 08-03-17 08:48 AM

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Attachment 574617 is this an image?

plympton 08-03-17 08:56 AM

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Some how I have done it. So there is the bike. No serial numbers anywhere I can find, seat post, bottom bracket. read drop out nor Head tube. I think (google images) it's an early Dawn Tourist. It is a one speed. all original with a bad repaint. The spokes look very zinc-y. Is Raleigh stainless steal a ferrous stainless?Attachment 574619

Miller72 08-03-17 10:33 AM

Humber '69
 
My wife's, new old bike

https://goo.gl/photos/qFSqTAvVSdRYiM9u8b

I hope this worked

-Miller CT

noglider 08-03-17 10:33 AM

They used zinc plated spokes, not stainless. Stainless came out much later.

Miller72 08-03-17 10:43 AM

No pics yet it appears
 

Originally Posted by Miller72 (Post 19765447)
My wife's, new old bike

https://goo.gl/photos/qFSqTAvVSdRYiM9u8b

I hope this worked



-Miller CT

Let's try this....

https://goo.gl/photos/cEErboDrXxzh6v6q6

BigChief 08-03-17 10:47 AM

Wow, nice, nice bike. These bikes can be hard to date because they changed so little over the years, but I can see from the steering tube lug shape that this bike was made before 1955. The pedals are 1970s replacements.

dweenk 08-03-17 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 19764753)
I'm one step closer to finishing my roadster. A perfect chain guard showed up on ebay and I nabbed it. The original was badly pitted so I used filler and a total repaint. This one has just the right amount of damage...err...patina to match the bike. Now, I just need the right mudguards. That could take a while.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4333/...28353e9e_b.jpgDL1chain guard by Billy Bones, on Flickr

I know someone who used to have a NOS pair of fenders. PM me if you are interested, and I'll call him.

Salubrious 08-03-17 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 19765449)
They used zinc plated spokes, not stainless. Stainless came out much later.

Raleigh was using stainless spokes back in the 1950s on some models. They also had stainless rims.

johnnyspaghetti 08-03-17 05:20 PM

Miller72 you put all your google pics up................I have difficulty with links pics and don't have a 9 year old kid to correct me. This lap top is over 10 yrs old. The neighbor down the street has this in there front yard, a phone pic this morning. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxu...ew?usp=sharing

plympton 08-03-17 05:37 PM

Thank you all for your help. And to BigChief, Interesting that you should say pre 1955. etched on the side of the rt pedal is a name. Not a common name. one born 1897 [too old?] and one born 1952. I would date the repaint to 1970 maybe a little earlier. With a 70's pedal I say it was purchased or given 2nd hand about then. But how old it it? When I settle in for the winter I will strip it down, find any numbers, and send the frame off for repaint. I have never rebuilt a bicycle before. Except, under the back porch of the tenement with friends in 1952. I have done other restorations. Please advice me as to the parts that I should save and those that I should expect to replace.

JohnDThompson 08-03-17 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 19766381)
Miller72 you put all your google pics up................I have difficulty with links pics and don't have a 9 year old kid to correct me. This lap top is over 10 yrs old. The neighbor down the street has this in there front yard, a phone pic this morning. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxu...ew?usp=sharing

That's a decent looking Sports. Seems a shame to have it die a slow, rusty death as a "garden bike."

treebound 08-03-17 07:15 PM

Would anyone have a cotter press that I can buy or borrow for a few days? I've got a '74 Sports with a particularly ornery cotter on the chainring side. I was able to tap out the other side with firm whacking with a slide hammer, but the sliding weight doesn't clear the chainring. So I used a rod with the crank supported on the end of a 2x4, then went over to a large plumbing vise and still no success. The cotter is peening over and beginning to bend. I now have the bearings out of the non-fixed side so the crank is now floppy, argh. I'm in Wisconsin north of Milwaukee.

nlerner 08-03-17 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 19765544)
Raleigh was using stainless spokes back in the 1950s on some models. They also had stainless rims.

Actually, I had a '37 Sports Tourist with stainless spokes, and that's also how they were described in the catalog of that year.

SirMike1983 08-03-17 08:26 PM

Absolutely - Raleigh was an early adopter of more rust-resistant steel alloys. They were indeed called "stainless", though the alloy is different from today's common stainless. The rust resistance is certainly less than today's stainless, but also certainly greater than the plain steel of that era.

Schwinn also had stainless steel rims on some of their own, more deluxe three speeds like the fillet brazed Continental and Superior bikes of the 1940s. The Schwinn stainless has much better rust resistance than the Raleigh stainless of that era.

Miller72 08-03-17 08:26 PM

Me too
 

Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 19766381)
Miller72 you put all your google pics up................I have difficulty with links pics and don't have a 9 year old kid to correct me. This lap top is over 10 yrs old. The neighbor down the street has this in there front yard, a phone pic this morning. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxu...ew?usp=sharing

Jonnyspaghetti I need a 9 year old who are we kidding LOL!
It figures I somehow posted every picture I have ever taken...I can't open/see your picture but from what I have read by others it's a beauty with potential!!

I need to go work on the picture thing

johnnyspaghetti 08-03-17 08:53 PM

I guess it opens if I rightt click a new tab. The google picture thing is not working out for me so far. I'll try again [IMG]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxu...ew?usp=sharing[/IMG]

BigChief 08-04-17 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by plympton (Post 19765146)
Some how I have done it. So there is the bike. No serial numbers anywhere I can find, seat post, bottom bracket. read drop out nor Head tube. I think (google images) it's an early Dawn Tourist. It is a one speed. all original with a bad repaint. The spokes look very zinc-y. Is Raleigh stainless steal a ferrous stainless?Attachment 574619

I just noticed one other thing. Another member here has a 1939 rod brake Raleigh. Those brakes have a return spring built into the guides. This bike has the newer design where the stirrup acts as the return spring. A clever design where the stirrup has angled legs that compress the stirrup as it is drawn upward. I don't know when this redesigned brake was introduced but I think it's safe to say this bike is post war. Since we know the frame is pre 1955, knowing the date of the new style brake would make for a closer date of manufacture for this bike. Perhaps somebody here knows.

plympton 08-04-17 06:04 AM

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The important thing about the forum is that you members notice the little things. Big Chief, I'm going to have to look into the rod brake history of early Raleigh. There is also something else wrong. The rear fender shows the white tail thru the peeling black repaint but I cannot find an image of a Raleigh with two sets of fender stays. Either this is a limited production or maybe a Schwinn fender but the white showing thru? two more pictures I have might help you find something else.[ATTACH]Attachment 574703[/ATTACH]


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