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Dsprok 12-17-17 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 20057522)

Just needs a Christmas Tree beside it.:love:

thumpism 12-18-17 05:33 AM

Nice couple on the local CL. Too bad the seats are gone. Someone probably bought the original leather saddles, leaving this.

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...428600078.html

Matching Mens & Womens Raleigh Sport 3 Speeds - $150 (Chester)

https://images.craigslist.org/00p0p_...Ef_600x450.jpg

condition: excellent
make / manufacturer: Raleigh
model name / number: Sports 3 speeds

Great winter rehab project, these vintage Raleighs are in excellent condition. The original seats are gone but I have a pair of very comfortable cruiser saddles for them. Very little effort would make this a great pair of commuter 3-speeds for any couple ! Call or text show contact info
for more info.

dweenk 12-18-17 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 20059115)
Nice couple on the local CL. Too bad the seats are gone. Someone probably bought the original leather saddles, leaving this.

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...428600078.html

Matching Mens & Womens Raleigh Sport 3 Speeds - $150 (Chester)

https://images.craigslist.org/00p0p_...Ef_600x450.jpg

condition: excellent
make / manufacturer: Raleigh
model name / number: Sports 3 speeds

Great winter rehab project, these vintage Raleighs are in excellent condition. The original seats are gone but I have a pair of very comfortable cruiser saddles for them. Very little effort would make this a great pair of commuter 3-speeds for any couple ! Call or text show contact info
for more info.

Since they have already been parted out (seats), I'd buy the pumps. I just don't need any more bikes.

restlessswind 12-18-17 12:08 PM

I keep looking for a 23" green Sports in decent condition over here (Northern CA) with no luck. This is exactly what I want and at a great price!




Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 20059115)
Nice couple on the local CL. Too bad the seats are gone. Someone probably bought the original leather saddles, leaving this.

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...428600078.html

Matching Mens & Womens Raleigh Sport 3 Speeds - $150 (Chester)

https://images.craigslist.org/00p0p_...Ef_600x450.jpg

condition: excellent
make / manufacturer: Raleigh
model name / number: Sports 3 speeds

Great winter rehab project, these vintage Raleighs are in excellent condition. The original seats are gone but I have a pair of very comfortable cruiser saddles for them. Very little effort would make this a great pair of commuter 3-speeds for any couple ! Call or text show contact info
for more info.


Classtime 12-18-17 12:40 PM

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Here is a 64 Royal Scot that I cleaned up for my daughter. (I had put together a nice Motobecane Grand Touring with North Road bars etc. but she really wanted a black 3-speed.)
The original housings cleaned up fine. I didn't touch the cables as I kept everything attached to the handle bars. The only non originals are tires, saddle, maybe the grips, and the nut and bolt on the stem clamp. Crazy nice bike for 35 bucks. All it needs is a rear reflector and a light to fit that bracket.

dweenk 12-18-17 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Classtime (Post 20059847)
Here is a 64 Royal Scot that I cleaned up for my daughter. (I had put together a nice Motobecane Grand Touring with North Road bars etc. but she really wanted a black 3-speed.)
The original housings cleaned up fine. I didn't touch the cables as I kept everything attached to the handle bars. The only non originals are tires, saddle, maybe the grips, and the nut and bolt on the stem clamp. Crazy nice bike for 35 bucks. All it needs is a rear reflector and a light to fit that bracket.

That is a nice one. I have seen reflectors on the auction website that may fit. I think they came from Thailand.

BigChief 12-18-17 04:01 PM

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I have a Royal Scot. Hub date 64. These didn't get the fancy reflectors with the rubber case. It's just a regular 2 1/2" plain reflector.

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jman0war 12-18-17 05:52 PM

1) What would you use to remove the rust?
I do have oxalic cystals, but will that eat the paint?

2) How would you re-paint the fenders?

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gster 12-18-17 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Classtime (Post 20059847)
Here is a 64 Royal Scot that I cleaned up for my daughter. (I had put together a nice Motobecane Grand Touring with North Road bars etc. but she really wanted a black 3-speed.)
The original housings cleaned up fine. I didn't touch the cables as I kept everything attached to the handle bars. The only non originals are tires, saddle, maybe the grips, and the nut and bolt on the stem clamp. Crazy nice bike for 35 bucks. All it needs is a rear reflector and a light to fit that bracket.

Very nice bike and a good story. I often fix up ladies' bikes and then find a deserving recipient.

gster 12-18-17 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 20059115)
Nice couple on the local CL. Too bad the seats are gone. Someone probably bought the original leather saddles, leaving this.

https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...428600078.html

Matching Mens & Womens Raleigh Sport 3 Speeds - $150 (Chester)

https://images.craigslist.org/00p0p_...Ef_600x450.jpg

condition: excellent
make / manufacturer: Raleigh model name / number: Sports 3 speeds

Great winter rehab project, these vintage Raleighs are in excellent condition. The original seats are gone but I have a pair of very comfortable cruiser saddles for them. Very little effort would make this a great pair of commuter 3-speeds for any couple ! Call or text show contact info
for more info.

A similar pair here in Toronto (one CCM) for $350.00 CDN.
I think a lot of couples back then decided to get in shape together and bought these bikes as pairs. I suspect that most saw little use.
I bought my wife a nice ladies Superbe to match mine. She rode it to the first Toronto Vintage Bicycle Show and promptly put a for sale sign on it....
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clubman 12-18-17 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by jman0war (Post 20060482)
1) What would you use to remove the rust?
I do have oxalic cystals, but will that eat the paint?

2) How would you re-paint the fenders?

Lot's of info available on OA on this forum

Paint it as best you can? ;)

thumpism 12-18-17 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by restlessswind (Post 20059748)
I keep looking for a 23" green Sports in decent condition over here (Northern CA) with no luck. This is exactly what I want and at a great price!

That men's bike looks like a 21" but the ladies' looks like a 23". I have 23s in each and that men's looks like a smaller frame than the one I have.

johnnyspaghetti 12-19-17 12:05 AM

Question is the 2 1960 bikes i have the Sturmey Archer spoke drop type rims like the others but the spoke area is a satin finish around the center not polished chrome. I tried to look up this but no avail. whats up with that. Not complaining just wonder why? They are very nice.

johnnyspaghetti 12-19-17 12:21 AM

Another ? The DL22L has 3.75 in. pedal width and the DL22 has 4.0 in. wide rubber blocks on the pedal. This poses a problem if salvaging parts. I actually could tell because the step through rode so well but was pinching my shoes with the raised wings that trap the shoe. I just noticed this as the bikes hang there and a tape measure nearby. Narrow shoes are for driving a car.

BigChief 12-19-17 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by jman0war (Post 20060482)
1) What would you use to remove the rust?
I do have oxalic cystals, but will that eat the paint?

2) How would you re-paint the fenders?

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This is how I would handle this fender, just my opinion. I would smooth out the rust on the underside by sanding or wire brush on a drill. Not down to bare steel, just enough to knock off loose rust then brush in a coat of black Rustoleum. If any areas, like the very end looks thin, I would reinforce it with some JB Weld before painting. Personally, for the top surface, I would just give it a coat of wax and leave it at that. I've found that if you wax a bike occasionally and keep it in a reasonably dry place, any rust will stabilize and not get any worse. But if I do decide to patch a painted primary surface, I'll very carefully smooth (somewhat) the rust and paint it over with an artists brush. I use the gloss black because it's easier to remove gloss than add it. The patched spot will stand out because the gloss won't match the rest of the paint, so after a week of drying, I'll use a polishing compound on the whole fender to blend in the patch. Generally, if the gloss of the repair matches the rest of the fender, it will still be noticeable, but it won't jump out at you.

clubman 12-19-17 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 20060973)
Question is the 2 1960 bikes i have the Sturmey Archer spoke drop type rims like the others but the spoke area is a satin finish around the center not polished chrome. I tried to look up this but no avail. whats up with that. Not complaining just wonder why? They are very nice.

You mean Dunlop rim? In my experience, the unpolished centre line rims were common up to the early/mid 50's and went away. Somehow they made their way on to a 60's bike...rebuilt wheels, old stock stashed away?

jman0war 12-19-17 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 20061002)
This is how I would handle this fender, just my opinion. I would smooth out the rust on the underside by sanding or wire brush on a drill. Not down to bare steel, just enough to knock off loose rust then brush in a coat of black Rustoleum. If any areas, like the very end looks thin, I would reinforce it with some JB Weld before painting. Personally, for the top surface, I would just give it a coat of wax and leave it at that. I've found that if you wax a bike occasionally and keep it in a reasonably dry place, any rust will stabilize and not get any worse. But if I do decide to patch a painted primary surface, I'll very carefully smooth (somewhat) the rust and paint it over with an artists brush. I use the gloss black because it's easier to remove gloss than add it. The patched spot will stand out because the gloss won't match the rest of the paint, so after a week of drying, I'll use a polishing compound on the whole fender to blend in the patch. Generally, if the gloss of the repair matches the rest of the fender, it will still be noticeable, but it won't jump out at you.

Thanks, is black Rustoleum basically just spray paint?

BigChief 12-19-17 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by jman0war (Post 20061164)
Thanks, is black Rustoleum basically just spray paint?

No, I use the small can and brush on the paint. For the underside of that fender, I'd brush on 2 coats. Touching up primary surfaces is something I do sparingly. Sometimes it works very well and you have to look closely to see the repair, but usually you can notice it. It depends on where it is on the bike and the condition of the surrounding paint. From the look of this fender, I'd be inclined to paint the underside and just wax the top. There's plenty of paint left, the pinstripes are still intact, but there's lots of small rust spots. Hard to match in a repair. Not that a repair is always a bad thing. I have touched up the edges of fenders. You may not notice it at first glance, but it won't match the rest of the paint exactly. That might be preferable to a bare rust spot. It's a tough call.

restlessswind 12-19-17 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 20060668)
That men's bike looks like a 21" but the ladies' looks like a 23". I have 23s in each and that men's looks like a smaller frame than the one I have.

Thanks for the clarification :)

johnnyspaghetti 12-19-17 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti (Post 20057522)

sold $989

BigChief 12-19-17 09:19 PM

Nah, just relisted. As nice as it is, the world just isn't ready for thousand dollar 3 speeds...thankfully

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-Raleig....c100011.m1850

gster 12-20-17 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 20062701)
Nah, just relisted. As nice as it is, the world just isn't ready for thousand dollar 3 speeds...thankfully

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-Raleig....c100011.m1850

Here's a restoration kit out of Ireland for 466 pounds or close to $1000.00.
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bwilli88 12-20-17 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20063003)
Here's a restoration kit out of Ireland for 466 pounds or close to $1000.00.

or closer to $625

gster 12-20-17 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by bwilli88 (Post 20063107)
or closer to $625

I failed to use the currency converter.....

johnnyspaghetti 12-20-17 12:12 PM

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Against my better judgement I am going to touch up this frame The "made in England" decal is no longer there. The other decals are in OK condition.

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markk900 12-20-17 05:49 PM

I am curious about that restoration kit....how much of the stuff included is even close to the original quality?

johnnyspaghetti 12-20-17 09:47 PM

Fables come & go so does spam

johnnyspaghetti 12-20-17 10:00 PM

Here is the start.

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&i...2912-local0&zw

gster 12-21-17 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by markk900 (Post 20064118)
I am curious about that restoration kit....how much of the stuff included is even close to the original quality?

Most of the parts are sourced from India where Roadster style bikes are still big sellers.
BSA Roadster below. Single speed with rod and lever brakes.
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ThermionicScott 12-21-17 11:36 AM

That rack looks flimsy as hell. :lol:


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