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carleton 06-16-16 12:59 AM

2016 Olympic Equipment
 
I imagine that lots of new equipment will show up at the Olympics in a couple of months. A lot of it is starting to show up on the web. Feel free to post (or repost) what you find here.

SprintzNKiloz 06-16-16 10:37 AM

I have a sweet pic somewhere of the "new" LOOK that is allegedly just the OLD LOOK with no paint. Once I find it I'll post.

gycho77 06-16-16 02:40 PM

Planet x five spoke wheel(585g)- I am not sure this will be stiff enough for sprinters, because it's only 585g.
Planet X 5 Spoke Full Carbon Aero Track Front Wheel | Planet X
Planet x disc wheel
Planet X Carbon Rear Disc Wheel Track or Road | Planet X

I would rather buy Navigator N5 and disc wheel.
I think Navigator has better price, but they are all sold out.....

700wheel 06-16-16 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18850574)
Planet x five spoke wheel(585g)- I am not sure this will be stiff enough for sprinters, because it's only 585g.
Planet X 5 Spoke Full Carbon Aero Track Front Wheel | Planet X
Planet x disc wheel
Planet X Carbon Rear Disc Wheel Track or Road | Planet X
.....

I wonder how the Planet rear wheel fits both road and track hub widths.

The planet front wheel appears to lack a serrated nut on one side.

Baby Puke 06-16-16 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by 700wheel (Post 18851176)
I wonder how the Planet rear wheel fits both road and track hub widths.

The planet front wheel appears to lack a serrated nut on one side.

Wait, are these being used by somebody in the Olympics??

gycho77 06-16-16 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Puke (Post 18851324)
Wait, are these being used by somebody in the Olympics??

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=527654
Maybe

carleton 06-16-16 09:15 PM

I knew gycho would have some goodies. He's like an internet journalist. Thanks, man!

carleton 06-16-16 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 18850574)
Planet x five spoke wheel(585g)- I am not sure this will be stiff enough for sprinters, because it's only 585g.
Planet X 5 Spoke Full Carbon Aero Track Front Wheel | Planet X
Planet x disc wheel
Planet X Carbon Rear Disc Wheel Track or Road | Planet X

I would rather buy Navigator N5 and disc wheel.
I think Navigator has better price, but they are all sold out.....

Navigator has proper track hubs with 15mm nuts. PlanetX uses road hubs and skewers. There's no way in hell I'd use a disc on the track using a skewer.

They are road wheels that they are selling in the track section on the website. Weak.

Godsight 06-16-16 09:30 PM

I am dubious of the Planet X 5 spoke weight. A Mavic IO weights (the rio version) 750 grams and both the spoke and the rim are shallower on the Mavic than the Planet X. Meanwhile a front Mavic Ksyrium pro carbon tubular front wheel is 515 grams.

gycho77 06-16-16 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 18851400)
I knew gycho would have some goodies. He's like an internet journalist. Thanks, man!

haha Thanks.
I am fast, but I am good at looking up stuffs.


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 18851405)
Navigator has proper track hubs with 15mm nuts. PlanetX uses road hubs and skewers. There's no way in hell I'd use a disc on the track using a skewer.

They are road wheels that they are selling in the track section on the website. Weak.

Maybe it comes with track axels, but I pretty sure nobody is going to buy Planet X disc wheel over Navigator.
I hope Navigator starts selling their rear disc wheel and front 5 spoke wheel(tubular) again

TrackMonkey7 06-17-16 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 18851405)
Navigator has proper track hubs with 15mm nuts. PlanetX uses road hubs and skewers. There's no way in hell I'd use a disc on the track using a skewer.

I'm a little bit confused by the page; they say the hub has a "Swapable axle from QR to track nut", yet the image of the track axle conversion quite clearly shows no threads for any sort of nuts. I would be amazed if Planet X lacked the common sense to make sure to use axle nuts on a track wheel. The front wheel meanwhile, looks to only be skewer compatible but they'll provide you with a locking skewer if you're getting a track version.


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 18851405)
They are road wheels that they are selling in the track section on the website. Weak.

+1, I once again wish that track products that these companies provide weren't simply road products adapted for track. What's so hard about putting a proper track axle on in the first place?

As a side note, those front wheels look to be similar if not from the same mold as the FFWD Five-T. While I'm sure the shape is fine, if a bit sail-like and hard to handle on blowy outdoor tracks, it differs considerably in appearance from the five spoke in the background of the instagram video that @gycho77 provided. That five spoke looked to have proportions more similar to the Mavic iO. Perhaps Planet X has some nicer wheels than we're seeing in the pipeline?

krusty 06-18-16 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by TrackMonkey7 (Post 18853785)
I'm a little bit confused by the page; they say the hub has a "Swapable axle from QR to track nut", yet the image of the track axle conversion quite clearly shows no threads for any sort of nuts. I would be amazed if Planet X lacked the common sense to make sure to use axle nuts on a track wheel. The front wheel meanwhile, looks to only be skewer compatible but they'll provide you with a locking skewer if you're getting a track version.



+1, I once again wish that track products that these companies provide weren't simply road products adapted for track. What's so hard about putting a proper track axle on in the first place?

As a side note, those front wheels look to be similar if not from the same mold as the FFWD Five-T. While I'm sure the shape is fine, if a bit sail-like and hard to handle on blowy outdoor tracks, it differs considerably in appearance from the five spoke in the background of the instagram video that @gycho77 provided. That five spoke looked to have proportions more similar to the Mavic iO. Perhaps Planet X has some nicer wheels than we're seeing in the pipeline?

Could they not get away with using something like Corima, with the Mavic Track bolts and an internal thread?

Poppit 06-19-16 05:52 AM

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GB Rio shoes. Boa mounted under the sole! Custom moulded for each rider.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=528063

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=528064

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=528065

queerpunk 06-19-16 08:42 AM

As if Boas weren't fragile enough - walk on 'em!

Bulldogsprinter 06-19-16 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Poppit (Post 18855720)

It's not a Boa, it's Sidis version. They're somewhat better.

carleton 06-19-16 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Poppit (Post 18855720)

I think that's an improvement. I really think there might be improvments for "sprint" shoes if the shoe laces/straps mounted at the carbon base of the shoe and wrapped over to at attached to the carbon base on the other side of the shoe.

This design is similar, but for a different reason. It seems that the rationale is to be more aero by hiding the buckle.

carleton 06-19-16 02:09 PM

I think that the upstroke is in the "1% incremental gains" area for TT riders and in a 10-20% gains area for standing starts for sprinters. I understand that studies have shown that most elite athletes push most of the time, but the upstroke is still important. I mean, if you are gonna do (or wish to do) wind tunnel testing and what not. Why not make sure that your attachment to your bike is as free from loss as possible?

The first second or two of a 500M, kilo, team sprint, match sprint jump, etc... are key to the effort.

Then there is the lack of aerodynamic consideration of (most) shoes.

If you are specializing in time trials. Your legs and feet make a lot of turbulence that is slowing you down. These convenient straps aren't helping:

http://i.imgur.com/n3j96vR.jpg

They may be easy to reach and adjust if you are on a 3 hour road ride and your feet are swelling and you want to adjust them while riding. But, on the track, that's not something you can do. So, why take the aero "penalty" (drag) of the ridges from the velcro straps that churn up the air 120 times/minute? So, if you are into time trials (road, enduro, or sprint) don't choose shoes like this.

I dig what others are doing with having smooth tops.

gtrob 06-20-16 02:04 PM

Love the CF tub shoes. I think there could be a more 'reliable' design there but really they only need to last a weekend (or less). I could see bont maybe doing a mainstream version like that.

Cervelo has finally revealed the T5. I got a 'peak' of it pieces of it a couple months back and was told not to breath a word of it, like it was some secret that they would be coming out with SOMETHING to replace the 8 year old T4 frame they had GB riding up until now. I mean they signed with the team that notoriously spends the most money possible...

https://www.cervelo.com/en-ca/track/t-series/t5gb

The T5 (albeit a Taiwan built version with cheaper materials) will be available shortly after the games to meet the peak in track bike demands on Olympic years.


Although how slow that bike must be with the crank on right side! :crash:

Flatballer 06-20-16 03:11 PM

Those carbon shoes look incredibly uncomfortable. But I guess for a few minutes at a time it doesn't matter much. They certainly look fast (if ugly).

Poppit 06-22-16 12:54 AM

Apparently $2000 a pair

brawlo 06-22-16 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Flatballer (Post 18859036)
Those carbon shoes look incredibly uncomfortable. But I guess for a few minutes at a time it doesn't matter much. They certainly look fast (if ugly).

They're custom molded to each rider. There's possibly nothing that's more comfortable!

On another note, the Cervelo sprint bike no longer appears to be the "flavour of the month"

Flatballer 06-22-16 06:42 PM

Molded won't help if the inside is just bare carbon.

taras0000 06-22-16 07:00 PM

The reason for padding inside shoes is to distribute the pressure of the closing mechanism (laces, straps, ratchets, boas...). If a bare carbon shoe is custom molded, it will distribute pressure evenly across the whole top, bottom, or side of the foot. Better fit means less padding is needed. A perfect custom fit virtually eliminates the need for padding. At most you would need a slim sock to accomodate the small movements of the foot as you pedal.

Adam Hansen has ridden shoes just like this for the length of the Tour de France. In fact, he makes them for himself. At that level, he could ride any pair he wants, but chooses a design like this.

carleton 06-23-16 01:02 AM

I just googled and found this: Le Tour Tech: Adam Hansen?s shoes, computers, mattresses and more | CyclingTips

gycho77 06-28-16 07:11 PM

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/other/olympic-track-cyclists-get-secret-weapon-kiwi-yacht-builders

New disc wheel, but looks like Mavic Comete


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