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DougRNS 10-09-21 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22263364)
Well, wish we could wait, but itís not suppose to get better until 2023.

As soon as the company announced the bonus money my car blew up, so we are down to one car.

My car will cost about 2000 to fix, but itís not worth 1500. I donít think I can trade in a broken car.


My wife just needs to decide whatís important to her. Not having a car payment or having something better than basic. She deserves more than basic but sheís also in charge of the money situation and knows what gets paid when and where. Iím a bystander.

I want her to be happy, and not to have buyer remorse, and if the cost to have what she wants is 6 thousand more, I think she should do it.

I understand but maybe think as hard how to make it work another way and you might find a solution. It's sounds like you don't use your car much. Just a thought. More free advice...

DougRNS 10-09-21 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22263369)
Ultimately, do whatís best for you, donít listen to us, everyoneís situation is different.

Did you guys try the outback? Iím a big Subie fan

I've heard they burn oil like Willie Nelson burns the cannabis weed. According to my brother who has one and is a mechanic.

DougRNS 10-09-21 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22263374)
I've heard they burn oil like Willie Nelson burns the cannabis weed. According to my brother who has one and is a mechanic.

or according to Abraham Lincoln

bampilot06 10-09-21 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22263369)
Ultimately, do whatís best for you, donít listen to us, everyoneís situation is different.

Did you guys try the outback? Iím a big Subie fan


we are going to try and test ride one today.

DougRNS 10-09-21 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22263360)
Got that from a Country song.

maybe this one?

bampilot06 10-09-21 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22263372)
I understand but maybe think as hard how to make it work another way and you might find a solution. It's sounds like you don't use your car much. Just a thought. More free advice...

Before I Switched companies I wouldnít have needed a car, but once I start actually flying I will have to have a car.

Plus I want to drive back to dallas this time around. I wonít have time to fly home, and 4 weeks with out car access is a long time.

phrantic09 10-09-21 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22263374)
I've heard they burn oil like Willie Nelson burns the cannabis weed. According to my brother who has one and is a mechanic.

i think thatís true of the early-mid 2010s models, the 2020+ Outbackís have a new engine IIRC


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22263378)
we are going to try and test ride one today.

You get a lot of safety stuff standard on even the base Outback.

DougRNS 10-09-21 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22263279)
Same.

Would you mow someone else's lawn in the rain?

DougRNS 10-09-21 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22263382)
i think that’s true of the early-mid 2010s models, the 2020+ Outback’s have a new engine IIRC



You get a lot of safety stuff standard on even the base Outback.

I like the look of the outback. Fairly roomy and bike friendly and that's all that matters.
i.e. Nothing else matters.
​​​​#NotAMetalFan

seedsbelize2 10-09-21 07:36 AM

The CRV is as ubiquitous here as the VW bug was a few years ago. Granted, they are made here, and are less expensive than in the US. It would be plenty car for me, but I'm not a middle class American wife.
But our daughter is and she has a new one. Nice car.

The lots here, well we don't really have lots, so it's hard to tell. We have showrooms and the lots are somewhere else. But the showrooms are full and the sales staff is sitting at the desk with no customers every time I'm in there. I guess that could mean they have nothing to sell.

big john 10-09-21 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22263262)
Re car prices, our local Honda dealer is listing all new cars at MSRP plus $1000.

#SaturnForever

When the supercharged Corvettes first came out, our dealer sold several for MSRP + $35K.

phrantic09 10-09-21 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22263388)
When the supercharged Corvettes first came out, our dealer sold several for MSRP + $35K.

Kia Tellurides weíre going 5k over MSRP here the first 6-9 months they were out.

seedsbelize2 10-09-21 07:44 AM

I just wrote another lame reply and chose to not post it. I'm sorry to read of your car buying woes. Does Toyota have anything interesting? I would advise against the Avanza (that might be a Mexico only model)

phrantic09 10-09-21 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22263385)
I like the look of the outback. Fairly roomy and bike friendly and that's all that matters.
i.e. Nothing else matters.
​​​​#NotAMetalFan

Its probably the direction Iíll go unless I get an EV. Have my eye on the VW Id.4 and Q4 eTron, both have about the same cargo room as the Outback and w/ tax credit + NY direct rebate thatís like 10k off the top.

seedsbelize2 10-09-21 07:47 AM

Busy morning for a Saturday. Must be wintertime.

big john 10-09-21 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22263382)
i think thatís true of the early-mid 2010s models, the 2020+ Outbackís have a new engine IIRC



You get a lot of safety stuff standard on even the base Outback.

I had a 1995 Legacy wagon that was a lease and it didn't burn oil. We only put 60K miles on it, though. We could put 2 bikes in the back, stacked with a blanket between them. Great car in the snow. Main problem I had with it is the seat didn't go back far enough. I think that is typical of Subarus and if I would have kept the car I would have tried to modify the seat track for more room.

phrantic09 10-09-21 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22263400)
Busy morning for a Saturday. Must be wintertime.

Too sick to ride in my case.

big john 10-09-21 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22263393)
Kia Tellurides weíre going 5k over MSRP here the first 6-9 months they were out.

We got a stern warning from Chevrolet to stop doing that. They'll still do it sometimes.

big john 10-09-21 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22263410)
Too sick to ride in my case.

Bummer.

rjones28 10-09-21 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 22263285)
For the record, I don't mow wet grass

I have cut dewy grass, finished up in the rain, and (at the end of the season) gotten snowed on.

Mojo31 10-09-21 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22263364)
Well, wish we could wait, but itís not suppose to get better until 2023.

As soon as the company announced the bonus money my car blew up, so we are down to one car.

My car will cost about 2000 to fix, but itís not worth 1500. I donít think I can trade in a broken car.


My wife just needs to decide whatís important to her. Not having a car payment or having something better than basic. She deserves more than basic but sheís also in charge of the money situation and knows what gets paid when and where. Iím a bystander.

I want her to be happy, and not to have buyer remorse, and if the cost to have what she wants is 6 thousand more, I think she should do it.

Itís not like youíd be losing the $6k. Keep in mind the markup on those is only about a few thousand. Itíd be very hard to get $5k off of a $30k vehicle. Unless itís an unpopular car that is not selling and they are trying to clear inventory.

Mojo31 10-09-21 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22263393)
Kia Tellurides weíre going 5k over MSRP here the first 6-9 months they were out.

Still are in places.

Mojo31 10-09-21 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22263396)
Its probably the direction Iíll go unless I get an EV. Have my eye on the VW Id.4 and Q4 eTron, both have about the same cargo room as the Outback and w/ tax credit + NY direct rebate thatís like 10k off the top.

Iím loving the EV around town. Not too crazy about taking it on a trip as doing so requires a lot of planning and allocation of time for charging.

On the plus side - it hasnít burned a drop of oil.

Velo Vol 10-09-21 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22263336)
Same but don't tell vol.

You would get electrocuted.

DougRNS 10-09-21 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22263421)
I have cut dewy grass, finished up in the rain, and (at the end of the season) gotten snowed on.

Epic.


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