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WhyFi 04-22-20 10:30 AM

Car crap is all taken care of but, as predicted, my enthusiasm for a ride has dwindled. The service was going to take a little than I'd initially expected, so I decided to walk home (3.5 miles) and then I took the bus back when it was finished. The walk didn't tire me out or anything, but it did take the edge off of that I-need-to-expend-some-energy-or-I'm-going-to-lose-my-mind feeling. Maybe I'll take care of a few things around the house and then see if the stir-crazies bubble up again.

abshipp 04-22-20 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21432613)
Can't ride from the shop - need the cargo room for the summer tires and no bike rack.


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21433021)
I decided to walk home (3.5 miles) and then I took the bus back when it was finished.

Time for a folder?

Or maybe a mini-velo?

datlas 04-22-20 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21432914)
Santa Clara. There were 50 positives in a sample of >3000 asymptomatic responders to a FB ad. Also interesting was a >13% positive rate in women admitted to a labor and delivery service at a Manhattan hospital. Both of these are likely overestimates of the prevalence of antibodies in the population. The NIAID has a 10,000 person serosurvey underway too. We'll have a better understanding soon. All that said, there is major concern about the specificity of the existing antibody tests, all of which may cross-react with other coronaviruses, thereby inflating the estimates.

True. And the HUGE question is how long do we have acquired immunity?

WhyFi 04-22-20 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21433070)
Time for a folder?

Or maybe a mini-velo?

For the twice-per-year tire swap? I admire your powers of bike justification, but I'd rather bend that logic towards something more fun.

Bah Humbug 04-22-20 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21433070)
Time for a folder?

Or maybe a mini-velo?

Or do what I did for that situation and run. Simpler and an easy way to handle a few miles.

Velo Vol 04-22-20 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21433021)
I decided to walk home (3.5 miles)

Estimated average power?

WhyFi 04-22-20 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21433102)
Estimated average power?

Sadly, no wattage estimates. This is the best that I can do -

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4570b12d2e.jpg

Bah Humbug 04-22-20 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21433078)
True. And the HUGE question is how long do we have acquired immunity?

So here's a sequence of dumb questions for you and MoAlpha and any other docs in the house.

1) If getting the disease does not confer immunity, can a vaccine confer immunity?
2) If getting the disease only confers temporary immunity, can a vaccine also only confer temporary immunity?
3) If all of the above is true, is it likely that subsequent infections are less likely to cause the severe symptoms? Obviously this will be an extrapolation.

Because if this can be reacquired, a vaccine can't stop it, and it continues to play Russian roulette with your lungs... we're just done.

ls01 04-22-20 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 21432629)
She was fine.


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21433093)
Or do what I did for that situation and run. Simpler and an easy way to handle a few miles.

Perv

rjones28 04-22-20 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21433093)
Or do what I did for that situation and run. Simpler and an easy way to handle a few miles.

It's super windy today, but the sun is out. I'm going for a short run. :twitchy:

ls01 04-22-20 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21433116)
Sadly, no wattage estimates. This is the best that I can do -

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4570b12d2e.jpg

hmph. Doesnt look up hill....

Velo Vol 04-22-20 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21433116)
Sadly, no wattage estimates. This is the best that I can do -

Is the "+" for the bottom figures necessary? Is it possible to have negative steps?

WhyFi 04-22-20 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21433138)
Is the "+" for the bottom figures necessary? Is it possible to have negative steps?

Put it in reverse and you can spin back the odometer.

WhyFi 04-22-20 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21433147)
Put it in reverse and you can spin back the odometer.

Didn't work for Cameron.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d92f531ab7.gif

abshipp 04-22-20 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21433087)
For the twice-per-year tire swap? I admire your powers of bike justification, but I'd rather bend that logic towards something more fun.

Always here to help :thumb:

I can't see myself ever owning a folding bike or a mini-velo. That VO one is the best I've ever seen, but when frames start to get as big as I need the "mini" part kind of starts to go away...

datlas 04-22-20 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21433124)
So here's a sequence of dumb questions for you and MoAlpha and any other docs in the house.

1) If getting the disease does not confer immunity, can a vaccine confer immunity?
2) If getting the disease only confers temporary immunity, can a vaccine also only confer temporary immunity?
3) If all of the above is true, is it likely that subsequent infections are less likely to cause the severe symptoms? Obviously this will be an extrapolation.

Because if this can be reacquired, a vaccine can't stop it, and it continues to play Russian roulette with your lungs... we're just done.

1. Maybe, depends on the antigen in the vaccine.
2. Maybe, see above
3. Maybe

Obviously there is much we don’t know. I spoke briefly to our county health commissioner yesterday and asked if there is any sense on how long acquired immunity lasts, and she said they think “months” but we don’t really know.

I also expressed my disappointment that the health dept is not offering mass testing and does not seem to even be planning for it (which IMO they should), she agreed it should be done but said the barriers are all coming from the federal authorities. Sad.

datlas 04-22-20 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 21433134)
It's super windy today, but the sun is out. I'm going for a short run. :twitchy:

Running is stupid. Don’tcha know?

WhyFi 04-22-20 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21433164)
I also expressed my disappointment that the health dept is not offering mass testing and does not seem to even be planning for it (which IMO they should), she agreed it should be done but said the barriers are all coming from the federal authorities. Sad.

But they've been graded 10/10. :foo:

WhyFi 04-22-20 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21433167)
Running is stupid. Don’tcha know?

Unless bears and/or killer bees are involved.

datlas 04-22-20 11:46 AM

It’s PUMP day!


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8f6e2065a.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f344b97f8.jpeg

abshipp 04-22-20 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21433093)
Or do what I did for that situation and run. Simpler and an easy way to handle a few miles.

I have run 3 miles once.

I did not enjoy a single bit of it.

I don't think I've ever enjoyed a run, but I always wished I could.

Just curious - years ago in college I lived with a runner who also worked at a shoe store, I went in and she watched the way I walked and fitted me to a pair of shoes that supposedly would help with whatever anatomical weirdness was going on in my feet. How necessary is going through something like that for someone who would maybe want to get into trail running? I have zero interest in pounding pavement, but trail/off-road running vaguely interests me. I know that I'm much fussier about my road bike fit than I am with a MTB, is there a parallel there in the running world? Could you get away with a "worse" fitting shoe if the terrain varies a lot more?

WhyFi 04-22-20 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21433173)
It’s PUMP day!

Nice! I got my Lezyne yesterday. Quite frankly, it was a little larger than expected.

WhyFi 04-22-20 11:51 AM

If ever there was a time for a 'TWSS'....

ls01 04-22-20 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21433180)
If ever there was a time for a 'TWSS'....

give a guy a chance, will ya....

Velo Vol 04-22-20 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21433164)
Obviously there is much we don’t know. I spoke briefly to our county health commissioner yesterday and asked if there is any sense on how long acquired immunity lasts, and she said they think “months” but we don’t really know..

Isn't this just another way of asking how fast the virus evolves?

Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21433174)
I have zero interest in pounding pavement, but trail/off-road running vaguely interests me.

SMH


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