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Salubrious 05-06-21 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by adventurepdx (Post 22047782)
Why suffer for the sake of "originality"? Pedals are so easy to mount and remove. Save the original pedals for when the "originality" matters, like a Tweed ride, vintage bike event, or when you sell the bike, and ride better pedals otherwise.

That's the first Superbe I've seen with those pedals. IMO they are the worst pedal Raleigh used.

adventurepdx 05-06-21 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 22047800)
That's the first Superbe I've seen with those pedals. IMO they are the worst pedal Raleigh used.

The pedals that came with my Raleigh Wayfarer were horrible too. So glad that removing them was one of the first things I did.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8a0a254e87.jpg

gster 05-06-21 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 22047800)
That's the first Superbe I've seen with those pedals. IMO they are the worst pedal Raleigh used.

I have another '72 in the garage with the same sh*t pedals.

Salubrious 05-06-21 12:36 PM

I'm not a fan of their block pedals of that era (the earlier ones are excellent and very rebuildable) but they are sooo much better than those flat monstrosities.

dweenk 05-06-21 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 22047843)
I have another '72 in the garage with the same sh*t pedals.

I have one Raleigh step through with these pedals. I'll keep them as long as they last. Nothing wrong with them as long as they work.

nlerner 05-06-21 05:53 PM

Are those the pedals with plastic bushings instead of steel bearings? I have a pair of those that have developed a horrible squeak. Awful product.

clubman 05-06-21 06:16 PM

The pedals were bad but there was a run on them about 25 years ago when a lot of guys were rebuilding their Raleigh Choppers. I saw NOS pars go for up to $100 when ebay was the wild west for auctions. I had a cool set in white on this Eatons Glider (Colt).
They were still crap but at least they looked good.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6f4beab846.jpg

cudak888 05-06-21 09:24 PM

The flat plastic Raleigh pedals were great in theory - they are super comfortable with almost any normal non-cycling shoe.

The bad part is that they have nylon bushings. That's right, no bearings, just a pair of nylon bushings like a kid's tricycle. What does that mean?

For one, squeaking, as @nlerner points out. Secondly, the shafts are on the thin side, so they're easy to bend - not that any Raleigh pedal that came before it was any better. Third, you'll eventually wear the nylon enough that the pedal will pop right off the spindle - into the great beyond - while you're riding.

Before I had my '51 Sports and a million other Raleighs, I had this '69 Robin Hood. I didn't run the wheels off it, but I certainly ran the pedals off of it. Both of those lousy platforms popped off on me.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5c9abff43.jpg

-Kurt

browngw 05-07-21 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 22048312)
Are those the pedals with plastic bushings instead of steel bearings? I have a pair of those that have developed a horrible squeak. Awful product.

I had a bottle of 75W90 gear oil for the manual transmission on my Triumph TR7. It works great in those pedals. I don\t like how small and fragile they feel, but people at the swap meet like them to keep their bikes original I guess. They were on my 72 Sports for a while.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7f558342b7.jpg

gster 05-08-21 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by cudak888 (Post 22048533)
The flat plastic Raleigh pedals were great in theory - they are super comfortable with almost any normal non-cycling shoe.

The bad part is that they have nylon bushings. That's right, no bearings, just a pair of nylon bushings like a kid's tricycle. What does that mean?

For one, squeaking, as @nlerner points out. Secondly, the shafts are on the thin side, so they're easy to bend - not that any Raleigh pedal that came before it was any better. Third, you'll eventually wear the nylon enough that the pedal will pop right off the spindle - into the great beyond - while you're riding.

Before I had my '51 Sports and a million other Raleighs, I had this '69 Robin Hood. I didn't run the wheels off it, but I certainly ran the pedals off of it. Both of those lousy platforms popped off on me.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5c9abff43.jpg

-Kurt

Another bad decision by Raleigh considering that they had to
-design a new pedal
-set up the tooling to produce it
and then deal with customer complaints.
My 1967 Sprite 5 speed also has those pedals.

Johno59 05-08-21 06:15 AM

At the death they did headset bearings of plastic as well. Good grief.

cudak888 05-08-21 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Johno59 (Post 22050126)
At the death they did headset bearings of plastic as well. Good grief.

What models? I know the Twenty had an nylon upper nut to facilitate its handlebar folding system, but never saw it on a Sports.

-Kurt

gster 05-09-21 04:51 AM

A short clip from the film Robbery (1967)
Directed by Peter Yates who was hired to direct Bullit (1968) based
on this chase scene.
Relevant because a British bike (with rod brakes) is literally
pulverised in this clip.
This scene is also repeated in Stephen King's Christine.

cudak888 05-09-21 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 22051290)
A short clip from the film Robbery (1967)

Correction: Robbery is the fictionalization of the 1963 Great Train Robbery. That's from Bellman and True, a 1987 film, and it's certainly no Peter Yates affair. Also - '77 Daimler, not a Jaguar.

Here's a bit of the Robbery chase:


Side note - the ladies' 1951 Raleigh Sports I had has found a new home down the street with another 3-speed collector. He's currently doing a teardown on a rough - but promising - early-1960's Humber Sports. Snapped some photos of both. Pretty sure the tread on those tires is associated with Dunlop, though I don't recognize the sidewall.

If anyone has a pre-TI era black front fender and handlebar (it's severely bent), he'd be interested.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...003d634afe.jpg

Closeup of the fork:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f221347e5f.jpg

-Kurt

thumpism 05-11-21 08:39 PM

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...28711642007138

https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...63&oe=60C0E870

thumpism 05-11-21 08:47 PM

Five, count 'em, 5 Sturmey-Archer speeds and a 23" frame.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...2885307115421/

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...2f&oe=60C2A6C9

gster 05-12-21 05:12 AM

Nice but over priced DL-1
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4e82033644.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c82a2c38ad.jpg
$880.00 asking price here in Toronto

thumpism 05-12-21 05:17 AM

Cheap! Somebody please buy this quaint townie. Gearing not specified and only one bad photo but I suspect a Sturmey hub in addition to the obvious highly desirable oddness.

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...319736549.html

https://images.craigslist.org/00404_...CI_600x450.jpg

Also, it looks like a 23" ladies frame and I'd bet it has 700C wheels.

thumpism 05-12-21 05:49 PM

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...12278550416483

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...84&oe=60C080B4

thumpism 05-13-21 05:21 PM

Check out that headlamp bracket!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...00039640460242

https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...df&oe=60C2004E

thumpism 05-13-21 08:38 PM

Threefer!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...41959764581069

https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...3d&oe=60C2F14E

gster 05-14-21 07:51 AM

That's a good deal.

Salubrious 05-14-21 11:20 AM

Lake Pepin 3-speed Tour is this weekend

CityCountry 05-14-21 01:36 PM

I just replaced by Pointer Horizon 3 speed with a fancy 8 speed Gazelle that's much lighter. But when I went back to my three speed for a quick trip, I found that it actually seemed to handle hills better? Such is life.

cudak888 05-14-21 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 22058621)

Already sold, but VERY much worth it. Two '50s Superbes and a Sports? Yes, please.

-Kurt


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