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Mojo31 11-23-21 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22317808)
Nope. Vaccinated people can get sick/infected, I have seen that. But they typically have a mild illness. It's the unvaccinated ones who crash/burn.

That was my understanding.

sshakari 11-23-21 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22317808)
Nope. Vaccinated people can get sick/infected, I have seen that. But they typically have a mild illness. It's the unvaccinated ones who crash/burn.

I think its true. Both my wife and sone had it and both are vaxed. Very mild flulike symptoms. Both recovered within 3-5 days.

genejockey 11-23-21 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by sshakari (Post 22317834)
I think its true. Both my wife and sone had it and both are vaxed. Very mild flulike symptoms. Both recovered within 3-5 days.

This is from a White House COVID briefing in October. I posted it to Facebook hoping my antivax niece would see it, back before she unfriended me for trying to get her not to risk death because the guy she's sleeping with - who was cheating on her - is a conspiracy nut.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...84fe29b53f.jpg

WhyFi 11-23-21 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22317803)
The data on the web says our county's incidence has doubled in the past 3 weeks, but it feels like it has quadrupled. I am suspecting the upcoming holiday gatherings are going to make matters even worse.

Sigh.

Yup. We decided to pull the plug on our family gathering plans for Thanksgiving. Our primary concern was my side of the family, with a few hook-line-and-sinker conservatives and another couple of unaffiliated anti-vaxxers. We'll get together at my dad's in a couple weeks and avoid the rest of the family that'll be there on Thurs.

WhyFi 11-23-21 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22317749)
In non-P&R news, the cassette on the Crux is really on there. Failed first attempt. It may be because of my spindly roadie arms.

Would the sleeves of small Rapha jerseys flap in the wind if you were to wear one?

MoAlpha 11-23-21 01:53 PM

The anti-vax, anti-mask thing and some of the ridiculousness on “our” side make me think about schismogenesis, the social principle named by the anthropologist Gregory Bateson, whereby neighboring societies create exaggerated cultural variations to differentiate themselves. There is no other explanation that makes any sense to me.

Velo Vol 11-23-21 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22317723)
How does WATE 6 know which side I'm on?


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22317747)
Whose side are you on anyway?


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22317876)
The anti-vax, anti-mask thing and some of the ridiculousness on “our” side make me think about schismogenesis,

:foo:

WhyFi 11-23-21 01:59 PM

Thank goodness - I finally wrapped up a Craigslist sale that I'd posted a few days ago. It was for the old-school, big iron, thickness planer that I replaced with my early Black Friday score. It needs a little attention and I priced it aggressively just to get rid of it quickly... but it was probably too aggressive, as it brought out more tire-kickers than intended. Juggling potential appointments (including one wherein I was stood up) was getting to be a hassle, so I was happy to heft that heavy pig in to Farmer Tim's pickup and see it drive away.

genejockey 11-23-21 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22317876)
The anti-vax, anti-mask thing and some of the ridiculousness on “our” side make me think about schismogenesis, the social principle named by the anthropologist Gregory Bateson, whereby neighboring societies create exaggerated cultural variations to differentiate themselves. There is no other explanation that makes any sense to me.

Ridiculous as it might be, it's not killing hundreds of thousands of people.

Mojo31 11-23-21 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22317869)
Would the sleeves of small Rapha jerseys flap in the wind if you were to wear one?

Probably would on me.

If I could zip the thing up.

MoAlpha 11-23-21 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22317901)
Ridiculous as it might be, it's not killing hundreds of thousands of people.

True and there are other examples from anthropology where the apparent urge to be different had terrible costs. I’m glad I’m on the side that doesn’t have to reject rationality entirely.

datlas 11-23-21 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22317841)
This is from a White House COVID briefing in October. I posted it to Facebook hoping my antivax niece would see it, back before she unfriended me for trying to get her not to risk death because the guy she's sleeping with - who was cheating on her - is a conspiracy nut.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...84fe29b53f.jpg

I agree with this, but I am getting links from patients who have "sources" stating that the best approach is to not get vaccinated and instead take Ivermectin.

Sigh.

Mojo31 11-23-21 02:31 PM

Sometimes thinning the herd is not necessarily a bad thing. IMHO

BillyD 11-23-21 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22317797)
The Younger Boy turned 28 yesterday, so we had BBQ from a local joint, and cake. It made me realize why these two months are even more dangerous for me particularly than for most folks. First, there's my birthday on the 14th - big dinner, cake and ice cream. Then leftover big dinner and cake and ice cream. Then there are office Thanksgiving parties. Then there's The Younger Boy's birthday - big dinner, cake and ice cream. Then leftover big dinner and cake and ice cream. Then there's Thanksgiving, and days of leftovers. Then there are the usual vendor food gifts we get at work, plus any bakers bring in cookies. Then Christmas, and days of leftovers.

It's a wonder I don't gain 20 lbs in the last 2 months of the year!

This year my birthday is the day after Thanksgiving, so that doubles the amount of leftover desserts. Not complaining, I'll HTFU and find a way to deal with it.

WhyFi 11-23-21 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22317901)
Ridiculous as it might be, it's not killing hundreds of thousands of people.

Let's not sell ourselves short - we can hit a million if show that can-do spirit!

WhyFi 11-23-21 02:54 PM

All of this talk of Thanksgiving and dessert has made me realize that, with our recent change in plans, we don't have any desert on-hand. Other than pecans, I think that I still have everything I need for a pecan pie. Maybe I'll have to add it to the list and whip it up tomorrow.

MoAlpha 11-23-21 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22317972)
Let's not sell ourselves short - we can hit a million if show that can-do spirit!

We certainly have the opportunity.

genejockey 11-23-21 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22317945)
I agree with this, but I am getting links from patients who have "sources" stating that the best approach is to not get vaccinated and instead take Ivermectin.

Sigh.

One of the most infuriating things about our current situation is the abandonment of reason and empirical observation as a method for determining truth, in favor of paranoia and wishful thinking. And for what? I guess there's some emotional reward in thinking you are special because you know The Truth They're Trying To Hide, but people aren't even bothering to evaluate the nonsense they're swallowing while rejecting the objectively verifiable. And then they think THEY are the skeptics!!! It's possible we're too stupid collectively to survive.

WhyFi 11-23-21 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22317980)
One of the most infuriating things about our current situation is the abandonment of reason and empirical observation as a method for determining truth, in favor of paranoia and wishful thinking. And for what? I guess there's some emotional reward in thinking you are special because you know The Truth They're Trying To Hide, but people aren't even bothering to evaluate the nonsense they're swallowing while rejecting the objectively verifiable. And then they think THEY are the skeptics!!! It's possible we're too stupid collectively to survive.

"Possible"?

WhyFi 11-23-21 03:00 PM

Ugh, this is already kicking my anxiety up. Time to think about bikes. Or tools. Or something.

Oh - I held the Green jersey on Zwift today. Good thing that those sprints were only on paved sections, because the TT bike really sucked on the gravel bits. 300w on flat ground was getting me something like 20kph. :notamused:

genejockey 11-23-21 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22317984)
Ugh, this is already kicking my anxiety up. Time to think about bikes. Or tools. Or something.

Oh - I held the Green jersey on Zwift today. Good thing that those sprints were only on paved sections, because the TT bike really sucked on the gravel bits. 300w on flat ground was getting me something like 20kph. :notamused:

I find when I'm getting wound up that an hour on the bike works wonders, even indoors, especially if I really hammer.

genejockey 11-23-21 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22317981)
"Possible"?

Hope springs eternal.

datlas 11-23-21 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22317954)
This year my birthday is the day after Thanksgiving, so that doubles the amount of leftover desserts. Not complaining, I'll HTFU and find a way to deal with it.

:bday: in advance

Mojo31 11-23-21 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22317980)
One of the most infuriating things about our current situation is the abandonment of reason and empirical observation as a method for determining truth, in favor of paranoia and wishful thinking. And for what? I guess there's some emotional reward in thinking you are special because you know The Truth They're Trying To Hide, but people aren't even bothering to evaluate the nonsense they're swallowing while rejecting the objectively verifiable. And then they think THEY are the skeptics!!! It's possible we're too stupid collectively to survive.

Half of us anyway.

WhyFi 11-23-21 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22317994)
I find when I'm getting wound up that an hour on the bike works wonders, even indoors, especially if I really hammer.

I know - that's why I ride. But I've done that today and don't want to shower again.

Well, there's always booze. ;)


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