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indyfabz 12-05-21 12:55 PM

Eagles making the Jets look good.

DougRNS 12-05-21 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22329523)
Well, if you look at the State of Texas which has some of the most stringent laws against malpractice suits (to the extent that very few are filed), the medical costs and insurance costs have not gone down as a result but continue to go up. The Repubs that were pushing malpractice tort reform when Bush was governor sold the idea that malpractice suits drove up the cost of care and insurance without any support for the argument, and we have seen that that was never the case.

A catastrophic, high deductible, plan for my family now costs almost $3,000 per month. Hardly affordable.

As for malpractice suits, Texas (and most states that I know of) has always had a requirement that before a suit could be brought against a doctor or hospital, the plaintiff had to obtain and file a certificate signed by a doctor in the same area of practice that stated that the treating providers against whom the suit was brought did not follow the "standard of care" in providing the care that led to the injury.

In GA a similar group plan is about $1,500/month. In Illinois an individual plan is similar to what you pay. Might be a group vs individual plan thing.

Also, don't forget those greedy nurses. SMH

Mojo31 12-05-21 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22329637)
In GA a similar group plan is about $1,500/month. In Illinois an individual plan is similar to what you pay. Might be a group vs individual plan thing.

Also, don't forget those greedy nurses. SMH

The price I mentioned is a group rate through my firm.

The rates through our school district are not much less even though it is a much larger group.

datlas 12-05-21 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22329599)
Another week of riding in the bank. I wonder if I can stay on the podium.

Another week of tops in elevation but no podium.

#ColdComfort

Velo Vol 12-05-21 04:06 PM

Do I need to fix health care costs, too? It seems so.

Velo Vol 12-05-21 04:12 PM

Hard to be picky coming from where we were a year ago, but this is kind of lame. wut is Transperfect?


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...265e5d3da.jpeg

Velo Vol 12-05-21 04:48 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aa8caf0882.png

Mojo31 12-05-21 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22329800)
Do I need to fix health care costs, too? It seems so.

That, widespread COVID vaxes, and eliminate the political divide, and you may get a Nobel.

Velo Vol 12-05-21 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22329831)
That, widespread COVID vaxes, and eliminate the political divide, and you may get a Nobel.

Even if I did release a beautiful plan, good luck getting it (or anything) through the political process. Today's world is one in which tens of millions of people can be hoodwinked into believing that even a vaccine is bad. Get enough key people on your side, and you can demonize anything.

gnome 12-05-21 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22329831)
That, widespread COVID vaxes, and eliminate the political divide, and you may get a Sainthood.

fify

Velo Vol 12-05-21 05:39 PM

Oof.


WhyFi 12-05-21 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22329877)

Sure, but the Vikings gave the Lions their first win of the season on the last play of the game - tough to beat that.

genejockey 12-05-21 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22329873)
Even if I did release a beautiful plan, good luck getting it (or anything) through the political process. Today's world is one in which tens of millions of people can be hoodwinked into believing that even a vaccine is bad. Get enough key people on your side, and you can demonize anything.

The latest thing is for antivaxxers to say the best vaccine is to catch the disease. They've completely lost the thread.

BillyD 12-05-21 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22329463)
You don't see any guys in the picture. Burned all the bridges already.

:lol: Thatís a good point.

indyfabz 12-05-21 05:59 PM

Fat trash panda. He hung around for a good 10 minutes. Saw a live possum yesterday in addition to the carcass earlier in the week.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0945f2244.jpeg

DougRNS 12-05-21 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22329804)
Hard to be picky coming from where we were a year ago, but this is kind of lame. wut is Transperfect?


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...265e5d3da.jpeg

Good luck to the Vols.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3028530a0c.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cd92a70741.jpg

Velo Vol 12-05-21 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22329886)
Sure, but the Vikings gave the Lions their first win of the season on the last play of the game - tough to beat that.

Kudos.

phrantic09 12-05-21 06:27 PM

Oh boy!

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...13d21cb28.jpeg

genejockey 12-05-21 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22329523)
Well, if you look at the State of Texas which has some of the most stringent laws against malpractice suits (to the extent that very few are filed), the medical costs and insurance costs have not gone down as a result but continue to go up. The Repubs that were pushing malpractice tort reform when Bush was governor sold the idea that malpractice suits drove up the cost of care and insurance without any support for the argument, and we have seen that that was never the case.

A catastrophic, high deductible, plan for my family now costs almost $3,000 per month. Hardly affordable.

As for malpractice suits, Texas (and most states that I know of) has always had a requirement that before a suit could be brought against a doctor or hospital, the plaintiff had to obtain and file a certificate signed by a doctor in the same area of practice that stated that the treating providers against whom the suit was brought did not follow the "standard of care" in providing the care that led to the injury.

Golly, you mean that people who push for "tort reform" as a way of reducing heathcare costs might not be acting in good faith?

seedsbelize2 12-05-21 06:28 PM

Anna Karenina in the bank. Whew! Tough read at the end. I'm gonna give Tolstoy a wide berth henceforth. Moving on to 'Aurobiography of a Yogi' since it's already downloaded. I read it as a ute. Now as an old man. Perhaps a light will flicker.

genejockey 12-05-21 06:42 PM

Since I did a Zwift race on Friday and the C&V ride yesterday, I decided today would be shorter than my usual Sunday rides. It was chilly and foggy when I started (Bay Area standards), so I wore a jacket, since yesterday I found the vest wholly inadequate at times. But then it cleared up, so I ended up with my jersey underneath the jacket thoroughly sodden. I decided to take a few detours, ride a couple roads I either don't ride, or always ride in the other direction. One of these I had long ago decided not to ride in one direction because it was such a slog. Lighter, fitter me found it no bother at all, so it's back on the list of rideables. One road I'd never been on, so I thought I'd try it. I came up to a precipitous drop off, which went I know now where, so I turned around and figured I'd preview it on Strava before trying it IRL. On a flat map, the road looks pretty straight, and of course the elevation doesn't show.

Anyway, here's a pic of a vista so nice I had to stop and take a pic, which I rarely do. Caught the fog burning off over Crystal Springs Lake...
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6206c438c8.jpg

bampilot06 12-05-21 07:34 PM

putting Gators on the bontrager rims was almost like torture.

Looks like iím going to New York tomorrow. Got assigned my first trip. My first overnight is Richmond, Va. Would be fantastic if it was a long overnight, but as of now itís scheduled to be a short one.

bampilot06 12-05-21 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22329895)
Fat trash panda. He hung around for a good 10 minutes. Saw a live possum yesterday in addition to the carcass earlier in the week.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0945f2244.jpeg


you should open a zoo and start charging people.

bampilot06 12-05-21 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22329761)
Another week of tops in elevation but no podium.

#ColdComfort


What do I win?

LesterOfPuppets 12-05-21 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22329877)

I guess it's a good thing I worked all day today.


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