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Barry2 06-17-21 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by aplcr0331 (Post 22106863)
Whats the $20 for?

Tire Boot

A man of means!

Barry

woodcraft 06-17-21 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22106270)
I used to carry one 25 years ago. I needed it one time. I mean, REALLY needed it! Rear derailleur cable broke, leaving me in the 12 tooth cog. This was before cell phones were something you carried along on rides. I was 8 miles from home, and any route I took to get home included at least one 5 minute, 6%+ climb, which I am pretty sure I'd have had a hell of a time doing in 39x12. Broke the chain, rewrapped it somewhere mid-cassette, skipping the derailleur, and rode home.

Lesson learned - replace your cables before you think you need to, because they're cheap and it's easier than having them break on a ride.

These days, I carry a cell phone instead of a ton of tools. I have a tube, levers, patches, and a multi-tool, but no chain breaker anymore.



In that instance, you didn't need a chain tool, just a roll of tape (or a zip tie or tie off the cable, etc.).

Tape- very handy for lots of fixes.

canklecat 06-17-21 09:00 PM

Yup, both my Hero Kit multitool and Spin Doctor Rescue 16 have chain tools. Needed 'em a couple of times on group rides when friends' chains popped apart. I carry spare quick links too.

The Spin Doctor Rescue 16 chain tool is as good as my standalone shop chain tool. And the handle/screw doodad is also a very handy spoke wrench.

Lazyass 06-18-21 04:09 AM

My Crank Bros M17 has a chain breaker. I run tubulars and carry a small 2oz bottle of Stan's for punctures. The chain breaker fits the valve core so I can remove it to squirt the sealant in. Had to do that once and it saved me time by not having to swap on my spare tire.

About 3 years ago I was riding an '86 Schwinn Le Tour I had just restored. The old freewheel locked up for a split second and threw the chain off so bad that it ripped the RD off and twisted the hanger beyond repair. I cut the chain and set it up as a single speed to limp 15 miles home. It was an early Saturday morning out in the country in the middle of nowhere so I would have been screwed without it.

I also reused a Shimano chain pin like you're not supposed to do. It came apart on a ride but luckily I had a spare pin in my saddle bag. The chain breaker once again kept me from being stranded.

downhillmaster 06-18-21 05:39 AM

I used to carry a chain tool and a whole assortment of other tools and spare parts but I still never felt secure enough so now I simply carry a second bike(Dahon folder)in my backpack.
It saves me the shame of having to phone a friend or family member once every 16 years or so when a chain breaks :thumb:

shelbyfv 06-18-21 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by woodcraft (Post 22106957)
In that instance, you didn't need a chain tool, just a roll of tape (or a zip tie or tie off the cable, etc.).

Tape- very handy for lots of fixes.

Yep, breaking the chain would not be my choice. The traditional fix is to position the derailleur under the cog you want, then secure the tensioned cable under a bottle cage bolt.

sovende 06-18-21 06:08 AM

I don’t have one in every under saddle bag but I do have two “Gerber CoolTools” (the one with an adjustable wrench, hex keys, socket wrenches AND integral chain tool). They don’t seem to be in current production but saw a few on EBay. I’ll concede that the need for a chain tool is pretty unlikely and even tho I have the capability, if I have a chain issue, I’m much more likely to reach for my cell phone!

rsbob 06-18-21 09:32 AM

Only when i had a tandem. Never needed one on the road in 40 years. Used to carry a spoke truing tool for many years but have given that up too.

pdlamb 06-18-21 11:29 AM

I needed it one time on the road. I was lucky; the multitool I had in my seat bag at the time included a chain tool.

Then I figured out the cause of that problem was a gunked-up chain. I started taking better care of my chains, and stopped caring if the multitool had a chain tool.

DomaneS5 06-18-21 12:46 PM

No chain tool here. I've had several flats but never had a chain break on any of my bikes... mountain, road or gravel. If a chain ever breaks... I'll buy a new one.

rydabent 06-19-21 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Welshboy (Post 22105171)
If so, what one? I'm interested in something small enough to fit in a jersey pocket that will work on 10-speed and 11-speed chains (both with a master link). I have workshop quality chain tools at home but would like a quality chain tool for day rides and general riding. Thanks in advance.

Of course I do. There is one included in my multi tool. It is only used to get rid of a busted link, to put in a master link I carry at all times.

10 Wheels 06-19-21 10:03 AM

I do.
Never needed it.
But loaned it to friend one ride.

RChung 06-19-21 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by woodcraft (Post 22106124)
I carry one & have used it to shorten chain to single-speed after catastrophic RD events.

Been there, done that. About 20 years ago a vicious stick jumped up from the road, attacked, and ripped off my RD. I pulled out my late lamented Ritchey CPR-9 (see below), shortened the chain to a single-speed, and rode 12 miles back home. I lost that tool when my bike (with seat bag) was stolen about 5 years ago. About a year after that, I was out riding with a buddy when *he* was attacked by a vicious stick. Maybe it was the same stick. We didn't have a chain tool and his wife was out of town so he pulled his cell phone out of his pocket and ordered an Uber. I rode home.

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MNebiker 06-19-21 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by MNebiker (Post 22106376)
I've carried a small compact chain tool for 35+ years, but never used it except at home in my garage.

About 40 years ago my car broke down in the middle of nowhere at about 1 AM - a problem I could have fixed with just a Phillips screwdriver. Ever since I carry a basic tool kit in every car, and enough tools in my seat bag to insure that I won't have to walk home (And a phone and a $20 bill if all else fails.) The funny part is that I have never had a car or bike breakdown since - but the tools are still there.


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22106513)
The presence of tools could be preventing breakdowns. You can test this hypothesis by leaving them at home some time and seeing if your car or bike breaks down.....

You guys will all love this . . . .

While climbing one of the longer hills on the local bike trail this morning I snapped the chain. Pulled into the shade, got out my 35 yr-old chain tool, cut out a couple links and rode home. Earlier in the ride the rear der hung and shifted rough a couple times - I figured it was time to put it up on the stand when I got home and give it a good cleaning. Must have been the link starting to separate. I'm ordering a new KMC chain today.

But it does prove that carrying the tools does not magically prevent the problem.

woodcraft 06-19-21 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by RChung (Post 22108878)
Been there, done that. About 20 years ago a vicious stick jumped up from the road, attacked, and ripped off my RD. I pulled out my late lamented Ritchey CPR-9 (see below), shortened the chain to a single-speed, and rode 12 miles back home. I lost that tool when my bike (with seat bag) was stolen about 5 years ago. About a year after that, I was out riding with a buddy when *he* was attacked by a vicious stick. Maybe it was the same stick. We didn't have a chain tool and his wife was out of town so he pulled his cell phone out of his pocket and ordered an Uber. I rode home.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...32dcf186d8.png



IKR, I would hate to lose mine.

One disconnected from a Crank Bros tool is only about 10g more, 'tho...

It depends on the type of riding being done, but these days folks are getting off the pavement more, & the odds of vicious stick encounters goes up.


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cyccommute 06-19-21 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by RChung (Post 22108878)
Been there, done that. About 20 years ago a vicious stick jumped up from the road, attacked, and ripped off my RD. I pulled out my late lamented Ritchey CPR-9 (see below), shortened the chain to a single-speed, and rode 12 miles back home. I lost that tool when my bike (with seat bag) was stolen about 5 years ago. About a year after that, I was out riding with a buddy when *he* was attacked by a vicious stick. Maybe it was the same stick. We didn't have a chain tool and his wife was out of town so he pulled his cell phone out of his pocket and ordered an Uber. I rode home.

I have a purple one. PM me and it’s yours.

PeteHski 06-20-21 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by DomaneS5 (Post 22107782)
If a chain ever breaks... I'll buy a new one.

I think you missed the point here, lol. If your chain ever does break while out on a ride, unless you are lucky enough to be right next to a bike shop, you will be walking back.

RChung 06-20-21 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 22109588)
I have a purple one. PM me and it’s yours.

Thanks. You should hold on to it--it's a classic. Purple is cool.

tkamd73 06-20-21 07:44 AM

Nope, I consider that a shop tool. Haven’t had a chain issue in 60 years of riding. Then again, my largest rear cluster is a 7 speed, and chains made for 7 or less gears are pretty robust.
Tim

rsbob 06-20-21 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by PeteHski (Post 22109647)
I think you missed the point here, lol. If your chain ever does break while out on a ride, unless you are lucky enough to be right next to a bike shop, you will be walking back.

Not if you have a mobile phone/reception, a friend and/ or a AAA card.

(Exclusions apply: Mountain and Gravel riders may not be covered unless near access roads, so they should carry a full tool kit. Batteries not included, not available in all areas, limit one per customer, definite statements are basically poop <- just like that one).

philbob57 06-20-21 03:08 PM

Sure. In 1980, my chain broke and all I needed was a tool to go on. Instead, because I only had dollar bills and wasn't near a bike store, and because I didn't have a lock with me (and didn't want to lock my new-to-me bike anyway,I had to beg some change from a passer-by, walk my bike until I found a pay phone, and call my wife for a ride home. Wasted most of a beautiful Sunday afternoon.

I have the space to carry a chain tool, and I probably lose more weight on rides than the tool itself weighs, so why not?

Gresp15C 06-20-21 04:44 PM

A benefit of being old is that I know what's likely to happen when I'm on a ride. Including the things I'm not strong enough to break. ;)

No chain tool. I do bring a few more tools when it's a family group ride, because then the likelihood of a mechanical is multiplied by the number of bikes.

An old Cyclo Rivoli isn't that much to carry.

PeteHski 06-20-21 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 22109906)
Not if you have a mobile phone/reception, a friend and/ or a AAA card.

(Exclusions apply: Mountain and Gravel riders may not be covered unless near access roads, so they should carry a full tool kit. Batteries not included, not available in all areas, limit one per customer, definite statements are basically poop <- just like that one).

Yeah I always make sure my friends are available to pick me up whenever I go riding. Or alternatively I just carry a tiny multi-tool that happens to include a chain tool. They also come in handy at home for shortening new chains etc. I wouldn't bother with a standalone chain tool as I don't use them often enough. The one on my Topeak multi-tool is pretty effective anyway. I wouldn't say it's an essential riding item, but it's a no-brainer to buy a multi-tool that includes one.

wolfchild 06-20-21 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 22109906)
Not if you have a mobile phone/reception, a friend and/ or a AAA card.

I would much rather carry a chain tool and fix a broken chain then rely on my cell phone to call somebody to pick me up. It feels good to be self sufficient.

PeteHski 06-20-21 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 22110414)
I would much rather carry a chain tool and fix a broken chain then rely on my cell phone to call somebody to pick me up. It feels good to be self sufficient.

+1
I would just feel like an ******* having to call someone to pick me up because I couldn't be bothered to carry some very simple tools. For me the bare minimum to avoid the call of shame is a compact multi-tool, chain quick-link, valve core, tube & pump.


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