Originally Posted by NormanF
(Post 16865079)
Now you can get alloy rims in the 635 mm size. They make them for the Pashley Guvnor. I imagine alloy rims would lop quite a bit of weight from a DL-1 as well as provide better braking when one upgrades from the rod-pull lever brakes to drum brakes.
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Originally Posted by Salubrious
(Post 16864643)
Are the DLs the Cadillac version? I thought they were the ones that didn't stop :)
I put Sun CR-18s on my Superbe along with new brake pads and stopping really isn't an issue. |
Originally Posted by GordoTrek
(Post 16865085)
the rod brakes are part of the reason i love the bike, no way am i going to take those out... plus i want to keep it as original as possible
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They do stop! A 50 lb bike does have a plush Cadillac ride. A Raleigh roadster will never go fast but when you get up to speed, you enjoy the slow ride so much you forget the bike is built like a limousine. http://www.bikeforums.net/images/smilies/smile.gif I get that... I think I ride my Superbe the most, despite most of my other bikes being faster. |
im not concerned at all with the weight of the bike, if i was i would probably have never even thought about owning a 3 speed, im comfortable with the stopping power, im used to it, and i never ride too fast to require immediate stopping power. i usually ride my sports on the weekend with my dad to go get a cup of coffee. good times..
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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=388242I finally got my Raleigh Sports (the SA hub says it's from 1951) back on the road. It had been damaged after a theft in in the '80s (I've owned it since 1977). I own bikes that go faster and farther with less effort. I own another bike that is a comfortable on short jaunts. But once you swing your leg over and start to ride it you're back in the mid 20th century and you feel like a gentleman on a ride. You're more upright than most any "upright" modern bike and those slack angles are smooth. I considered another sprung Brooks saddle, but I never bonded with the one it once had, thus the suspension seatpost. I keep looking for short (sub 5 mile) rides to places in "Raleigh distance" to go to.
I need to replace the handlebar grips next. And the pedal blocks are worn out. I see Harris has replacement rubber block pedals, but I have big wide feet and am considering a set of wide platforms. Are the pedal threads on Raleighs of this vintage the modern standard? |
Originally Posted by FrankHudson
(Post 16865609)
. Are the pedal threads on Raleighs of this vintage the modern standard?
[edit] Oh, wait..."of this vintage." Might not be. |
Originally Posted by GordoTrek
(Post 16864589)
thinking of selling my 75 Coffee colored raleigh sports to raise funds for my 67 DL-1 build.. ive figured that the parts i need are around 150, so i was thinking i should liquidate one 3 speed for the other.. is that sacrelig ? i don't ride my sports enough to warrant 2 3 speeds, and honestly why have a buick when you own a cadilac? thoughts?
bike in question http://i.imgur.com/2FUd6PL.jpg |
Originally Posted by SirMike1983
(Post 16866400)
They ride differently, which you mentioned. The DL-1's frame angle cannot be overlooked. It gives a different feel to the ride than the Sports has. I actually notice less difference in the wheel size and more in the frame angles of the DL-1 versus the Sports. I have examples of both types and like them each for what they are. I will admit I find the Sports more comfortable because I like a bike that is a little closer together than a DL-1. I don't look on the DL-1 as higher quality or higher luxury than the Sports, just different. Some people really like the open angles more, some don't.
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Originally Posted by FrankHudson
(Post 16865609)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=388242I finally got my Raleigh Sports (the SA hub says it's from 1951) back on the road. It had been damaged after a theft in in the '80s (I've owned it since 1977). I own bikes that go faster and farther with less effort. I own another bike that is a comfortable on short jaunts. But once you swing your leg over and start to ride it you're back in the mid 20th century and you feel like a gentleman on a ride. You're more upright than most any "upright" modern bike and those slack angles are smooth. I considered another sprung Brooks saddle, but I never bonded with the one it once had, thus the suspension seatpost. I keep looking for short (sub 5 mile) rides to places in "Raleigh distance" to go to.
I need to replace the handlebar grips next. And the pedal blocks are worn out. I see Harris has replacement rubber block pedals, but I have big wide feet and am considering a set of wide platforms. Are the pedal threads on Raleighs of this vintage the modern standard? You're in Minnesota; you should consider the next "Lake Pepin 3-Speed Tour" on that bike! |
That tour looks like a great event. Now if I can winter cycle enough next winter (heck, this year spring cycling was still winter cycling) maybe I can be in good enough shape for next May.
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Originally Posted by arex
(Post 16866034)
Yeah, 9/16", 20tpi. A lot of pedals will fit.
[edit] Oh, wait..."of this vintage." Might not be. |
Originally Posted by FrankHudson
(Post 16868499)
That tour looks like a great event. Now if I can winter cycle enough next winter (heck, this year spring cycling was still winter cycling) maybe I can be in good enough shape for next May.
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Originally Posted by FrankHudson
(Post 16868505)
Well I think I'm going to try and I'll be gentle in case the treading doesn't match. The pedal bearings are still smooth turning, but the metal ends are now way above worn rubber blocks.
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Been looking for a Raleigh Sports for both my wife and I for a few months, and low and behold one night while perusing craigslist I found these two gems that were listed for only $75 each! I immediately emailed the owner to ask if they were still for sale that that I would take them just from looking at the one fairly grainy photograph on the ad. I actually offered him more than he was asking in the hopes that he would hold them for me for a week until I could make the 4 hour one way trip to get them and as it turns out he was willing.
We picked them up yesterday and they appear to be 100% original down to the included documentation(which he said was never even removed from the bags on saddles) and even the "Calypso Coffee" touch up paint! The owners were an older couple that had bought them in the early 70s(hubs show 72 and 73 so I'm guessing model year 73s) and ridden them a handful of times total. They have been in their temperature/humidity controlled basement for over 20 years! Not even in their beautiful garage, but the basement. The Brooks B72s are in pristine condition, all of the chrome is beautiful with no pitting, not a spec of rust, and the paint only has a few dings here and there. I haven't had a chance to clean them up, but they really don't need much of a cleaning! Original tires need to be replaced and the ladies bike is missing a tube, but I aired up the men's 23" and took it for a few miles this morning! Love them and hopefully this will be my wife's gateway drug to (vintage) bikes! I'll do a full post on the pair when I get them cleaned up and refurbed a bit, but for now I wanted to show off my score! -H http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=388979http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=388980 |
Originally Posted by hillikus
(Post 16874196)
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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=388979http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=388980 (PS - Make sure you re-grease all those bearings before riding- 40 years in even in a humidity controlled basement doesn't do anything to help the lubrication along). |
Originally Posted by auchencrow
(Post 16874222)
Whoa, @hillikus, what a nice score! It looks like you snagged the larger frame for yourself too - Probably 8 out of 10 are the smaller size.
(PS - Make sure you re-grease all those bearings before riding- 40 years in even in a humidity controlled basement doesn't do anything to help the lubrication along). Excellent score! |
Thanks and yes I did score a 23" frame and being 6'1" that's what I was hoping for. The plan for now is to repack and regrease everything and right now I'm trying to figure out the best oil for the AW3. Heard 30 weight, ATF and a few other suggestions but haven't narrowed it down yet.
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I wouldn't use ATF. Sure, it lubricates an auto transmission just fine, but it's meant to be doing so while pressurized...something you won't see on a bike. It's relatively thin, and I'd worry about it washing the grease out of the bearings.
Nice bikes, btw. |
Originally Posted by hillikus
(Post 16874706)
right now I'm trying to figure out the best oil for the AW3. Heard 30 weight, ATF and a few other suggestions but haven't narrowed it down yet.
Sheldon Brown on IGH lubrication: "Use machine oil, not a spray lube or other thin oil. Unless a hub has sealed bearings, also use grease, to form a seal at the bearings and help keep the oil in." Internal-Gear Hubs I use Phil Tenacious oil after the outboard bearings have been lubricated with a good quality grease. A 30WT non-detergent oil works fine, like lawn mower oil. Good excuse to get an old fashioned hand pump oiler w/ a long flexible neck to add the few drops of oil every so often and avoid making a mess. Find a proper old school LBS that has a cotter pin press to remove them to service the BB, those OEM cotters are excellent quality and are getting rare & expensive. -Bandera |
Originally Posted by GordoTrek
(Post 16865085)
the rod brakes are part of the reason i love the bike, no way am i going to take those out... plus i want to keep it as original as possible
Although the rims on my Raleigh Tourist are badly corroded, I'm open to alternatives. Re-chrome cost is out of the question. Do you think it would be odd to take the rims off, strip and just paint them? The bike is black so I was thinking of a splash of color, perhaps dark green, or burgundy and then pin stripe the edge. Of course the area where the pads contact is of no real concern. |
yellowjersey sells replacement rims.. price isn't terrible, considering i don't know anywhere else to find parts for these things.
http://www.yellowjersey.org/eastbits.html |
Originally Posted by SirMike1983
(Post 16866400)
They ride differently, which you mentioned. The DL-1's frame angle cannot be overlooked. It gives a different feel to the ride than the Sports has. I actually notice less difference in the wheel size and more in the frame angles of the DL-1 versus the Sports. I have examples of both types and like them each for what they are. I will admit I find the Sports more comfortable because I like a bike that is a little closer together than a DL-1. I don't look on the DL-1 as higher quality or higher luxury than the Sports, just different. Some people really like the open angles more, some don't.
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Originally Posted by ascherer
(Post 16868853)
On my '66, I was planning to do the same, but the new pedals (well, maybe they were NOS Union pedals, I don't recall) weren't built as well so I disassembled both and just used the blocks on the original pedal body.
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Originally Posted by FrankHudson
(Post 16875622)
Hmmm. That's a thought. I have wide feet though. There's some comfort in a wide platform like I run on my other bikes.
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