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CuttersRidge 02-05-16 10:09 PM

Per those bikes, I really wanted to just put the picture up but thought if I did not include the link since they are not mine, that would have been unethical. But I'd say one might be able to get $1200. I see the CL also has an early '50s Rudge for $400, some would pay that for a proper model. But I wasn't really wanting to get into the cost part, just the pictures.

adventurepdx 02-05-16 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CuttersRidge (Post 18515496)
Per those bikes, I really wanted to just put the picture up but thought if I did not include the link since they are not mine, that would have been unethical. But I'd say one might be able to get $1200. I see the CL also has an early '50s Rudge for $400, some would pay that for a proper model. But I wasn't really wanting to get into the cost part, just the pictures.

That Rudge is a nice one, I actually saw that one doing a search this week. It's in decent shape, has a Dynohub and lights, and has a full chaincase that isn't installed but is included with sale (and is depicted.) If I was in Minneapolis, and the frame was a 23" size, I'd definitely consider it!
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...425411575.html
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=502942

adventurepdx 02-05-16 11:44 PM

Seeing that '54 Rudge makes me miss my '53 Rudge. If only it wasn't a 21 inch frame.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3709/1...a3cdc1cd_z.jpg

Sorry, adding to the funeral atmosphere...

clubman 02-06-16 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by adventurepdx (Post 18515631)
That Rudge is a nice one, I actually saw that one doing a search this week. It's in decent shape, has a Dynohub and lights, and has a full chaincase that isn't installed but is included with sale (and is depicted.) If I was in Minneapolis, and the frame was a 23" size, I'd definitely consider it!
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...425411575.html
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=502942

That Rudge is worth more than the $5K Raleighs to me.


Originally Posted by shadaboot28 (Post 18515367)
If the left brake lever is original, then I would suggest that is a post 1956 Lenton. The right lever doesn't look original as it's not the typical Raleigh lever that was used throughout the 50's, it looks like it's off a BSA or something else. And I'm not sure if they are bluemels mudguards either, looking at the front mudguard it looks like a steel Raleigh guard that has been painted silver? But it's hard to tell from the small picture provided.

The decals and 3 pin chainwheel makes me think Neal got the age right but you are correct with the mudguards. Chrome steel profile from a sixties model. The front brake/lever looks OK to me apart from the fact it runs to the right side. It's the left lever and rear centre-pull(?) that's wrong.

I wouldn't pay too much for that example...little rusty too.

adventurepdx 02-06-16 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 18516228)
That Rudge is worth more than the $5K Raleighs to me.

Exactly!

Narhay 02-06-16 01:50 PM

How were the Raleigh Superbe/Sports frames, specifically ladies, measured? I've got one that is 21" crank to top of seat lug but it is more like a 19.5-20" c-c.

BigChief 02-06-16 04:37 PM

The Ladies Sports step throughs were offered in 19 1/2" and 21". Gents 21" and 23".

BigChief 02-06-16 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by adventurepdx (Post 18515639)
Seeing that '54 Rudge makes me miss my '53 Rudge. If only it wasn't a 21 inch frame.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3709/1...a3cdc1cd_z.jpg

Sorry, adding to the funeral atmosphere...

I love this bike!

Narhay 02-06-16 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 18517106)
The Ladies Sports step throughs were offered in 19 1/2" and 21". Gents 21" and 23".

I suppose mine is both 19.5 and 21" :). Were the official measurements c-c or c-t?

BigChief 02-06-16 04:42 PM

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My 55 still has a lot of work to go, but I'm having a blast riding it.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503128

BigChief 02-06-16 04:58 PM

The catalogs listed Gents Sports at 21 and 23. I have both and they measure exactly that from the crank centerline to the very top of the seat tube.
I'm confident it's centerline to tube top.

adventurepdx 02-06-16 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 18517109)
I love this bike!

Thanks! When I received it in December of 2011, it was in pretty rough shape.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7006/6...ccb69684_z.jpg
But through the help of @sixtyfiver; it became a beautiful machine.

More pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/urbana...57628544483457

gster 02-06-16 11:30 PM

I looked at the photos and like seeing the evolution and refinement of a project over time.

gster 02-07-16 12:31 AM

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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503215http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503216http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=5032171960 Union Cycle Oxford
Currently on Kijiji Toronto.
Is this Department Store/Chain built Raliegh?
Asking price @ $300.00
Precision Engineered and
Safety Tested!

BigChief 02-07-16 05:31 AM

I've never seen any of the badge engineered Raleighs with those fenders or brake levers, but the rest of the bike looks very much like a Raleigh. A bit pricey, but it is a 23" frame. To me, that adds value. Nice bike.

browngw 02-07-16 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 18517809)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503215http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503216http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=5032171960 Union Cycle Oxford
Currently on Kijiji Toronto.
Is this Department Store/Chain built Raliegh?
Asking price @ $300.00
Precision Engineered and
Safety Tested!

Mudguards, frame details, reflector and chainring are identical to my Robin Hood also part of the Raleigh family.

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...6&d=1446146314

gster 02-07-16 09:19 AM

Good lookin' bike.
I wonder what kind of minimum order would have been required back then for your own brand.
I imagine that Raleigh also supplied in house design services for the custom transfers and head badges.

BigChief 02-07-16 01:43 PM

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Every Robin Hood I've seen has the same chromed steel finial as Raleighs on the front fender. This one looks different, like this aluminum one.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503283

gster 02-07-16 04:14 PM

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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503321http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503322http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503323http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503324Some pages from the 1974 Eatons Catalogue.

clubman 02-07-16 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 18518798)
Every Robin Hood I've seen has the same chromed steel finial as Raleighs on the front fender. This one looks different, like this aluminum one.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503283

Birmingham fork, not a Raleigh

BigChief 02-08-16 07:47 AM

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Found these in my collection. Wonder if this earlier non Raleigh version is any relation to the Oxford in the ad.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503418http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503419

gster 02-08-16 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 18520181)
Found these in my collection. Wonder if this earlier non Raleigh version is any relation to the Oxford in the ad.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503418http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503419

It would appear that Union Cycles were British knock offs built in Holland, Germany and Japan.

bmthom.gis 02-08-16 10:14 AM

Had a blast riding mine 15 miles on Saturday. We had a big Mardi Gras celebration and I was in the parade with some of the co op guys. The wife was coming later so I figured I would ride the 13 miles to the parade route start. All went smooth until I got a 1/2 mile from the meeting place when the NDS rear axle nut loosened up on me. At least I was close. I think the headset is a bit loose on me as well, but it's time to do an overhaul anyway.

http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3gwkxhpj.jpg

gster 02-08-16 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gster (Post 18520344)
It would appear that Union Cycles were British knock offs built in Holland, Germany and Japan.

Now that I realize that they're non British I'll stop posting about these....
One last item. Here's a nice one and it shows how closely they were copying the British models.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503452http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=503453

arex 02-08-16 12:15 PM

Interesting hub mechanism...what make is it?


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