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Velocivixen 11-12-15 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by redfoxdogs (Post 18312190)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=487541

Not 40 miles but about 9 into the wind and up and down the rolling hills. More than 200 feet gain according to my cell phone. Enough for me at this point, but would be very easy to do triple the miles on the flat with less wind, even on this little bike.


Oh, and I did get the Wald 880 bars for this bike. They work just fine.

What a great looking bike. My Raleigh Twenty was originally that color and is getting powder coated now a deep shimmer green. I'm debating on what I want to do with the handlebars and yours look like a good match to the original. Would you mind posting a few side by side or comparison shots of original bar with the new Wald, or describe how they're similar/different?

Thanks for posting your bike. It's inspiring.

Velocivixen 11-12-15 10:27 AM

This $45 Raleigh Sport might be my winter project! My favorite color too!

Vintage Raleigh Sports 3spd

thumpism 11-12-15 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 18313329)
Are you going after it? I sure would.

I love the idea of the Raleigh Tourist but am not enamored of the reality. Not a fan of the rod brakes in real life, don't have time or space for a project right now. Price is not so low I could flip it soon enough for enough money to make that worthwhile.

Fidbloke 11-12-15 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by oldbicycles (Post 18312804)

What is this faint registration stamp on the top of the front fender? City registration? Or manufacturing related?
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/620/2...ce556796_z.jpg

I think it's a Registered Design Number. Essentially, it's a Copyright thing.
You don't seem to see it as much nowadays, but we don't manufacture as many items in Britain as we once did...

dweenk 11-12-15 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 18313147)
A real DL from the local CL:

Raleigh Archer 3 speed

Raleigh Archer 3 speed - $150 (Richmond)

http://images.craigslist.org/00a0a_a...rD_600x450.jpg

This beautiful antique Raleigh Archer 3 speed Bycicle hand crafted in nottingham England has a little rust but is in complete original condition.
A bit of a Dimond in the rough... yet with a little bit of touching up and love you can make this pice of history come back to life.

One of the best things about this beauty is the pump is still here and the brakes still work great!
Serious inquires only.
Text or call show contact info

Richmond seems to be a good place to pick up a vintage Raleigh for reasonable $$. I bought a Raleigh Sports a couple of weeks ago that was on CL in Richmond. A friend who lives there conducted the deal and got it for $25. He'll bring it to me over Thanksgiving when he visits relatives here. I noticed several good 3 speed deals in that area.

adventurepdx 11-12-15 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 18313675)
This $45 Raleigh Sport might be my winter project! My favorite color too!

Vintage Raleigh Sports 3spd

That's a nice lookin' one.
http://images.craigslist.org/00y0y_2...Px_600x450.jpg

A few other ones of note in Portland CL world:

A small camelback model, only $50, apparently being sold at/by Velo Cult.
Vintage Raleigh 3 Speed Cruiser
http://images.craigslist.org/01111_j...sb_600x450.jpg

A nineties era Raleigh three speed??
Beautiful 90's Raleigh 3 speed
http://images.craigslist.org/00v0v_h...jE_600x450.jpg

adventurepdx 11-12-15 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by gna (Post 18312940)
Not soon enough for me. Just have to make it through the winter.

Aw, come on. Get resourceful. Three speed fat biking! ;)

Velocivixen 11-12-15 11:39 AM

@adventurepdx - I thought that "camelback" had a bent top tube. The final one would be too big for me.

Educate me on Camelback.

adventurepdx 11-12-15 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 18313872)
@adventurepdx - I thought that "camelback" had a bent top tube.

Does this not have a bent top tube? Look closely.
http://images.craigslist.org/01111_j...sb_600x450.jpg


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 18313872)
The final one would be too big for me.

True, but other people can buy that bike too! ;)

Salubrious 11-12-15 11:48 AM

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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=487696
1953 Humber Sports. Equipped with CR-18s, 46 tooth chainring (instead of the stock 48 tooth unit), 19T on the rear, alloy body FW hub (so low is about the same as if the bike was equipped with an AW with 22 teeth.

oldbicycles 11-12-15 11:48 AM

Fidbloke, thank you!

adventurepdx 11-12-15 11:53 AM

Here's the other two pics from the CL ad, shows the bent top tube better.
http://images.craigslist.org/00x0x_9...Na_600x450.jpg
http://images.craigslist.org/00d0d_d...wB_600x450.jpg

adventurepdx 11-12-15 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 18313911)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=487696
1953 Humber Sports. Equipped with CR-18s, 46 tooth chainring (instead of the stock 48 tooth unit), 19T on the rear, alloy body FW hub (so low is about the same as if the bike was equipped with an AW with 22 teeth.

Nice one!

redfoxdogs 11-12-15 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 18313630)
What a great looking bike. My Raleigh Twenty was originally that color and is getting powder coated now a deep shimmer green. I'm debating on what I want to do with the handlebars and yours look like a good match to the original. Would you mind posting a few side by side or comparison shots of original bar with the new Wald, or describe how they're similar/different?

Thanks for posting your bike. It's inspiring.


http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=487699

Here are the original handlebars. The Wald 880 are higher, more swept back and the handle area tips down. They are mini ape-hanger bars. I have to be upright most of the time or the back of my neck/spine hurts. I still bend over for pushing if I want. I also have soft plastic grips, the old hunt-wilde stingray type that are extremely comfortable. I will try to get some comparison shots in a few days. It is too dark and dreary for my cell phone to get good garage shots for the next couple of days.

Velocivixen 11-12-15 12:10 PM

@adventurepdx - yes the bent top tube is obvious but when you referred to it as "camelback" I thought it was a model designed to be that way.

adventurepdx 11-12-15 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 18314014)
@adventurepdx - yes the bent top tube is obvious but when you referred to it as "camelback" I thought it was a model designed to be that way.

Sorry if I misled. I don't think there has ever been a "camelback" model, just that the bent top tube equals camelback. Looks to be a Sports.

Velocivixen 11-12-15 01:34 PM

I'm now the proud owner of a 1974 Raleigh Sport, if the hub is original. I paid $25! Surface rust only. The hubs, bb, and AW 3 speed hub are all sluggish and will need service. Happily the seat post and stem are not stuck! So I'll post photos once I have time.

BigChief 11-12-15 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 18313872)
@adventurepdx - I thought that "camelback" had a bent top tube. The final one would be too big for me.

Educate me on Camelback.

Hard to tell from the picture if the camelback Raleigh has 24" or 26" wheels. If 26" it would be the compact frame Colt model. I believe 19" frame. 24" wheels would make it the Space Rider. Even smaller frame.

adventurepdx 11-12-15 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 18314366)
Hard to tell from the picture if the camelback Raleigh has 24" or 26" wheels. If 26" it would be the compact frame Colt model. I believe 19" frame. 24" wheels would make it the Space Rider. Even smaller frame.

Look carefully at the chainguard, you'll see it's a Sports, so should be 26". Of course, the chainguard might not be original, but it does match the rest of the paint, so I would hazard the guess that it is indeed a Sports.

dweenk 11-12-15 03:10 PM

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Raleigh did make a camelback - like this:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=487730

Photo from Ratrodbikes.

adventurepdx 11-12-15 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 18314594)
Raleigh did make a camelback

I think the confusion I created was because I said camelback model. Yep, Raleigh did make "camelback" style frames, but there is no specific "model", i.e. there is no "Raleigh Camelback" in a catalog(ue). The Colt did use a camelback frame in the "boys" models, but it was not called Raleigh Colt Camelback, as far as I know. Of course I could be wrong...

dweenk 11-12-15 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by adventurepdx (Post 18314614)
I think the confusion I created was because I said camelback model. Yep, Raleigh did make "camelback" style frames, but there is no specific "model", i.e. there is no "Raleigh Camelback" in a catalog(ue). The Colt did use a camelback frame in the "boys" models, but it was not called Raleigh Colt Camelback, as far as I know. Of course I could be wrong...

Ah, I misunderstood your post. AFAIK Raleigh used that frame style on a few 24" and 26" models.

adventurepdx 11-12-15 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 18314652)
Ah, I misunderstood your post. AFAIK Raleigh used that frame style on a few 24" and 26" models.

No worries.

In any case, someone should buy that bike!

dweenk 11-12-15 04:02 PM

Was the camelback frame style an effort on Raleigh's part to make a larger frame rideable for a smaller cyclist? The reason I ask is that the cranks on the few models that I have seen appear to be very short.

gna 11-12-15 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Velocivixen (Post 18314014)
@adventurepdx - yes the bent top tube is obvious but when you referred to it as "camelback" I thought it was a model designed to be that way.

It is designed to be that way. The Raleigh Colt, Mountie, and Space Rider all came with a camelback frame. Raleigh called it a drop frame:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroral...9/pages/08.htm
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroral...9/pages/09.htm


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