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Originally Posted by buck mulligan
(Post 10469891)
Ooooh, pretty! I've got to say, though - as much as I admire your 3-speeds, it was that '76 Grand Prix that caught my eye. You see, my first serious bike was a '76 Grand Prix....
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I've just bought a Raleigh 23" framed Roadster in the dark green, 4 speed Sturmey hub, rim brakes (not rod), 26" wheels. Full chain case, "the all-steel bicycle" transfers, and full lighting kit including rear dynohub and the battery tube thingy on the seat tube.
Got it on ebay for the cost of a new B73 - 77 pounds Stirling. And it comes with a nicely-aged B73. It has an ugly more-modern rear light on it, but luckily I recently bought some fantastic NOS Sturmey lights with the wiring loom for a rear dynohub, so perfect swap. So I am happy I now need to rationalise my collection of bicycles in the UK before going home to NZ in July. I need to sell a 60s BSA 3 speed - great little bike but too small for me. Everything on it works. I need to shed the Raleigh Trent Tourist. It has front dynohub, 3 speed which sticks and I will need to clean the hub and get it going before selling. And I will take the newly-acquired green Raleigh home as my example of the quintessential British bike. And it will sit beside my much older BSA 28" wheeler pathracer replica And I had better stop buying bikes... ...although there is this lovely Carlton mixte 3 speed for sale at home.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=275186927 |
Originally Posted by AL NZ
(Post 10489692)
I've just bought a Raleigh 23" framed Roadster in the dark green, 4 speed Sturmey hub, rim brakes (not rod), 26" wheels. Full chain case, "the all-steel bicycle" transfers, and full lighting kit including rear dynohub and the battery tube thingy on the seat tube.
Got it on ebay for the cost of a new B73 - 77 pounds Stirling. And it comes with a nicely-aged B73. It has an ugly more-modern rear light on it, but luckily I recently bought some fantastic NOS Sturmey lights with the wiring loom for a rear dynohub, so perfect swap. So I am happy I now need to rationalise my collection of bicycles in the UK before going home to NZ in July. I need to sell a 60s BSA 3 speed - great little bike but too small for me. Everything on it works. I need to shed the Raleigh Trent Tourist. It has front dynohub, 3 speed which sticks and I will need to clean the hub and get it going before selling. And I will take the newly-acquired green Raleigh home as my example of the quintessential British bike. And it will sit beside my much older BSA 28" wheeler pathracer replica And I had better stop buying bikes... ...although there is this lovely Carlton mixte 3 speed for sale at home.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=275186927 |
What about standing on the pedals with an AW? I know everyone says not to do it, but I've always assumed that that has to do with the danger of slipping into the "neutral" position between 2 and 3. If so, that suggests to me that it should be fairly safe to stand in 1, which of course is the gear in which you'd be most likely to need extra oomph. Would that in fact be okay? I tend not to stand even in 1, but maybe I'm being too cautious.
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Originally Posted by jonwvara
(Post 10491970)
What about standing on the pedals with an AW? I know everyone says not to do it, but I've always assumed that that has to do with the danger of slipping into the "neutral" position between 2 and 3. If so, that suggests to me that it should be fairly safe to stand in 1, which of course is the gear in which you'd be most likely to need extra oomph. Would that in fact be okay? I tend not to stand even in 1, but maybe I'm being too cautious.
Aaron :) |
How did I never post in this thread?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2074/...ac689290_b.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2058/...a05dd6d872.jpg |
Originally Posted by wahoonc
(Post 10492985)
I stand in 1 all the time. I believe it only can go neutral in 2 or 3. My brother has stitches to prove it, and I have the bike with a replacement fork and crank arm...
Aaron :) |
Originally Posted by wahoonc
(Post 10492985)
I stand in 1 all the time. I believe it only can go neutral in 2 or 3. My brother has stitches to prove it, and I have the bike with a replacement fork and crank arm...
Aaron :) On my old 3 speed road bike I managed to get it up to 56 kmh on a flat run and got it to skip a little in 3rd when I tried to push the bike up to 60 kmh... and I was seated. I have never had any of my other three speeds skip gears on me... making sure that everything is set up properly and that the shifter is working smoothly and does not hang between gear positions. One should check the cable tension regularly... my 10 year old likes to jump curbs on her three speed and has knocked her wheel out of place by just enough to throw off her shifting. Better lock washers solved this issue and I have told her she needs to be a little nicer to her bike. |
Originally Posted by onetwentyeight
(Post 10495073)
How did I never post in this thread?
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I've never seen it before. onetwentyeight, tell us about it.
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I've come to the realization that 3 speeds are inherently noisy. I just went back to the original Brooks vinyl saddle on the Phillips - even after a liberal coating of dry lube, the thing squeaks at every pedal revolution and bump, the rear fender rattles itself loose every 50-100 miles, and the shift lever drives me so unbelievably insane with it's rattling that it's just second nature to stick my hand under it to keep it still while riding.
Speaking of which, is there any way to silence the springs on an old mattress saddle, or to tighten the shifter enough so that the lever doesn't rattle? |
You ought to be able to quiet all of those noises. I don't remember ever hearing a shifter rattling. You may do well to replace it. Or maybe you can take it apart and fashion some sort of plastic bushing in the most rattly area.
Spray lubricant will get rid of a squeaky saddle. |
Originally Posted by mickey85
(Post 10496191)
I've come to the realization that 3 speeds are inherently noisy.
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Originally Posted by mickey85
(Post 10496191)
Speaking of which, is there any way to silence the springs on an old mattress saddle, or to tighten the shifter enough so that the lever doesn't rattle?
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How does one re-peen the rivets? Take a hammer and punch to them?
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Originally Posted by mickey85
(Post 10496758)
How does one re-peen the rivets? Take a hammer and punch to them?
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
(Post 10496021)
I really think that if an AW is set up properly it will not skip under normal conditions and even under high pedaling loads but when you stand up and hammer the pedals you get a little frame flex and this is probably enough to change the cable tension enough to cause it to slip.
On my old 3 speed road bike I managed to get it up to 56 kmh on a flat run and got it to skip a little in 3rd when I tried to push the bike up to 60 kmh... and I was seated. I have never had any of my other three speeds skip gears on me... making sure that everything is set up properly and that the shifter is working smoothly and does not hang between gear positions. One should check the cable tension regularly... my 10 year old likes to jump curbs on her three speed and has knocked her wheel out of place by just enough to throw off her shifting. Better lock washers solved this issue and I have told her she needs to be a little nicer to her bike. |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 10496086)
I've never seen it before. onetwentyeight, tell us about it.
I have more pictures here, including my modified campy cable guides and other nerdy touches. The only changes I've made since the photos is replace the toe straps with some binda extras and replaced the front wheel with a high flange campy track hub laced to an MA2, as I wanted the generator hub for my Jack Taylor Tour of Britain. http://www.flickr.com/photos/onetwen...7604107677034/ |
That's a really pretty bike and I'd love to have it myself (or at least just take it for a spin around the block), but with the super steep drop of the stem, that has got to be the weirdest looking bar/stem combo I've ever seen.
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thank you. Ive tilted the bars down a little since those photos. it feels a lot like an old motorcycle cockpit, low, but with a square wrist position. the frame is a hair big for me so between the back swept bars, moderate saddle height, and the dropped stem I'm pretty comfy. the bike is certainly a weird mashup between vintage race and townie, the cockpit falls in line with the rest. I make no pretense that this is a "proper" build by any means, just a mish mash of things I like that work well together.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3136/...58baf2acd6.jpg this bike let me score the above at the 2008 santa cruz wildcat... it was a prize for speed, not aesthetics. ~30+ miles of both on and off road... The oldest bike by decades. |
That's awesome!
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
(Post 10496021)
I really think that if an AW is set up properly it will not skip under normal conditions and even under high pedaling loads but when you stand up and hammer the pedals you get a little frame flex and this is probably enough to change the cable tension enough to cause it to slip.
On my old 3 speed road bike I managed to get it up to 56 kmh on a flat run and got it to skip a little in 3rd when I tried to push the bike up to 60 kmh... and I was seated. I have never had any of my other three speeds skip gears on me... making sure that everything is set up properly and that the shifter is working smoothly and does not hang between gear positions. One should check the cable tension regularly... my 10 year old likes to jump curbs on her three speed and has knocked her wheel out of place by just enough to throw off her shifting. Better lock washers solved this issue and I have told her she needs to be a little nicer to her bike. Aaron :) |
Originally Posted by jonwvara
(Post 10499283)
It sounds like I don't need to worry so much about standing, at least in low gear. In any case, I'm turning 56 in a couple of months, so my testicles no longer seem quite as indispensable as they once did.
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Originally Posted by Roll-Monroe-Co
(Post 10504767)
You could get one of these: http://www.taipeitradeshows.com.tw/p...7&docno=106843
Does Brookes make a relaxed testicle model like that yet? |
onetwentyeight, that is one heck of a bike. Those levers are Mafac. I had them. They are excellent.
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