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WhyFi 07-28-20 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21611160)
I've recently discovered how difficult it is to ride intervals well. Surprising just how fast my heart rate drops with even the slightest decrease in incline. I tried some 20' Z3 intervals yesterday and with the longer length I also found myself getting distracted and not paying attention to what I was doing.

Yup. With power, that change is more immediately noticed and to keep the same power you'll often find yourself going far faster than you typically might. If I'm in that 90% region, a little bit of a decline will have me flirting with 30 mph pretty quickly.

Bah Humbug 07-28-20 08:11 AM

So I clicked the family text thread when I got back from my ride to discover that my uncle (who was in poor health to start with) is in the hospital with pneumonia in both lungs. Again, because it happened last year as well.

****

MoAlpha 07-28-20 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21611153)

Oh yeah. Everyone used to have those, but I never saw any good evidence they worked and if you had them in contact with the tire, they whined annoyingly and wore out.

phrantic09 07-28-20 08:13 AM

I tried some intervals yesterday and found I suck at maintaining consistent power. It was also super windy, which made it twice as hard. What was most interesting is intervals.icu showed a drop in overall fitness after a somewhat hard-ish effort. So confused. My knee is killing me today, I need a fit but can't get one because of COVID. I'm 99.999999% certain it's cleat float and placement, but would like a pro to truly dial me in. Everything else feels great.

MoAlpha 07-28-20 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21611177)
So I clicked the family text thread when I got back from my ride to discover that my uncle (who was in poor health to start with) is in the hospital with pneumonia in both lungs. Again, because it happened last year as well.

****

Ohhh. Not good. Sorry and best wishes.

WhyFi 07-28-20 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21611165)
Yes, that's what it is.

I find outdoor efforts much easier than indoor. I think it's mainly the richer sensory feedback. Descents are obviously an issue, but I can avoid the big ones and bring up the mean power by pushing it on the uphills. I'm sure purists would be aghast, but it has real-world validity.

Yeah, I think that it's easier to get in good efforts outside, and I think that my outdoor power is better than indoors, it's just that I have a hard time laying down a representative effort. I wish that I had some longer, gradual inclines in my area, or even short, steady pitches, but it's hard for me to find any place where I could plug away for more than 5 minutes without much thought or adjustment.

WhyFi 07-28-20 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21611177)
So I clicked the family text thread when I got back from my ride to discover that my uncle (who was in poor health to start with) is in the hospital with pneumonia in both lungs. Again, because it happened last year as well.

****

:(

genejockey 07-28-20 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by gnome (Post 21610682)
I haven't had sauerkraut in a while. Nor cabbage. I prefer Brussel Sprouts.

I'm a big fan of all the cruciferous veggies, but everybody loves broccoli!

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MoAlpha 07-28-20 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 21611182)
I tried some intervals yesterday and found I suck at maintaining consistent power. It was also super windy, which made it twice as hard. What was most interesting is intervals.icu showed a drop in overall fitness after a somewhat hard-ish effort. So confused. My knee is killing me today, I need a fit but can't get one because of COVID. I'm 99.999999% certain it's cleat float and placement, but would like a pro to truly dial me in. Everything else feels great.

I started doing intervals in college x-c. We went to the track and did the distance at a pace we thought would get us through the set and the coach would occasionally tell us to speed it up or slow it down. I think it's almost impossible to use a smoothed, delayed, data stream, like power, for tight feedback. I just go and glance at the numbers occasionally as a check. I think you get pretty good at estimating the target effort and you put in a better performance if you're not constantly trying to adjust your pace.

abshipp 07-28-20 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21611176)
Yup. With power, that change is more immediately noticed and to keep the same power you'll often find yourself going far faster than you typically might. If I'm in that 90% region, a little bit of a decline will have me flirting with 30 mph pretty quickly.

I learned that very thing as well, recently. Traditional road bike gearing was making a lot more sense to me, as JRA a 46/12 is plenty of gear, but I was using a lot more of the cassette than I thought I would on the shiny bike with a 52 up front.

Also, around here they like to spread a layer of gravel over the paved country roads, I guess so that as it breaks down it naturally fills in the depressions. Going way faster than I usually do on these corners is a bit frightening since the gravel likes to hang out there :twitchy:

Velo Vol 07-28-20 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21610904)
That's the one thing I'm sure we can count on; nothing will be properly planned. MLB is all over bar the shouting. NFL will get cancelled during training camp, probably the first week. Do I maintain hope that cycling can proceed?

The problem with COVID is it's too serious of an illness for the powers-that-be to say "you're on your own" (like influenza), but it's not serious enough to make a wide swath of the population fearful of catching it. So we're stuck in no-man's land from a public health standpoint.

phrantic09 07-28-20 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21611177)
So I clicked the family text thread when I got back from my ride to discover that my uncle (who was in poor health to start with) is in the hospital with pneumonia in both lungs. Again, because it happened last year as well.

****

Sorry to hear that

phrantic09 07-28-20 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21611202)
I started doing intervals in college x-c. We went to the track and did the distance at a pace we thought would get us through the set and the coach would occasionally tell us to speed it up or slow it down. I think it's almost impossible to use a smoothed, delayed, data stream, like power, for tight feedback. I just go and glance at the numbers occasionally as a check. I think you get pretty good at estimating the target effort and you put in a better performance if you're not constantly trying to adjust your pace.

Back when I could run pain free and it was my primary sport, I was really disciplined about intervals, tempo runs, LSD, etc. Also most of that was training on pace and HR, not much else.

Velo Vol 07-28-20 08:41 AM


MoAlpha 07-28-20 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 21611222)
Back when I could run pain free and it was my primary sport, I was really disciplined about intervals, tempo runs, LSD, etc. Also most of that was training on pace and HR, not much else.

Exactly.

BillyD 07-28-20 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 21610976)
It was 78 degrees when I woke up an hour ago. Where the hell am I, Texas?


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 21611001)
We’re at our house in MA today, it was 97 here yesterday and was 83 when I woke up.

That's some serious summering there. I wonder what [MENTION=25227]Velo Vol[/MENTION] thinks.

Velo Vol 07-28-20 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 21611260)
That's some serious summering there. I wonder what [MENTION=25227]Velo Vol[/MENTION] thinks.

Nope.


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datlas 07-28-20 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21611177)
So I clicked the family text thread when I got back from my ride to discover that my uncle (who was in poor health to start with) is in the hospital with pneumonia in both lungs. Again, because it happened last year as well.

****


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21611183)
Ohhh. Not good. Sorry and best wishes.

Ditto

phrantic09 07-28-20 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21611269)

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BillyD 07-28-20 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 21611135)
We have lots of extra water. Swollen creeks, washed out roads, etc...

Meanwhile the storm front we had a 60% chance of getting a couple hours ago has now totally fallen apart. :mad: :crash:

BillyD 07-28-20 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21611153)

Heh, those were the days . . . .

phrantic09 07-28-20 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 21611282)
Meanwhile the storm front we had a 60% chance of getting a couple hours ago has now totally fallen apart. :mad: :crash:

We got hit back home this AM. I may have to mow now.

rjones28 07-28-20 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21611177)
So I clicked the family text thread when I got back from my ride to discover that my uncle (who was in poor health to start with) is in the hospital with pneumonia in both lungs. Again, because it happened last year as well.

****

:(

BillyD 07-28-20 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21611177)
So I clicked the family text thread when I got back from my ride to discover that my uncle (who was in poor health to start with) is in the hospital with pneumonia in both lungs. Again, because it happened last year as well.

****

Sorry to hear.

Trsnrtr 07-28-20 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21611179)
Oh yeah. Everyone used to have those...

Those and a Multito.


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