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paulb_in_bkln 04-04-18 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 20263030)
I have $40 not much more but I do.

To illustrate market differences: early 60s men's Rudge, good shape for an old bike but hardly cherry, going off hereabouts for $150. And I'm considering it.

paulb_in_bkln 04-04-18 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 20261979)
Pigseye is the region minniapolis/St.paul then bigger before they had county's

My nephew has move there recently. I wonder if he knows this yet?

thumpism 04-04-18 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 20263518)
Only one?

Well, obviously everybody needs more than one. I have the one that I got for free and I swore I'd hold off for a better deal on every subsequent one.

johnnyspaghetti 04-04-18 07:09 AM

The Red river flows north

thumpism 04-04-18 07:10 AM

Cryptic, yet revealing.

johnnyspaghetti 04-04-18 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 20263518)
Only one?

You shall know I rode one of these 23"step thru for severel weeks and it was bliss me and the dog. And I am 6'3I do have cool bikes that won't ever fit. I paid more for this seat than I do for complete bikes.I dont know if its worth fifty. I could be lying no

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Salubrious 04-04-18 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Chaser95 (Post 20262725)
This three speed thing is getting busy around here. I am picking up this green sports tomorrow. Seller said it was a decoration in his home. Anyone know what year they started using this chain ring?


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 20262980)
Let us know the hub date after you have her home, but I'll bet @Mooo is spot on with mid 1972.

The 6-point crank was introduced in 1972 but the 9 point crank continued to show up into early 1973.

Velocivixen 04-04-18 10:50 AM

Question: when you have a vintage 3 speed of no particular fame or value, how do you decide what to do with it?
I bought a Raleigh Twenty (coffee colored), all original & never serviced. As some may know these little bikes are a great starting point for all sorts of modifications.

It’s my 4th one. One got powder coated and @gugie moved the brake mounts, and I built 451 wheels. Second one is pristine all original & fully overhauled. Third I used Rhyno Lite 406 rims with SA drum brake front & 2-speed kick back w/coaster in back. Also fully overhauled.

I’m sort of thinking to just do a basic overhaul, new grease, bearings, cables, brake pads and see if I get inspired. I’ve got a set of Sun CR18 451 rims that are new I could build up.......

MeadMan2 04-04-18 10:56 AM

Pigseye was the original unofficial name for St Paul. Pigseye was a Frenchman who sold booze out of a cave at the present site of St Paul & had a bad eye, hence the name. A Catholic priest started a parish there which he named St. Paul's. The early settlers thought that Pigseye was not a very appealing name for their new village & so adopted St. Paul as the official name. A number of years ago there was a beer named Pigseye but the company that produced it has since gone out of business.

dweenk 04-04-18 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 20263527)
To illustrate market differences: early 60s men's Rudge, good shape for an old bike but hardly cherry, going off hereabouts for $150. And I'm considering it.

My market is slower and lower than yours; but if I had room for another I would buy the Rudge. The qualifier would be that it was original with the Red Hand of Ulster headbadge and chainwheel.

johnnyspaghetti 04-04-18 11:06 AM

We had 9 inches of heavy snow I'shut up

johnnyspaghetti 04-04-18 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by MeadMan2 (Post 20264061)
Pigseye was the original unofficial name for St Paul. Pigseye was a Frenchman who sold booze out of a cave at the present site of St Paul & had a bad eye, hence the name. A Catholic priest started a parish there which he named St. Paul's. The early settlers thought that Pigseye was not a very appealing name for their new village & so adopted St. Paul as the official name. A number of years ago there was a beer named Pigseye but the company that produced it has since gone out of business.

Thank you There are caves

dweenk 04-04-18 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 20264045)
Question: when you have a vintage 3 speed of no particular fame or value, how do you decide what to do with it?
I bought a Raleigh Twenty (coffee colored), all original & never serviced. As some may know these little bikes are a great starting point for all sorts of modifications.

Itís my 4th one. One got powder coated and @gugie moved the brake mounts, and I built 451 wheels. Second one is pristine all original & fully overhauled. Third I used Rhyno Lite 406 rims with SA drum brake front & 2-speed kick back w/coaster in back. Also fully overhauled.

Iím sort of thinking to just do a basic overhaul, new grease, bearings, cables, brake pads and see if I get inspired. Iíve got a set of Sun CR18 451 rims that are new I could build up.......

That's more than one question, so I'll give my answer to the first.

I have bought a few old 3 speeds that I didn't want or need; but I just wanted to save them. Some of them were sold, some given to friends, some in limbo in the garage, and some donated.

I will definitely keep 4 Raleighs, but I have 1 Raleigh and one Sears/Steyr that will go.

johnnyspaghetti 04-04-18 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 20263527)
To illustrate market differences: early 60s men's Rudge, good shape for an old bike but hardly cherry, going off hereabouts for $150. And I'm considering it.

Get what you can when you can. I already have too many. they are out there.

johnnyspaghetti 04-04-18 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 20264127)
That's more than one question, so I'll give my answer to the first.

I have bought a few old 3 speeds that I didn't want or need; but I just wanted to save them. Some of them were sold, some given to friends, some in limbo in the garage, and some donated.

I will definitely keep 4 Raleighs, but I have 1 Raleigh and one Sears/Steyr that will go.

I should seriously consider the 4 Raleigh option. I have bikes that will never fit, but nice.

Velocivixen 04-04-18 11:36 AM

@dweenk, thanks. I was mostly rambling out loud about what to do.

browngw 04-04-18 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 20264045)
Question: when you have a vintage 3 speed of no particular fame or value, how do you decide what to do with it?
I bought a Raleigh Twenty (coffee colored), all original & never serviced. As some may know these little bikes are a great starting point for all sorts of modifications.

Itís my 4th one. One got powder coated and @gugie moved the brake mounts, and I built 451 wheels. Second one is pristine all original & fully overhauled. Third I used Rhyno Lite 406 rims with SA drum brake front & 2-speed kick back w/coaster in back. Also fully overhauled.

Iím sort of thinking to just do a basic overhaul, new grease, bearings, cables, brake pads and see if I get inspired. Iíve got a set of Sun CR18 451 rims that are new I could build up.......


Doing the lube, fix-up and complete detailing is a great idea in any case. If you become attached to the bike, fine. If you don't, it will be ready for sale and a new home. I'm currently doing the same with a 1971 Holdsworth road bike. I seem to have a habit of refurbish, keep for a year or two and sell. Of course a few special bikes are "keepers".

johnnyspaghetti 04-04-18 11:42 AM

We are all Catholic And may or not be drunk.

noglider 04-04-18 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 20263527)
To illustrate market differences: early 60s men's Rudge, good shape for an old bike but hardly cherry, going off hereabouts for $150. And I'm considering it.

I usually see them for a lot more than that here in NYC. Where do you see them so cheap?

My three-speed is a 1962 Rudge which, unfortunately, doesn't have the chainring with the hand logo. Other than that, I love it.

noglider 04-04-18 11:46 AM

@Velocivixen, are you saying you have a solution and are looking for its corresponding problem?

dweenk 04-04-18 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 20264187)
We are all Catholic And may or not be drunk.

Aye laddie, and we all have cleats of clay.

BigChief 04-04-18 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 20264045)
Question: when you have a vintage 3 speed of no particular fame or value, how do you decide what to do with it?
I bought a Raleigh Twenty (coffee colored), all original & never serviced. As some may know these little bikes are a great starting point for all sorts of modifications.

It’s my 4th one. One got powder coated and @gugie moved the brake mounts, and I built 451 wheels. Second one is pristine all original & fully overhauled. Third I used Rhyno Lite 406 rims with SA drum brake front & 2-speed kick back w/coaster in back. Also fully overhauled.

I’m sort of thinking to just do a basic overhaul, new grease, bearings, cables, brake pads and see if I get inspired. I’ve got a set of Sun CR18 451 rims that are new I could build up.......

For myself, I like having 3 or 4 different bikes that I rotate for my daily rides. It makes cycling more fun for me to change bikes from time to time. And then, I love having a project going on in my workshop. I have fun solving all the problems and puzzles that come along. I especially enjoy rescue projects where a useless bike gets put back on the road again. This leaves me with the only part of the hobby I don't enjoy. Moving them along. It's a pest that I tend to ignore until REALLY have to make more room. So, bikes come and go, but I do have a few keepers.
You did a great job on that green 20. I have fun seeing other people's projects too and that was a good one.

johnnyspaghetti 04-04-18 01:15 PM

Mary may have too many hydro codones Yes or no could be lying yes no So for 28 inch wheels does 40- 635 work

browngw 04-04-18 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 20264467)
Mary may have too many hydro codones Yes or no could be lying yes no So for 28 inch wheels does 40- 635 work


These Schwalbe Marathons on my DL1 are 40-635 among other numbers. After a few flats on the NOS Dura's; I put these on. They almost are too wide for the brake stirrup.

paulb_in_bkln 04-04-18 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 20264187)
We are all Catholic And may or not be drunk.

Can being inebriated be my religion? Answering my own question: Yes.


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