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I hope that French bikes and components get some love on this Subforums. A lot of people tend to get irrationally upset about the shortcomings of French components.
Of course, when I remember the need to remove the drive side cones of an Normandy hub to take off the freewheel, they have a point… |
Welcome to the "rabbit hole"....... I only recently took the first steps in conquering my "Francovelophobia" by jumping in head first and buying a '72-ish Gitane Interclub, a '73 Gitane TdF frameset, a '77 Peugeot PR 10 frameset, a 1980-ish PKN10 and a 1981 PXN10 over the past few months. Go big or go home as they say.
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Welcome! There's plenty of love (and probably plenty of hate!) for vintage French bikes around here. And plenty of knowledge. I have owned a 1972 Gitane Tour de France, and currently own two Peugeots: a 1972 (possibly later) PX10 and a 1986 PXR80. They are great bikes.
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Did someone say French bikes?
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ced97824fe.jpg Welcome, Jacob. Thanks for coming along and for bringing up the topic, which has inspired me to ride this one today. |
French bikes of all types are fascinating to me. I've been through my phase of lovingly restoring old PX-10s, to riding PX-10s that look like they survived Verdun, to learning to love old French cheapies. Among those of us who know, you'll run into the expression "The French have a way with gaspipe," because they DID. I had a wonderful summer a couple of years back riding a c.1972 Liberia built up with 27-in wheels during the crush of the bike boom - it was really meant for 700C and you really can't put the rear wheel in with an inflated tire! I also have enjoyed the battered Mercier 200 with a mishmash of parts that, after straightening the crash-bent frame, has also turned out to be a cool bike.
Ah, but my favorite French bike yet remains the weathered c.1971 Gitane TdF I bought as a frameset with headset and BB. That one has been my primary early morning beater bike for many years now, and remains the first choice for vacations and first-light-of-day rides. I remain convinced that metric gauge Reynolds 531 is just a touch springier, though I am sure it's all in my head. |
Originally Posted by rustystrings61
(Post 22091541)
I remain convinced that metric gauge Reynolds 531 is just a touch springier, though I am sure it's all in my head.
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Originally Posted by Jacob_R_59
(Post 22091180)
I hope that French bikes and components get some love on this Subforums. A lot of people tend to get irrationally upset about the shortcomings of French components.
Of course, when I remember the need to remove the drive side cones of an Normandy hub to take off the freewheel, they have a point… |
Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
(Post 22083107)
Welcome to the forum, @Jacob_R_59! Matt |
First, though I do not have one at the moment, I am a fan of vintage French bicycles, having owned, restored and ridden Peugeot, Jeunet, Motobecane, LeJeune and... My favorite had to be either my Peugeot PX10...
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fa5fa6d69b.jpg Or my Motobecane Grand Jubilee... https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...534d0aee04.jpg As for this comment - "A lot of people tend to get irrationally upset about the shortcomings of French components." There is nothing irrational about being upset with this sort of thing... https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6d9b2f1b17.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dd1be95e72.jpg |
Originally Posted by randyjawa
(Post 22091693)
First, though I do not have one at the moment, I am a fan of vintage French bicycles, having owned, restored and ridden Peugeot, Jeunet, Motobecane, LeJeune and... My favorite had to be either my Peugeot PX10...
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fa5fa6d69b.jpg Or my Motobecane Grand Jubilee... https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...534d0aee04.jpg As for this comment - "A lot of people tend to get irrationally upset about the shortcomings of French components." There is nothing irrational about being upset with this sort of thing... https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6d9b2f1b17.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dd1be95e72.jpg I own 10 French bicycles, Not Afraid. |
Welcome Francophile, I have 9 or 10 myself, I lose count, but if I can pull it off, there will be another soon. More later. Don
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New here too, and if not in love, intrigued, with French components. The stronglight 93 cranks are some of the most beautiful. I want to try a jubilee rear derailer. The metric 531 on my 73 le champion makes for a beautiful ride… but it can be a pain.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa
(Post 22091693)
First, though I do not have one at the moment, I am a fan of vintage French bicycles, having owned, restored and ridden Peugeot, Jeunet, Motobecane, LeJeune and... My favorite had to be either my Peugeot PX10...
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fa5fa6d69b.jpg Or my Motobecane Grand Jubilee... https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...534d0aee04.jpg As for this comment - "A lot of people tend to get irrationally upset about the shortcomings of French components." There is nothing irrational about being upset with this sort of thing... https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6d9b2f1b17.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dd1be95e72.jpg |
Welcome to C&V. There is an entry level U08 survivor local to me and a bit too tall that I want to love enough to rescue just because. The seller started at $200 and is now at $50 and I'm at $35. I'm thinking it will be in my garage this weekend and I'll be $50 poorer.
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Added another French bike today, 1970s Liberia with 90s Sachs-Huret levers/shifters, derailleurs, and crankset. Had a moment of panic thinking I had bought yet another 70s French bike without water bottle braze-ons, but no, it has one. (I know that can be overcome in a variety of ways, but I'm kinda OCD when it comes to these things.)
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...021b49938.jpeg |
New French convert
One third of my collection is French, now.
I picked up a Peugeot PX-10 a month ago. I am already a third of the way to getting it back on the road. I did not think I wanted a French bike until I saw so many posts on this forum. I'll find out what the fuss is about later this summer. |
Originally Posted by Gashouse
(Post 22097165)
One third of my collection is French, now.
I picked up a Peugeot PX-10 a month ago. I am already a third of the way to getting it back on the road. I did not think I wanted a French bike until I saw so many posts on this forum. I'll find out what the fuss is about later this summer. |
Originally Posted by Jacob_R_59
(Post 22091180)
I hope that French bikes and components get some love on this Subforums. A lot of people tend to get irrationally upset about the shortcomings of French components.
Of course, when I remember the need to remove the drive side cones of an Normandy hub to take off the freewheel, they have a point… |
Originally Posted by bikemig
(Post 22097201)
Im a fan of French bikes as well. I started this thread, https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...nch-bikes.html
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Welcome to the forum, Jacob!
I try to keep my French bike habit under control. I've only got four at the moment. ;) I think you may have seen this one before. https://live.staticflickr.com/1855/4...8cb94abe_b.jpg |
So, you see there are many admirers of "The Beautiful French" in C&V:
One of my long sought, grail bikes was French, and somewhat special in that I could restore it and legitimately place Peugeot, Motobecane, Gitane, Mercier, Bertin or even a few other marquis' decals upon it. I did not seriously expect to ever own one, but recently found that there were some out there for very reasonable prices, and through a serendipitous chain of circumstances, found and purchased "just 1 more French Bike" as i told my wife. If you haven't guessed by now, I speak of the Vitus 979. This Wednesday, I picked her up. Pics will have to wait my return, since my phone aversion makes me hopelessly unable to use its capabilities and i left my camera behind. Don |
French Bikes
Hello and thank you for all the answers! My experience with French bikes is as mixed the comments here.
My 1966 PX-10 (my first of 3) had a failing and then broken seat tube, which explained the “lack of urgency” that accompanied out-of-the saddle efforts… French components are one thing and French frames quite another. Big frames, and for me a “big” frame (actually a normal sized one) is 66cm and up. They are hard to find! Why? A friend opined that most of France’s taller men were killed in World War 2 so there was less need for large frames. I don’t know anything about post War French bike production. The largest French frames I’ve seen were a 67cm Bertin C-35 on the Bertin Wordpress website and a 66cm Alex Singer that a friend offered me at a time when I was broke 🤢. I have a 65cm circa 1969 Bertin C-37 “project” frame and a 1975 PX-10LE. The LE was one model above the iconic “standard” PX-10 with the black Nervex lugs and had plain Nervex lugs painted white like the rest of the frame. I bought it because of the 60cm top tube, the longest I’ve seen so far on a French bike. Thanks for all of you who’ve taken the time to reply here. Maybe I’ll start another thread about Simplex Delfin derailleurs… 🤡 |
I have owned three Frenchies, the first and oldest of which I still have.
I retired the 1973 UO-8 when the chainstay cracked between the chainring and tire dimples, and I gave my beloved 1980 PKN-10 to my elder son, because it was one size too long and too tall for me. I still have the 1970 UO-8 I bought as a bare frame when I worked at a Peugeot/Nishiki dealership. To be fair, I have used a lot of Japanese driveline components, although the PKN-10 still has Simplex derailleurs. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...96226888a6.jpg My old PKN-10, now my son's kiddie-puller, although the boys are getting big for the trailer now. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...53ea7fe239.jpg My UO-8 with barcon cables routed between the rack and the cylindrical Bellwether front bag. |
Originally Posted by Jacob_R_59
(Post 22091180)
I hope that French bikes and components get some love on this Subforums. A lot of people tend to get irrationally upset about the shortcomings of French components.
Of course, when I remember the need to remove the drive side cones of an Normandy hub to take off the freewheel, they have a point… Good to see you’re testing the waters here at the dive bar after spending so much time at wine bar (CR). I try to be rationally upset at French components. |
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