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MaxKatt 04-10-19 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 20878595)
Cool bike. Two tips, a '58 may have an SW 3 speed hub which is prone to failure but easily replaced with an AW if it does. The SW hub may work just fine. Regardless of model, put a few drops of lightweight oil in the filler. Also oil the rear brake housing at the back. Water seeps in there into the loop and rusts the cable solid.


Thanks fort the tips. I know there are apparently some ports to put oil right into the hubs or something. Honestly, I have zero wrench ability, so hopefully nothing goes wrong. Immediately after buying it however, I took it to my guy (Bob at Hastings Velo) for a check-up. He's the best mechanic I know. I don't know that there's a bike or mechanism he hasn't seen or worked with. He gave it a look and made sure it was safe and functional, so I should be good at least out of the gate here for a while. It won't be seeing lots of miles.

I'd never trash it though. If it ceased working for us, I'd move it on Craig's list or Ebay to someone else who might be able to do more with it.

ryansu 04-10-19 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 20875611)
Picked up this Moto Grand Record frameset this weekend and am thinking of a possible IGH conversion (and maybe 650B?). The paint is original.

https://live.staticflickr.com/7920/4...66caa548_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/7899/3...566ba31c_c.jpg

Envy, as the proud Owner of a 78 Moto_GT I often look for the next step up the line and I hardly ever see Grand Records and virtually never in my size - that appears to be a 23" frame...? Look forward to your resto

BigChief 04-10-19 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by MaxKatt (Post 20878459)
I always saw this thread, but never looked. Apparently, with my latest n+1 I've joined your club.

Wanted a beater/station bike with a basket for my girlfriend for her birthday. I have one that's a re-purposed mountain bike that went unclaimed after our co-op's purge of shared storage space a few years ago.

She had seen something she liked at a friend's house, but just missed the opportunity. Thinking nobody would want it, friend told the people in the process of buying the house they could have it. !?!?

Went on Craig's list to find something similar and found what I believe is a 1958 Raleigh Lady Armstrong. It's definitely a '58, as we can see that on the hub. Head badge and some reflectors missing. Seat not original. Still...it's cooler than something I would have gotten at Modells and less likely to be stolen on grocery runs.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8a2678098e.png
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aacd5159dc.png

This bike is pre-Raleigh. Likely made in Birmingham. The later Raleigh made Armstrongs aren't as desirable as this one. With a fresh servicing, these can be a comfortable and pleasant ride. The original finish looks very classy.

noglider 04-10-19 06:26 PM

@nlerner, I put extra long reach dual pivot brakes on a bike. They were no-name cheapos, and they worked darned well, so that's a possibility for you.

browngw 04-11-19 10:09 AM

Tool Storage
 
It is always interesting to see other workspaces and tool storage options. To conserve space and sanity in my 16x24 garage that stores one car in winter and houses the family car, plus keeps the TR7 and bikes all summer, all of my bike tools and equipment is in/on a mobile steel cart measuring 28"x20". A woodworker vise with wood jaws doubles as a holder for the truing stand which can also be stored underneath. A 4" ABS drain pipe coupling makes tire changing easy as the axle/ freewheel is supported.https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...96c9d1f508.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f6001e83a0.jpg

52telecaster 04-11-19 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 20879091)
@nlerner, I put extra long reach dual pivot brakes on a bike. They were no-name cheapos, and they worked darned well, so that's a possibility for you.

ive had good luck as well with off brand dual pivots

paulb_in_bkln 04-11-19 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 20879988)
It is always interesting to see other workspaces and tool storage options. To conserve space and sanity in my 16x24 garage that stores one car in winter and houses the family car, plus keeps the TR7 and bikes all summer, all of my bike tools and equipment is in/on a mobile steel cart measuring 28"x20". A woodworker vise with wood jaws doubles as a holder for the truing stand which can also be stored underneath. A 4" ABS drain pipe coupling makes tire changing easy as the axle/ freewheel is supported.https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...96c9d1f508.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f6001e83a0.jpg

Having an envy meltdown.

Ballenxj 04-11-19 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 20879988)
It is always interesting to see other workspaces and tool storage options. To conserve space and sanity in my 16x24 garage that stores one car in winter and houses the family car, plus keeps the TR7 and bikes all summer, all of my bike tools and equipment is in/on a mobile steel cart measuring 28"x20". A woodworker vise with wood jaws doubles as a holder for the truing stand which can also be stored underneath. A 4" ABS drain pipe coupling makes tire changing easy as the axle/ freewheel is supported.

Very tidy, and useful looking work space. It's nice to have all your needed tools at your fingertips. :thumb:

gster 04-11-19 04:53 PM

1930 Hercules
Taking a tip from browngw .
Clamping the fender sideways to reshape.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eab0984289.jpg

BigChief 04-11-19 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 20880090)
Having an envy meltdown.

Don't let it bother you You're not alone. Not all of us here are that neat and well organized.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...21445a41e3.jpg

gster 04-11-19 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 20880718)
Don't let it bother you You're not alone. Not all of us here are that neat and well organized.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...21445a41e3.jpg

Wow!
You got a vice!!

3speedslow 04-11-19 07:29 PM

I’ve been spending some time going down the Twenty, folder, shopper rabbit hole of our brethren across the pond. Some wild forums where these guys are dragging these bikes home seems like a couple times a week. It stands to figure they are abundant over there and not just made by Raleigh.

its quite entertaining what all they do to these. Side by side builds, small tandems made and one bloke whose homemade jet engine got him just about launched!

nlerner 04-11-19 08:39 PM

Here's a "gem" on Boston's CL:

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bi...858120544.html

https://images.craigslist.org/00404_...es_600x450.jpg

If it were closer, I'd be tempted just for those parts, particularly the 5-speed shifters and the chain case.

browngw 04-11-19 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20880695)
1930 Hercules
Taking a tip from browngw .
Clamping the fender sideways to reshape.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eab0984289.jpg

How is it working? It can be a tedious process. I likely spend more time than I should trying to capture the elusive perfect fender line.

gster 04-11-19 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 20881007)
How is it working? It can be a tedious process. I likely spend more time than I should trying to capture the elusive perfect fender line.

I think I need multiple clamps on this....

thumpism 04-12-19 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20880794)
Wow!
You got a vice!!

We all do, it's called "bicycles." That's a vise on the bench.

gster 04-12-19 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 20881176)
We all do, it's called "bicycles." That's a vise on the bench.

That's good.

browngw 04-12-19 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20881285)
That's good.

That "vice" on your bench can also be used to squeeze your "mudguard".:)

BigChief 04-12-19 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20880794)
Wow!
You got a vice!!

Ah yes, I have many vices. :rolleyes:

3speedslow 04-12-19 12:41 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...40f6d1852.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7475c2b63.jpeg
DIY folder geek project

i know I want a mud flap on my Twenty but havenít gotten around to procuring one. Had an idea while rummaging around kitchen. Took one of the many soft rubber pads used to grip jar lids with while opening and used it. Everybody has those to give out at stores and street festivals. So many colours and shapes too.

Found a brass and SS wire clip for this. Measure the slit needed and cut enough for it to slip in. Put together and installed on the front fork.

Will see eventually how it holds up and does itís job!

browngw 04-12-19 02:45 PM

A Tale of Tires
 
Along the way enlightenment there are many, many, pitfalls Grasshopper. Since acquiring the wonderful old Made in Belgium https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d16ac473c3.jpg
Royal Nord President 3 speed I have been planning and working away at the reconditioning of everything. Because the Dunlop Imperial tires were marked 28 x 1 1/2 (only size marking) and the metal stemmed Dunlop Air Seal tube was marked the same, I made the assumption #1 it was 40-635 (28 x 1 1/2). I guess you know what happened next. After weeks of scouring the market for 40-635 tires and ordering two, one of which still has not arrived (carton1 of 2, shipped in mid march) A local mobile shop had one Schwalbe Marathon which I also purchased. Had time today to try mounting up a tire. It slipped right over the rim! Did some research and measurement and find that it is likely 700C. Off to the LBS with the front rim to try one and indeed it is a 40-622 (700c) rim. Who knew? He will order something for me when I find what I want.
While there I borrowed his 9/16" pedal taps to solve assumption #2 . Just because pedals look the same, does not mean they are. The made in Belgium JRC pedals have a slightly different thread (maybe French?). They are in poor condition and I ordered at set of MKS pedals (also somewhere in cyber space for weeks). So this is as far as I have gotten.

3speedslow 04-12-19 02:46 PM

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...244cc41ec.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...db5fc00e6.jpeg
Next up: rear reflector repair

had this busted reflector on one of my spare mudguard sets. Took a Jiff peanut butter red plastic lid, cut to size then slapped on some DOT reflector tape on. Inserted into the rubber groove. Done.

noglider 04-12-19 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 20880874)
homemade jet engine got him just about launched!

I've seen that video and the guy's other videos. Do not try his tricks at home! He is insane.

gster 04-12-19 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 20882114)
Along the way enlightenment there are many, many, pitfalls Grasshopper. Since acquiring the wonderful old Made in Belgium https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d16ac473c3.jpg
Royal Nord President 3 speed I have been planning and working away at the reconditioning of everything. Because the Dunlop Imperial tires were marked 28 x 1 1/2 (only size marking) and the metal stemmed Dunlop Air Seal tube was marked the same, I made the assumption #1 it was 40-635 (28 x 1 1/2). I guess you know what happened next. After weeks of scouring the market for 40-635 tires and ordering two, one of which still has not arrived (carton1 of 2, shipped in mid march) A local mobile shop had one Schwalbe Marathon which I also purchased. Had time today to try mounting up a tire. It slipped right over the rim! Did some research and measurement and find that it is likely 700C. Off to the LBS with the front rim to try one and indeed it is a 40-622 (700c) rim. Who knew? He will order something for me when I find what I want.
While there I borrowed his 9/16" pedal taps to solve assumption #2 . Just because pedals look the same, does not mean they are. The made in Belgium JRC pedals have a slightly different thread (maybe French?). They are in poor condition and I ordered at set of MKS pedals (also somewhere in cyber space for weeks). So this is as far as I have gotten.

Those 28" x 1 1/2" tires are a rabbit hole.
There's a Canadian size all it's own as well.

browngw 04-12-19 09:16 PM

I wonder who will be post # 20000?


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