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adventurepdx 11-29-16 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by ollo_ollo (Post 19220300)
This 3 speed has been hanging out on the Portland, OR CL for a few months, asking $300:

"OK first things first..this Bicycle looks like it just came off the showroom floor! This made in Norway DBS or (Den Beste Sykkel) translated The Best Bicycle... all original down the the tires and equipped with a Torpedo Sachs made in west germany 3 speed... DBS is in excellent condition and rides beautifully. It has dual brakes... coaster brake and Front Drum brake. Front and rear lights are generator activated and work great. Standover height is 30.5 inches. Thanks for looking Mark Local Pick up only"

Yeah, that bike has been there for awhile, and for that price, will be there for awhile! From what I've read, the DBS bikes (or Norwegian bikes from this era) were below what you'd find in the UK, France, Germany, Austria, or Italy. It is interesting that it has a front drum brake. My roommate has a women's version of this same bike in the basement which needs work. I think they used 650B tires. Also note the one piece crank.

ollo_ollo 11-29-16 11:01 PM

There was also a fairly good looking late 50's-early60's, 3 spd, ladies Schwinn Traveler for only $25 in Vancouver for a while, but expired now. When it 1st showed up, I suggested overhauling it for Mrs. ollo, but she wasn't even a little bit interested. Looked to have good blue paint & nice decals too. Don

thumpism 11-30-16 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ollo_ollo (Post 19221898)
When it 1st showed up, I suggested overhauling it for Mrs. ollo, but she wasn't even a little bit interested.

Yeah, it's a shame when they don't appreciate what you're trying to do for them. I have a nice little Raleigh Sports in the garage that I saved from a snowdrift in a friend's yard and it's now ready to ride. Been ridden? Nope.

Now.
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ollo_ollo 11-30-16 06:31 PM

Very nice! I think it's a male/female thing, or, as one of my grand daughters remarked about a drop bar road bike I gave her a few years ago, "They're not in style anymore". I don't get it, tons of style in my book. Don

DQRider 11-30-16 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 19222793)
Yeah, it's a shame when they don't appreciate what you're trying to do for them. I have a nice little Raleigh Sports in the garage that I saved from a snowdrift in a friend's yard and it's now ready to ride. Been ridden? Nope.

Man, I wonder how many fathers go through this. :foo:

A winter's worth of love went into this `67 Dunelt. But when Spring came along, and I presented this to my then 16 year-old daughter, she told me it was too "old and rickety" for her. This, after I built up an alloy front wheel for better braking, repacked the bottom bracket and headset with new balls, tuned it and tweaked it and devised a front basket setup strong enough to carry her considerable load of camera equipment on those creamy new Schwalbe tires. All for naught.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2hafl1eu.png

So I traded it for a Raysport 531 Turismo frame, and I'm building that into the ultimate British-style Light Roadster. She's saving for a car... :twitchy:

BigChief 11-30-16 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by DQRider (Post 19224018)
Man, I wonder how many fathers go through this. :foo:

A winter's worth of love went into this `67 Dunelt. But when Spring came along, and I presented this to my then 16 year-old daughter, she told me it was too "old and rickety" for her. This, after I built up an alloy front wheel for better braking, repacked the bottom bracket and headset with new balls, tuned it and tweaked it and devised a front basket setup strong enough to carry her considerable load of camera equipment on those creamy new Schwalbe tires. All for naught.

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2hafl1eu.png

So I traded it for a Raysport 531 Turismo frame, and I'm building that into the ultimate British-style Light Roadster. She's saving for a car... :twitchy:

That is gorgeous! Beautifully done. You didn't even mention the corrected gearing. Old and rickety? Ouch

elcraft 11-30-16 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by crank_addict (Post 19216213)
Recently spotted these split designed tubes. Might be ideal for three speeds and rod-brake / caliper types. I realize one could still patch without complete wheel removal or use a goop sealant but for complete tube change, these look interesting.

http://assets.academy.com/mgen/70/10571970.jpg

Where did you spot these tubes?

agmetal 12-01-16 11:06 AM

I still need to order a bunch of parts, and some of what's shown is stuff that I'm only using to help visualize things, but here are a couple progress shots of my ANT roadster project, compared to my 1937 Raleigh that I'm modeling it after:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...129_231431.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...129_231410.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...129_231329.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...926_143723.jpg

crank_addict 12-01-16 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by elcraft (Post 19224084)
Where did you spot these tubes?

Walmart and Meijer, though odd they don't show them at their online stores. Called Huffy Quick change inner tube. Walmart store had them priced approx. $8, double the standard inner tube cost.

adventurepdx 12-01-16 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by ollo_ollo (Post 19223698)
Very nice! I think it's a male/female thing, or, as one of my grand daughters remarked about a drop bar road bike I gave her a few years ago, "They're not in style anymore". I don't get it, tons of style in my book. Don

I don't think it's necessarily a male/female thing, or a young/old thing. Some people just don't appreciate "old" things and wonder why you are wasting all this time fixing up an old bike when you can go down to Wal-Targ and get a brand new one.

And some folks like the "idea" of having/riding a bike, as long as it's just an idea. When the idea presents itself as reality, then all the sudden they have second thoughts.

scale 12-01-16 09:44 PM

Getting ready to order spokes for my Superbe. Are they the standard 14ga that i want? Danscomp has them for .25 each which is a great deal but im not sure if that is the correct gauge. I ordered them once before but they only take phone orders and cant recall what i ordered the last time. Here is what im looking at currently. https://www.danscomp.com/products/43...14G_Spoke.html

gster 12-02-16 05:53 AM

Nice bike, but $1500!!!
 
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A local Kijiji ad has this BSA listed at a massive $!500.00. I doubt he'l get many calls...

bazil4696 12-02-16 09:19 AM

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[QUOTE=DQRider;19224018]Man, I wonder how many fathers go through this. :foo:

A winter's worth of love went into this `67 Dunelt. But when Spring came along, and I presented this to my then 16 year-old daughter, she told me it was too "old and rickety" for her. This, after I built up an alloy front wheel for better braking, repacked the bottom bracket and headset with new balls, tuned it and tweaked it and devised a front basket setup strong enough to carry her considerable load of camera equipment on those creamy new Schwalbe tires. All for naught.



My 22 yr old daughter and I restored this Superbe. She worked about two or three hours on it, and the other 40 by me.. but rides it from time to time, even going with me on a wine tour this summer.
She plans to get her friends and borrow some of the vintage fleet off me so the girls can all go...
At least it's not sports cars!

clubman 12-02-16 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 19226676)
A local Kijiji ad has this BSA listed at a massive $!500.00. I doubt he'l get many calls...

Not even that nice, missing parts. substitute parts etc. Where's the gorgeous fork crown?
$50 imo

gster 12-02-16 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 19227898)
Not even that nice, missing parts. substitute parts etc. Where's the gorgeous fork crown?
$50 imo

yeah, I agree.
I'm always on the look out for a nice BSA to add to the stable but you're right.
Even the pump is worthless..
There's a lot of wishful thinkers out there.

clubman 12-02-16 03:34 PM

In good condition, the Lucas King of the Road Challis bell is worth $50 to the right buyer.

badmother 12-03-16 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by ollo_ollo (Post 19220300)
This 3 speed has been hanging out on the Portland, OR CL for a few months, asking $300:

"OK first things first..this Bicycle looks like it just came off the showroom floor! This made in Norway DBS or (Den Beste Sykkel) translated The Best Bicycle... all original down the the tires and equipped with a Torpedo Sachs made in west germany 3 speed... DBS is in excellent condition and rides beautifully. It has dual brakes... coaster brake and Front Drum brake. Front and rear lights are generator activated and work great. Standover height is 30.5 inches. Thanks for looking Mark Local Pick up only"

The stem on this bike is not original. It is missing its rear rack. The crank is a "Fauber crank", different from other similar cranks and common all over scandinavia in those days. They all had that drum brake.

The expert is here: Restureringsverksted 1890 - 1990 : Den Rustne Eike

BigChief 12-03-16 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by badmother (Post 19228851)
The stem on this bike is not original. It is missing its rear rack. The crank is a "Fauber crank", different from other similar cranks and common all over scandinavia in those days. They all had that drum brake.

The expert is here: Restureringsverksted 1890 - 1990 : Den Rustne Eike

I recognize that stem. It's an extra long SunLite. Very handy. You can use them to set up a smaller framed bike for taller people. Even with it's extra length, it looks like it's set a bit past max to me.

Loose Chain 12-03-16 10:54 AM

Oddly, my 21 inches Raleighs and my two 23 inch frames have the same top tube length. Not only that, one of my 21s, my coffee colored coffee cruiser, is 1/3 inch longer in the top tube than either of my 23 inch frames. But I would like to get one of those Sunlight stems with a little more reach.

I am normal sized, but fore and aft, I feel a little scrunched on these E3S bikes.

BigChief 12-03-16 11:26 AM

Oh yeah, the SunLite stem is the way to go if you're tall and want to ride a 21" bike. They make a 10" long 21.1mm touring stem that also gives you about 2" more reach. The clamp is for 1" bars and Raleigh bars are 15/16" so you need a 1/32" shim if you're going to use the original bars. I think soft metal like copper work best. Lately, I've been using lead chimney flashing. I keep hammering it down and trimming the sides until I get a nice fit. Works great, never slips.

Loose Chain 12-03-16 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 19229388)
Oh yeah, the SunLite stem is the way to go if you're tall and want to ride a 21" bike. They make a 10" long 21.1mm touring stem that also gives you about 2" more reach. The clamp is for 1" bars and Raleigh bars are 15/16" so you need a 1/32" shim if you're going to use the original bars. I think soft metal like copper work best. Lately, I've been using lead chimney flashing. I keep hammering it down and trimming the sides until I get a nice fit. Works great, never slips.


Thanks, good info.I have some copper and brass shim material. These can be bought a machine tool type and mechanics shops. I think I will look into one.

But, like I said, the 21 inch bike is bigger than the 23, I am not sure why Raleigh bothered with sizes because raising or lowering the top tube without lengthening or shortening the top tube is not a different size bike frame, it is just the same size bike frame with a lower or higher choice of top tubes. Weird. I prefer the 21 with the linger top tube, feels better.

SirMike1983 12-03-16 08:18 PM

This 1941 Schwinn roadster had been stripped of its parts. I bought the bike because I had a bunch of 1940s-era parts for it. I bought the handful of things I needed to finish it. Before and after:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AUY0IbSSL...ect%2B2016.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HJfVqDdHh...203_153504.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-r7xpDcLEg...203_153603.jpghttps://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uP_FaZPmu...203_150401.jpghttps://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F-o5Qnmjb...203_153515.jpg

DQRider 12-03-16 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 19230187)
This 1941 Schwinn roadster had been stripped of its parts. I bought the bike because I had a bunch of 1940s-era parts for it. I bought the handful of things I needed to finish it. Before and after:



https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F-o5Qnmjb...203_153515.jpg

What an excellent build! Congratulations. :thumb: I really like that SA quadrant shifter on the top tube. I've got that same Banjo Bro.s saddlebag on 4 of my bikes. They fit right in on a vintage bike, and you can't beat them for the $.

How does it ride?

ollo_ollo 12-03-16 08:52 PM

"She worked about two or three hours on it, and the other 40 by me.."
That's actually a pretty good division of labor for kids/grand kids. :) Don

BigChief 12-03-16 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 19230187)
This 1941 Schwinn roadster had been stripped of its parts. I bought the bike because I had a bunch of 1940s-era parts for it. I bought the handful of things I needed to finish it. Before and after:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AUY0IbSSL...ect%2B2016.jpg
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HJfVqDdHh...203_153504.jpg
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-r7xpDcLEg...203_153603.jpghttps://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uP_FaZPmu...203_150401.jpghttps://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F-o5Qnmjb...203_153515.jpg

Wow, great job. Glad this frame found it's way to someone that could do a quality restoration like this.


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