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Eric F 10-06-21 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22259911)
LoP is out there riding in the middle of the night, and you guys are staying in because of "fog."

SMH

You do it your way. I'll do it mine.

seedsbelize2 10-06-21 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22259815)
Yep. My aunt and uncle ran a couple of pretty successful businesses in the Carmel/Carmel Valley area when I was growing up, and did very well for themselves. They relocated to Redding about a decade ago. I have a cousin that still lives in Carmel Valley, but haven't been to visit in far too long.

Redding is decidedly a big step up from the Carmel Valley.
:foo:

MoAlpha 10-06-21 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22259919)
My dad retired as a full Colonel

Very good, of course, but I'm wondering what the relevance is to longevity. I retired at O-6 and one of my buddies who also did, died this Spring, poor man.

Eric F 10-06-21 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22259905)
Very probably.

I don't mind Zwift group rides, most of the time. However, I usually struggle to align my ride time window with an appropriate group for my fitness. Recently, I tend to start with one of the Watopia bot groups (which you can jump into any time), and almost invariably end up rolling off the front at a slightly higher pace with a handful of like-minded folks. It usually turns out to be a pretty good time with more realistic variations in effort than the flat-line bot pace.

Eric F 10-06-21 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22259924)
Redding is decidedly a big step up from the Carmel Valley.
:foo:

Up? Maybe we have different definitions of "up". I'm still not sure why they decided on Redding.

MoAlpha 10-06-21 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22259927)
I don't mind Zwift group rides, most of the time. However, I usually struggle to align my ride time window with an appropriate group for my fitness. Recently, I tend to start with one of the Watopia bot groups (which you can jump into any time), and almost invariably end up rolling off the front at a slightly higher pace with a handful of like-minded folks. It usually turns out to be a pretty good time with more realistic variations in effort than the flat-line bot pace.

I find them a good once or twice a week way to blast away an hour of sweet spot. Agree about the scheduling issue. I'll have to try the bot group thing. Never heard of that. What are they listed as?

seedsbelize2 10-06-21 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22259926)
Very good, of course, but I'm wondering what the relevance is to longevity. I retired at O-6 and one of my buddies who also did, died this Spring, poor man.

They could get anything they wanted, healthcare wise. My dad was getting a $2000 EPO shot several times a week(daily?) there for awhile. Blood transfusions., Sometimes two per day. You name it. Finally he got pneumonia and was too weak to receive the transfusion. RIP
What does O-6 refer to?

seedsbelize2 10-06-21 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22259931)
Up? Maybe we have different definitions of "up". I'm still not sure why they decided on Redding.

Note the tongue in cheek avatar(for lack of the correct word).

MoAlpha 10-06-21 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22259934)
They could get anything they wanted, healthcare wise. My dad was getting a $2000 EPO shot several times a week(daily?) there for awhile. Blood transfusions., Sometimes two per day. You name it. Finally he got pneumonia and was too weak to receive the transfusion. RIP
What does O-6 refer to?

Yeah, Medicare and Tricare is about as good a combination as you can get, but it's available to any uniformed service retiree.

O-6 is Colonel, Navy Captain, etc.

seedsbelize2 10-06-21 03:18 PM

I did not know that

Eric F 10-06-21 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22259933)
I find them a good once or twice a week way to blast away an hour of sweet spot. Agree about the scheduling issue. I'll have to try the bot group thing. Never heard of that. What are they listed as?

Select Watopia as your ride world, and it will give you the option in the lower window to ride with a pace bot. There are 4 bots riding at different w/kg levels to set the pace for the group. Select the one that fits your needs. Be aware that the w/kg effort by the bot is steady, regardless of terrain. Recently, I've been starting with the C-bot group (2.5 w/kg) and typically end up with a group of 4-8 riders off the front at 2.7-2.9, with climbing efforts in the 3.0-3.5 range. For me, it's a good effort in the SS to FTP range, with a few more intense sections for spice. This varies somewhat depending on the route. You can also peel off any time and ride on your own without ending your ride session.

MoAlpha 10-06-21 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22259961)
Select Watopia as your ride world, and it will give you the option in the lower window to ride with a pace bot. There are 4 bots riding at different w/kg levels to set the pace for the group. Select the one that fits your needs. Be aware that the w/kg effort by the bot is steady, regardless of terrain. Recently, I've been starting with the C-bot group (2.5 w/kg) and typically end up with a group of 4-8 riders off the front at 2.7-2.9, with climbing efforts in the 3.0-3.5 range. For me, it's a good effort in the SS to FTP range, with a few more intense sections for spice. This varies somewhat depending on the route. You can also peel off any time and ride on your own without ending your ride session.

Thanks. That definitely sounds worth a try!

genejockey 10-06-21 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22259987)
Thanks. That definitely sounds worth a try!

The problem you might find is that the pace bots go at a constant 'power', so unlike real riders, they don't exert more effort on climbs, so if you ride like you would outside, you'll drop them on the climbs. On descent where you mighty push 100w just to keep your legs moving, they're STILL putting out their specified power, so they'll blow past you. It works best on the flat routes.

DougRNS 10-06-21 04:46 PM

Tomorrow I've got my eye appointment. Hopefully it's routine and I can get back to awesomeness.

datlas 10-06-21 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22260040)
The problem you might find is that the pace bots go at a constant 'power', so unlike real riders, they don't exert more effort on climbs, so if you ride like you would outside, you'll drop them on the climbs. On descent where you mighty push 100w just to keep your legs moving, they're STILL putting out their specified power, so they'll blow past you. It works best on the flat routes.

Do they have a wussy-bot option where they always put out 100w??

Asking for a friend.

genejockey 10-06-21 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22260111)
Do they have a wussy-bot option where they always put out 100w??

Asking for a friend.

D. Diesel is 1.5 w/kg, so if you weigh 147lbs, yes.

indyfabz 10-06-21 06:00 PM

Are you ready for some baseball?!?!

indyfabz 10-06-21 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22260078)
Tomorrow I've got my eye appointment. Hopefully it's routine and I can get back to awesomeness.

When did you leave?

DougRNS 10-06-21 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22260175)
When did you leave?

my awesomeness has been compromised for about 9 months.

Mojo31 10-06-21 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22260123)
D. Diesel is 1.5 w/kg, so if you weigh 147lbs, yes.

I think he does weigh about 147.

Velo Vol 10-06-21 06:15 PM

lplo

Velo Vol 10-06-21 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22260173)
Are you ready for some baseball?!?!

Nope.

datlas 10-06-21 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22260194)
I think he does weigh about 147.

A bit less, but close enough.

LesterOfPuppets 10-06-21 06:23 PM

Oooh, looks like midday riding weather is coming Tuesday!!!

:bday:


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Velo Vol 10-06-21 06:38 PM

Sequatchie County traffic alert!



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