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BRAZUCA 11-22-11 06:43 PM

I believe this is a 21" frame, how tall are you / inseam ? (If you don't mind sharing).

Velognome 11-22-11 09:04 PM

Oh, I like the His & hers BSA's! Very special indeed.

photogravity 11-22-11 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Velognome (Post 13524100)
Oh, I like the His & hers BSA's! Very special indeed.

I'm with you on the BSA's. Neat bikes and appear pretty clean besides. I guess I need to post pics of the 1971 his and hers Hercules I recently purchased and of the 1959 Hercules Hawthorne project bike too. I am loving these three speeds. I think it is the simplicity and elegance of the design that does it for me.

BassNotBass 11-22-11 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by yellowbarber (Post 13523045)
This one was abandoned on my street for more than a year when I found it moments after NY Dept. of Sanitation got sick of looking at it and clipped it loose.

A Rollfast...as in H.P. Snyder Manufacturing? I love the badge and seat tube decal on yours ! I have a lowly Mohawk by that company in Little Falls NY. It's from the early 70s (as far as I can tell with what little info there is) and was certainly a low-budget department store bike but I really enjoy it... even with its Shimano 333 hub and twist grip shifter. I'm waiting for creme Schwalbe Delta Cruisers to arrive that will complete this surprisingly competent little blast from the past.

yellowbarber 11-23-11 07:18 AM

Yep, it's 21". I'm 6'2". That's why I put that extra long seatpost stem on there, so I can reach the pedals without murdering my knees.

Originally Posted by BRAZUCA (Post 13523532)
I believe this is a 21" frame, how tall are you / inseam ? (If you don't mind sharing).


photogravity 11-23-11 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by yellowbarber (Post 13525029)
Yep, it's 21". I'm 6'2". That's why I put that extra long seatpost stem on there, so I can reach the pedals without murdering my knees.

That is a really nice Rollfast and you were so lucky to have been there at the right time to snag it. Some people have all the luck, though I'm not one of those people. :D

BigPolishJimmy 11-28-11 10:13 AM

Are you familiar with string testing a frame? randyjawa's site has instructions here:

http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpe...ngFrameSet.htm

I'd take the rear wheel and rear fender off to do the test and assess the frame. Perhaps it'll help. Maybe you can save the bike if you really like it.


Originally Posted by jamesj (Post 13518764)
@noglider: I cleaned up the text in my previous comment. Hopefully it reads better.
I have not replaced the Raleigh. I have the TREK 412 that is my commuter/everyday ride but honestly I really miss having a 3 speed around.

I wonder if I take the frame in to a decent bike shop can they tell me if it is bent.


yellowbarber 11-29-11 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by BigPolishJimmy (Post 13539885)
I'd take the rear wheel and rear fender off to do the test and assess the frame. Perhaps it'll help. Maybe you can save the bike if you really like it.

The bike I'm riding was run over by the coffee & donut guy who parks on the corner where I found it. The old steel rim was able to be straightened and the frame is unbelievably straight. You really can't beat steel; an alloy framed ride wouldn't have survived such abuse.

yellowbarber 11-29-11 01:30 PM

6 Attachment(s)
I needed/wanted a bike down at my family's place in Va. so I can take the train or bus down instead of driving
Here's what I found:
1962 Dunelt, 21" frame, from the original owner (who was smart enough to not let me low-ball him for it)

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=228800
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=228796http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=228798
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=228799http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=228801
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=228797

wahoonc 11-29-11 06:21 PM

I have one of the Malaysian built Sports. It was purchased used in 1982 and has well over 30,000 hard miles on it. Still chugging along as my beer bike. The fork and the left right crank arm were replaced after a crash back around 1992 or so.

Aaron:)

http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/46...500x500Q85.jpg

sailorbenjamin 11-29-11 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by yellowbarber (Post 13544495)

Oh baby, I like those fenders.

sailorbenjamin 11-29-11 09:04 PM

Oh baby, I like that attachment.
I was hoping to get the picture in there, not the number.

choteau 11-29-11 10:48 PM

Well, I have determined that riding my old Phillips 3 speed is: smoother, more fun, more relaxing, better exercise, more enjoyable, and less hassle than riding my newer Miyata 610 which weights less than half as much and has 15 possible gears ( I use like 7-9 of them). In fact I seem to travel the same 21 miles of my favorite loop, slightly faster on the Phillips...... The 17.5 loop with hills is slightly slower, maybe the walking and pushing the bike is slower than spinning like a squirrel in in a cage in low/low.

jamesj 11-29-11 11:16 PM

Thanx for the link I think I know what my weekend project is going to be. It seems pretty basic enough that I can do that. Hopefully there is no damage to the frame, for whatever reason I really love that bike.




Originally Posted by BigPolishJimmy (Post 13539885)
Are you familiar with string testing a frame? randyjawa's site has instructions here:

http://www.mytenspeeds.com/My_TenSpe...ngFrameSet.htm

I'd take the rear wheel and rear fender off to do the test and assess the frame. Perhaps it'll help. Maybe you can save the bike if you really like it.


yellowbarber 11-30-11 11:16 AM

sweet!
beer bike!

Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 13545678)


jamesj 11-30-11 07:44 PM

So I had a couple of minutes today after work to look at the frame and I did the string test and the bottom of the headtube measurement measured in at 25mm and then when I moved the line to the top it was the same. Also the rear spacing is at 114 from what sheldon says that is correct for a 3 speed.

Im hoping that it was pretty correct. I might still take it to the shop to make sure the rear stays are centered.

But this little test made me hopeful.

photogravity 11-30-11 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by sailorbenjamin (Post 13546185)
Oh baby, I like those fenders.

I don't believe I've ever seen a badge on a mudguard like that. Stickers yes, but a badge never! Very nice looking bike.

cb400bill 12-01-11 06:20 PM

I just returned home with this Bronze Green 1968 Sports.

I purchased it from the Original OwnerŽ, who got the bike new for his 11th birthday. It had been sitting in his mother's basement since he went of to college in the mid 70's.

I like the fact that it still had its original Brooks saddle and matching seat bag. It even came with the owners manual.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-G...2/P1020613.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G...2/P1020619.JPG

photogravity 12-01-11 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by cb400bill (Post 13552989)
I just returned home with this Bronze Green 1968 Sports.

I purchased it from the Original OwnerŽ, who got the bike new for his 11th birthday. It had been sitting in his mother's basement since he went of to college in the mid 70's.

I like the fact that it still had its original Brooks saddle and matching seat bag. It even came with the owners manual.

That is a sweet find, bill! I would think that the owners manual is a real rarity, so this makes the deal even sweeter. I guess the guy wasn't sentimentally attached to it, eh?

BigPolishJimmy 12-02-11 05:34 PM

Dang Bill, Seriously nice find.

Let me know if you ever come across one in a larger size. Over the winter I'll be building that trashed out 23" sports that I got this summer. I plan to keep it in town, hopefully it's fugly-factor will help it be theft resistant.

cb400bill 12-02-11 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by photogravity (Post 13553500)
That is a sweet find, bill! I would think that the owners manual is a real rarity, so this makes the deal even sweeter. I guess the guy wasn't sentimentally attached to it, eh?

Thanks. The seller was kinda sentimental about the bike. He told me he grew up in the Detroit suburbs and used to ride it everywhere. He was pleased when he found out he was selling it to someone who knew what it was, appreciated it, and wasn't going to part it out. It needs a full overhaul and replacement of all consumables. When done it will be my first 3 speed since I was 14 y/o.


Originally Posted by BigPolishJimmy (Post 13556537)
Dang Bill, Seriously nice find.

Let me know if you ever come across one in a larger size. Over the winter I'll be building that trashed out 23" sports that I got this summer. I plan to keep it in town, hopefully it's fugly-factor will help it be theft resistant.

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out. Actually, I had hoped this one was going to be a 23" but it is a 21". I don't plan any long rides so I should be fine on it. And, don't think that thieves don't steal ugly bikes. Trust me, they do.

noglider 12-02-11 09:03 PM

They do steal ugly bikes, but I think 3-speeds have a little more immunity than others. That's how it seems, anyway.

Bill, how are the rims? That's the part on 3-speeds that give me the most trouble. Sometimes they're very trashed.

cb400bill 12-02-11 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 13557256)
Bill, how are the rims? That's the part on 3-speeds that give me the most trouble. Sometimes they're very trashed.

They seem structurally OK, just a bit cosmetically challenged. Anything in particular that I should look for?

BTW, Up close, she is no bicycle beauty queen. My plan is for this one to replace a 1993 Raleigh C-50 hybrid as my errand runner.

yellowbarber 12-03-11 11:35 AM

me three.
That's a sweet ride, indeed.

I have a parts question:
I am on the hunt for one or two good steel cotter-pins, two rear reflectors (black or white, don't care) and dust caps for 60's pedals.

Fenway 12-03-11 12:14 PM

The best cotters one can buy are from here:
http://bikesmithdesign.com/CotterPress/cotters.html

$1.25-$4.00 each depending on the grade & trust me you should spring for grade A + $5 shipping

Reflectors try GerdVintage:

These are nice rubber ones with a decent plastic reflective lens and a shiny metal reflective disk on the inside. If you want them to reflect even better, cover the shiny disk inside with Scotchlite tape or SOLAS tape.

$10-12 shipped

Black
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Refl...item4ab0f2d64c

White
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Refl...item4ab0f2d660

yellowbarber 12-04-11 12:55 AM

I'd say that's a good deal as I plunked down $6.00 for a ****ty alloy cotterpin from a vintage bike shop (which will remain unnamed here), because one of the original ones was mysteriously replaced with a french pin after getting a little tuneup from a different vintage bike shop (which will also remain unnamed here). Took a bit of looking around before I found Bike Works on Ridge St in the lower east side http://bikecult.com/welcome.html. Really nice folks, and they were fearless about getting the knackered old AW hub working well again.

noglider 12-04-11 06:36 AM

Fenway, thank you for the reflector leads!

yellowbarber 12-04-11 07:39 AM

anybody in for a group buy since they're coming all the way from Thailand?

Super.bee 12-05-11 10:40 AM

Wow, those reflectors are nice. Thanks for passing that along!

I too have found Bike Works on Ridge St. to be helpful, and to have the odd vintage part. The owner seems to know best what they have. Recently got a chrome 26" Raleigh chainguard there. It may have been a second long ago (or not), the lettering looks just a little crooked, but it's in nice condition. Also check out their cool chainrings page: http://www.bikecult.com/works/chainring.html

noglider 12-05-11 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by yellowbarber (Post 13561388)
anybody in for a group buy since they're coming all the way from Thailand?

Yes, I'd like two.


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