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ctak 02-25-21 11:18 PM

24" 1986 Trek 700 Tri Series
 
Trek 700 Tri Series frameset with sport touring geometry and Reynolds 531 tubes
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c7c43841e8.jpg

As rebuilt last month to get on the road ASAP: Hunt aero wheelset, Ultegra / Dura Ace drivetrain, Nitto m151 bars and deluxe stem, Michelin 28mm Pro4 Endurance tires, Newbaum's bar tape, Berthoud Aravis saddle, Easton carbon seatpost, etc
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bb221ceacf.jpg

Having since logged ~250 miles, I'm enjoying the whippy feel of 531c with semi slack angles and 42.5cm chainstays... lots of unforgiving tree root asphalt damage in and around Seattle to traverse
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6400479d93.jpg

More than enough clearance in all areas that matter for 32mm GP5000s mounted to Hunt wheels with 19mm internal / 24mm external rim width (pictured below with 28mm Michelins that measure 31mm wide), though regardless of tire choice probably worth noting that the seat stay bridge is high enough that many modern calipers won't reach the brake track. Shimano R650s to the rescue...
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0cac2b516d.jpg

Flickr album with more images

​​​​​Specs in the 1986 Trek catalog

Ross200 02-26-21 05:01 AM

Trek 710-700 series from this era are very underrated.

Nice looking ride!

bikemig 02-26-21 06:54 AM

Trek's sport touring bikes are fine all around bikes, probably my favorite. They are well made, ride well, and tend to be reasonably priced.

I'm a fan. Here is a thread on sports touring bikes that you've likely seen:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...g-bicycle.html

SuperLJ 02-26-21 06:57 AM

A beautiful old bike in excellent condition with smart upgrades. Nothing about that sucks. Nice job!

Clang 02-26-21 07:04 AM

False content warning: where's the "this sucks" part?

Cool bike and I hope you kept that white Concor around!

Classtime 02-26-21 07:30 AM

Nice one in great shape for 250. I thought mine was a 600 but in the same color and a little small for me.

Spaghetti Legs 02-26-21 08:35 AM

I’m missing out on the “sucks” part too. Cool bike and I like the wheels. Never seen those before. I’d like it even more with a shiny alloy or titanium seat post.

Pcampeau 02-26-21 08:49 AM

Yeah, that’s a cool bike! I guess it sucks that you only have one?

3speedslow 02-26-21 08:55 AM

Have they changed the definition of “sucks”, connotative wise?

shoota 02-26-21 08:56 AM

The only thing that sucks about this bike is that it isn't mine. :lol:

On a serious note: I've never seen silver Hunt wheels before. Where did you find those? Are they an older model or something cause I don't see them on their website.

Dan Burkhart 02-26-21 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Clang (Post 21942275)
False content warning: where's the "this sucks" part?!

I think that was the hook. It made me look.

Dylansbob 02-26-21 10:06 AM

I was waiting for the cracked chainstay/headlug/seatcluster to be discovered after the first ride.

Fahrenheit531 02-26-21 10:12 AM

Check the wall behind the bike. ;)

ctak 02-26-21 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 21942448)
Have they changed the definition of “sucks”, connotative wise?


Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart (Post 21942468)
I think that was the hook. It made me look.


Originally Posted by Dylansbob (Post 21942586)
I was waiting for the cracked chainstay/headlug/seatcluster to be discovered after the first ride.

Indeed, nothing about this sucks outside of the explosion of certain counter-cultural activities in my neighborhood
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d2b11522a8.jpg


Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs (Post 21942415)
I’m missing out on the “sucks” part too. Cool bike and I like the wheels. Never seen those before. I’d like it even more with a shiny alloy or titanium seat post.

I have a polished aero seatpost that matches the look of the wheels... Not crazy about the Easton look but it offers notable flex to dampen road chatter. How does Ti feel?

Spaghetti Legs 02-26-21 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by ctak (Post 21942906)
I have a polished aero seatpost that matches the look of the wheels... Not crazy about the Easton look but it offers notable flex to dampen road chatter. How does Ti feel?

I'm not sure I've been able to tell a difference between ride qualities of my different aluminum, Ti, CF posts. any difference in ride qualities I'm sure I would ascribe to the bike and not the post. I think titanium probably is used more for weight savings than any other reason, I would also think that the carbon post on your Trek would contribute very little to absorption of road chatter compared to the steel frame/fork and cushy tires. That's just my $.02 though.

ctak 02-26-21 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Dylansbob (Post 21942586)
I was waiting for the cracked chainstay/headlug/seatcluster to be discovered after the first ride.

Not yet!


Originally Posted by shoota (Post 21942451)
The only thing that sucks about this bike is that it isn't mine. :lol:
On a serious note: I've never seen silver Hunt wheels before. Where did you find those? Are they an older model or something cause I don't see them on their website.

I ordered them direct from Hunt when they were under $500. Basically re-branded silver anodized Kinlin XR-31T rims with a similar aero benefit as Zipp 303s


Originally Posted by Pcampeau (Post 21942436)
Yeah, that’s a cool bike! I guess it sucks that you only have one?

Well to be honest I do have another, identical except for the chainstay bridge :innocent:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8e1569753c.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...61e8c58299.jpg

ctak 02-26-21 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs (Post 21942913)
I'm not sure I've been able to tell a difference between ride qualities of my different aluminum, Ti, CF posts. any difference in ride qualities I'm sure I would ascribe to the bike and not the post. I think titanium probably is used more for weight savings than any other reason, I would also think that the carbon post on your Trek would contribute very little to absorption of road chatter compared to the steel frame/fork and cushy tires. That's just my $.02 though.

Not sure either, but agree that frame flex and tire selection/pressure are the main considerations... and what led to my fascination with Trek's Tri Series trifecta: longer chainstays, clearance for 32s and flexy pipes :love:. Would be curious to see more exhaustive studies on seatpost dampening. The only one I recall is Zinn's 2012 VeloLab test.

Classtime 02-26-21 07:48 PM

Bikes: 1986 TREK 700

OldsCOOL 02-26-21 10:43 PM

Cool bike!

mountaindave 02-26-21 11:43 PM

Those are unusually pretty head tube lugs and the white contrasting color is perfect with the blue. I saw these over in the other Trek 25” thread with the two different chain stay situations. So weird. Since you have two, you should 650b one and see what you like better!

great work!

ctak 02-27-21 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by mountaindave (Post 21943636)
Those are unusually pretty head tube lugs and the white contrasting color is perfect with the blue. I saw these over in the other Trek 25” thread with the two different chain stay situations. So weird. Since you have two, you should 650b one and see what you like better!

great work!

Thanks! the colors warm up quite a bit in natural light, with the blue taking on a cerulean hue; now if only it had thinned and long point lugs like that alluring 710 (1979) of yours. My plan is to rebuild the twin 100% stock to appease the c&v gods :fred: but we'll see

mstateglfr 02-27-21 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by ctak (Post 21942053)
Having since logged ~250 miles, I'm enjoying the whippy feel of 531c with semi slack angles and 42.5cm chainstays... lots of unforgiving tree root asphalt damage in and around Seattle to traverse

That bike has slack angles? I would just assumed it's 73 seat and head angles based on the look and how it's marketed.

Really nice looking frame colors.

ctak 02-27-21 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 21944445)
That bike has slack angles? I would just assumed it's 73 seat and head angles based on the look and how it's marketed.

Really nice looking frame colors.

Relative to my other go-fast cycles (74° - 74.5° angles), at least. I appreciate your point though, 73.5° STA / 73° HTA isn't that slack

mstateglfr 02-27-21 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by ctak (Post 21944664)
Relative to my other go-fast cycles (74° - 74.5° angles), at least. I appreciate your point though, 73.5° STA / 73° HTA isn't that slack

Ha, well yeah it's more relaxed relative to 74.5 for sure.

I really like this era of Trek bikes that have the plug lugs and drop outs. Sure the style saves manufacturing time, but I actually like the look too.
The classic slotted dropouts and seat stay brazed to the side of the seat lug is great, but the plug style is also really cool.

Soody 02-27-21 10:22 PM

at first look i disliked that seatpost but the bike is otherwise so perfect it's a kind of aesthetic flaw that makes the whole thing more charming and states that you ride it rather than look at it


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