'84 & '85 Raleigh Prestige Serial Number Question
I thought the first number of the serial number was supposed to be the year of the frame, I'm not 100% certain of the rest. Any info would be appreciated.
'84 Prestige serial number 4C5S0033 https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1809f4c21c.jpg '85 Prestige serial number 4L5S2243....was this a frame built in '84 but painted and built out in '85? https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9ed4cb7db5.jpg |
Manufacturers typically start building the new models around September, in order to build up inventory, allow for transoceanic shipping and process through the distribution channels, yet still have the first shipments in shops for the lucrative Christmas season. It's very common to find an 'n' model year bicycle built in late 'n-1' year.
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Are there any differences between the 1984 and '85 prestige?
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Originally Posted by brian3069
(Post 21724966)
Are there any differences between the 1984 and '85 prestige?
My (Technically my Dad's) '84.... This is my current project, going through and cleaning and lubing everything and replacing bearings. Hoping to have her on the road in the next couple weeks. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1103c37e5c.jpg My '85 I just picked up, still need to go through this one, but components are in fantastic condition. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c069268ada.jpg |
I know the '85 was part of the Racing USA Series; I had no clue there was an '84 in that regard.
I always thought the 1984 was a Reynolds 531 main triangle in a different scheme. One of the prettiest black bikes I've seen. Exuded class. |
Originally Posted by fords4life
(Post 21724888)
I thought the first number of the serial number was supposed to be the year of the frame, I'm not 100% certain of the rest. Any info would be appreciated.
'84 Prestige serial number 4C5S0033 https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1809f4c21c.jpg '85 Prestige serial number 4L5S2243....was this a frame built in '84 but painted and built out in '85? https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9ed4cb7db5.jpg |
I have one of each year currently. The decals are the only difference. The only other difference between the four models between the years seems to be that the Supercourse paint changed from a metallic blue in '84 to the "black raspberry" in '85.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
(Post 21725938)
I know the '85 was part of the Racing USA Series; I had no clue there was an '84 in that regard.
I always thought the 1984 was a Reynolds 531 main triangle in a different scheme. One of the prettiest black bikes I've seen. Exuded class. The Racing USA series was introduced in 1984 to coincide with the '84 Olympics. Raleigh of America was the US cycling team sponsor. RoA started building the higher end frames with Reynolds 531 in 1986. I'm pretty sure the frames in previous years where built with Raleigh 555 tubing. |
Originally Posted by fords4life
(Post 21724888)
I thought the first number of the serial number was supposed to be the year of the frame, I'm not 100% certain of the rest. Any info would be appreciated.
'84 Prestige serial number 4C5S0033 '85 Prestige serial number 4L5S2243....was this a frame built in '84 but painted and built out in '85? The sequence of letters used for the month are not necessarily continuous. Some letters may be skipped. The first serial number is 1984 March as the date of frame manufacture. Probably a 1984 model year. The second serial number is 1984 for the year and the month letter "L" is possibly October, November, or December. Anyway, manufactured late in the year 1984, so possibly for a 1985 model. Edit: My estimate for the month in the second serial number is based on observation of over 40 of this type of Raleigh serial number. |
Originally Posted by brian3069
(Post 21725981)
The Racing USA series was introduced in 1984 to coincide with the '84 Olympics. Raleigh of America was the US cycling team sponsor. RoA started building the higher end frames with Reynolds 531 in 1986. I'm pretty sure the frames in previous years where built with Raleigh 555 tubing.
Another interesting anomaly are the 1984-1985 Levi's-Raleigh team frames used by some Olympians. They were built in Canada by Marinoni using Columbus SL/SP tubing. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...867bbf7911.jpg |
I happen to live in Raleigh/Racing USA heaven and around here we’ve never even seen a 1985 serial number on a Prestige or a Competition, no matter how they’re decaled. I’m beginning to wonder if 85s even exist. I have 3 Prestiges and 2 competitions in my shop right now and every one them has an 84 serial number. Four out of the five have the 1985 decal scheme. Even here on bike forums I’ve yet to see an 85 serial # posted anywhere. Am I missing something? Did they make them all for both years in 84 with only a decal switch on the Prestige and a decal plus fork crown change on the Competition? Does anyone have an 85 serial #? Not that this matters at all, I’m just curious.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e7eab3ca7.jpeg 85 decals 84 serial number https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...39b47224e.jpeg 85 decals 84 serial number https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fa90726b4.jpeg 85 decals 84 serial number https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...33857f364.jpeg 84 decals 84 serial number https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3fc7a0afa.jpeg 85 decals 84 serial number |
@Pcampeau,
These are links to Raleigh's with 1985 manufacture date serial numbers. One Competition model, no Prestige. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...m-america.html https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ix-racing.html https://budgetbicyclectr.com/vintage...ycle-58cm.html https://www.bikeforums.net/g/album/9942189 The economics of sourcing bicycle frames from Japan changed in 1985 when the Japanese Yen was revalued against other currencies. |
Originally Posted by Hummer
(Post 21769986)
@Pcampeau,
These are links to Raleigh's with 1985 manufacture date serial numbers. One Competition model, no Prestige. https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...m-america.html https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ix-racing.html https://budgetbicyclectr.com/vintage...ycle-58cm.html https://www.bikeforums.net/g/album/9942189 The economics of sourcing bicycle frames from Japan changed in 1985 when the Japanese Yen was revalued against other currencies. |
Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 21765924)
There was version of Raleigh 555 that was basically rebranded Reynolds 531C. It was introduced for the 1984 model year and called 555RSL. The decals indicate a manganese-molybdenum alloy and state Ti Reynolds manufacture. The frame were manufactured in England by Raleigh. Other grades of Raleigh 555 appear to based on various Tange tubesets.
Another interesting anomaly are the 1984-1985 Levi's-Raleigh team frames used by some Olympians. They were built in Canada by Marinoni using Columbus SL/SP tubing. Yeah, the wife is going to have to be careful what she sells for what if I kick-off, lots of things that look the same... https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...217be9330e.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...884289e9ae.jpg |
Originally Posted by Pcampeau
(Post 21767217)
IlDid they make them all for both years in 84 with only a decal switch on the Prestige and a decal plus fork crown change on the Competition? Does anyone have an 85 serial #?
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c37210e122.jpg |
The 1985 Yen revaluation would have had to no effect on the 1985 models as the Plaza Accord didn't happen until September.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 21773153)
The 1985 Yen revaluation would have had to no effect on the 1985 models as the Plaza Accord didn't happen until September.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar
(Post 21765924)
Another interesting anomaly are the 1984-1985 Levi's-Raleigh team frames used by some Olympians. They were built in Canada by Marinoni using Columbus SL/SP tubing.
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I just picked up what appears to be an all-original 1985 Prestige. I'll have to check the serial number when I take delivery.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cc0fbb7f47.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eeea22a9e8.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...65d0bbe5f2.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9444a90d0f.jpg |
Very nice jonnyace! That one looks like it’ll be perfect after you knock the dust off of it.
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