Originally Posted by JeanSeb
(Post 13546612)
Doesn't this go against the idea behind Simple Living ? He used what he had and lives comfortably, instead of getting a job to buy something bigger and losing a lot of free time. I actually admire his method.
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^^ Good point. :) It would be great to know if the guy in the article actually likes it this way or if he would go to something bigger if he could afford it. We may never know but oh well. :)
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Originally Posted by JeanSeb
(Post 13546713)
^^ Good point. :) It would be great to know if the guy in the article actually likes it this way or if he would go to something bigger if he could afford it. We may never know but oh well. :)
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17 years ago, we started on raw land, in the mountains of Montana, in a tent. Never in debt. Doesn't get more "simple" than that. It's been a hard 17 years.
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Originally Posted by BicycleSeatsCom
(Post 13547436)
17 years ago, we started on raw land, in the mountains of Montana, in a tent. Never in debt. Doesn't get more "simple" than that. It's been a hard 17 years.
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Wherever I live I do want the ability to stand up while inside.
Living in a conventional van would be better than living in a truck bed with a camper top because there would be access to the radio, the air conditioning, and the electrical socket for the cigarette lighter. It would have at least two seats in the front. There are van seat mounting kits that allow the front seats to swivel. My reasons for wanting to live in a stealthy RV are so I'll always have a home that nobody can kick me out of, and to have my home wherever I travel. If in time I find that I like a certain city or perhaps I prefer to stay in a city for a year or so at a time, I'll build a Tumbleweed tiny house and find places to park it. There are probably plenty of people who wouldn't mind renting their driveway to somebody along with a little bit of water usage. In 2006 my landlord kicked me out so he could put his daughter in the house. Luckily there was a suitable apartment nearby. I actually like it better. I don't want to be at the mercy of a landlord. Even with a lease I don't know if the owner is making payments on this property. One day the bank might decide to evict us all if the owner messes up. Simple living will be a necessity in an RV, at least from the standpoint of possessions. |
Originally Posted by Smallwheels
(Post 13548139)
In 2006 my landlord kicked me out so he could put his daughter in the house. Luckily there was a suitable apartment nearby. I actually like it better. I don't want to be at the mercy of a landlord. Even with a lease I don't know if the owner is making payments on this property. One day the bank might decide to evict us all if the owner messes up.
If you do find yourself in this situation, hang tough. As a tenant, you don't have a lot of rights, but the bank at least has to go through the court to get you evicted--even if you are, in effect, squatting. To avoid the hassle, they'll often pay you cash for your keys. If you're lucky (like I was), this cash will pay your moving expenses. |
Originally Posted by Roody
(Post 13544509)
Just wondering, what kind of improvements have you seen? :)
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I have been living a cluttered life for over 40 years, I rode into this town on a motorcycle. I wish to ride out on a bicycle, and NEVER come back.
But I have all this stuff, is there any hope for me? |
Originally Posted by Smallwheels
(Post 13548139)
Wherever I live I do want the ability to stand up while inside.
Living in a conventional van would be better than living in a truck bed with a camper top because there would be access to the radio, the air conditioning, and the electrical socket for the cigarette lighter. It would have at least two seats in the front. There are van seat mounting kits that allow the front seats to swivel. My reasons for wanting to live in a stealthy RV are so I'll always have a home that nobody can kick me out of, and to have my home wherever I travel. If in time I find that I like a certain city or perhaps I prefer to stay in a city for a year or so at a time, I'll build a Tumbleweed tiny house and find places to park it. There are probably plenty of people who wouldn't mind renting their driveway to somebody along with a little bit of water usage. In 2006 my landlord kicked me out so he could put his daughter in the house. Luckily there was a suitable apartment nearby. I actually like it better. I don't want to be at the mercy of a landlord. Even with a lease I don't know if the owner is making payments on this property. One day the bank might decide to evict us all if the owner messes up. Simple living will be a necessity in an RV, at least from the standpoint of possessions. |
Originally Posted by Nycycle
(Post 13587922)
I am looking at the van with utility trailer, my van is my business office, it full already.
Here are a couple of web sites by a guy who lives in a small cargo trailer. There are also several other pages on one of these sites with different versions of living in vehicles. I think I could do better with an interior design but it doesn't take away from these people and what they have achieved. This guy lives in a tiny cargo trailer. CheapGreenRVLiving CheapRVLiving This is a brief box van story without photos. These sites don't render well on a Mac computer. The owner says they look fine using Windows. I don't know if that's true. If you use Firefox you can remove the photos to read the full articles by right clicking on the page. Select page info. Then in the box that pops up, click the media tab and check the block images box. Then refresh the page. When you're done at the site just go back and undo the block images box. |
Originally Posted by Nycycle
(Post 13587914)
I have been living a cluttered life for over 40 years, I rode into this town on a motorcycle. I wish to ride out on a bicycle, and NEVER come back.
But I have all this stuff, is there any hope for me? |
Originally Posted by Artkansas
(Post 13589077)
Well, sooner or later you're going to have to leave it all behind. What's stopping you now?
I am doing a bit of this currently. Trying to make sure that my surplus gets re-cycled and not landfilled. Craigslist and the Salvation Army are your friend. |
Originally Posted by Smallwheels
(Post 13548139)
Wherever I live I do want the ability to stand up while inside.
Living in a conventional van would be better than living in a truck bed with a camper top because there would be access to the radio, the air conditioning, and the electrical socket for the cigarette lighter. It would have at least two seats in the front. There are van seat mounting kits that allow the front seats to swivel. My reasons for wanting to live in a stealthy RV are so I'll always have a home that nobody can kick me out of, and to have my home wherever I travel. If in time I find that I like a certain city or perhaps I prefer to stay in a city for a year or so at a time, I'll build a Tumbleweed tiny house and find places to park it. There are probably plenty of people who wouldn't mind renting their driveway to somebody along with a little bit of water usage. In 2006 my landlord kicked me out so he could put his daughter in the house. Luckily there was a suitable apartment nearby. I actually like it better. I don't want to be at the mercy of a landlord. Even with a lease I don't know if the owner is making payments on this property. One day the bank might decide to evict us all if the owner messes up. Simple living will be a necessity in an RV, at least from the standpoint of possessions. What's it like to be owned by stuff you don't even have? |
Originally Posted by tony_merlino
(Post 13591759)
What's it like to be owned by stuff you don't even have?
Dreams are what make life worth living. If we all were perfectly happy with what we have then everybody could just sit down and die. If we didn't want to change a thing then we all would have no desire. Desire is the cause of all suffering according to Buddha. Life is change. So I suppose I'm owned by my desires for a different life within a stealthy RV. I don't have it now but it is a dream to which I'm attached. Dreams and desires are motivation for change. I wouldn't suffer too much if all of my possessions were lost in some disaster. As long as my landlord would refund my security deposit quickly I'd get by OK. I'd find a room to rent. Then I'd buy a new cheap laptop computer, some clothes, food preparation supplies, a used bicycle, and get on with my life. To me part of simple living is not owning too much stuff. Last week I sold two 20" studded tires for only $40. It is good that they are out of my living space and the money is in my bank. |
Originally Posted by Smallwheels
(Post 13592323)
I've got my list of less than two-hundred things to keep. All of the other stuff is up for sale. I've got a guy coming by today to buy a motorcycle helmet. Sure I could give all of my stuff away but I want some value from it. I can use that $30 from the helmet sale.
Dreams are what make life worth living. If we all were perfectly happy with what we have then everybody could just sit down and die. If we didn't want to change a thing then we all would have no desire. Desire is the cause of all suffering according to Buddha. Life is change. So I suppose I'm owned by my desires for a different life within a stealthy RV. I don't have it now but it is a dream to which I'm attached. Dreams and desires are motivation for change. I wouldn't suffer too much if all of my possessions were lost in some disaster. As long as my landlord would refund my security deposit quickly I'd get by OK. I'd find a room to rent. Then I'd buy a new cheap laptop computer, some clothes, food preparation supplies, a used bicycle, and get on with my life. To me part of simple living is not owning too much stuff. Last week I sold two 20" studded tires for only $40. It is good that they are out of my living space and the money is in my bank. |
Dang...I could have used the studded 20" tires :(
Aaron :) |
Originally Posted by tony_merlino
(Post 13592495)
I think that's great if it works for you. Do you have any other stuff you'd like to sell cheap? ;)
A picture of a Smooth Hound is on my MySpace page in the photos section. The link is in my signature. |
Yes, still here. Glad? Absolutely! I would make the same move again if I went back in time. We would have bought more land if we knew what was going to happen to land prices. Wow. Since we wouldn't go into debt, we built and expanded as we could afford to with cash. Started a business on that fancy new fangled internet thing and here we are.
Worn down and built up, both. Electricity and Power. Glad I have them now. A well and pump that delivers clean water to the "house". So nice. Being able to shower, be clean and be warm, great. Laundry in a washing machine instead of a 5 gallon bucket, heaven. A warm comfortable bed. Mmmmmm. |
Originally Posted by Roody
(Post 13435159)
True, unless perhaps you're following a raw foods vegetarian diet. Ordinarily, vegetarians and vegans get a lot of their daily prptein from beans and grains--sources that are unavailable to people who don't cook their food.
FML's book was fantastic in its time, but it was written like 40 years ago. Is it pretty outdated by now? About this "owning only one hundred things" stuff. Can I plse count my tools as "one item"? If not I am doomed..:innocent: |
Originally Posted by badmother
(Post 13645555)
About this "owning only one hundred things" stuff. Can I plse count my tools as "one item"? If not I am doomed..:innocent:
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Originally Posted by JeanSeb
(Post 13645699)
It's a bicycle forum, therefore yes. :) And you can count all of your bicycles as one item too. :lol:
Aaron :) |
Originally Posted by badmother
(Post 13645555)
Not quite right. Sprouting the stuff and eating the sprouts is done. Good stuff.
About this "owning only one hundred things" stuff. Can I plse count my tools as "one item"? If not I am doomed..:innocent: http://zenhabits.net/minimalist-fun-the-100-things-challenge/ He also runs a minimalist blog at http://mnmlist.com/ I have read every post and they are all great. I am not completely into some of his views of simplicity but that is the point of simplicity in that we all come to our own part of it. The thing that bring us together is the fact that in some manner (Great or Small) we want to simplify our life. Some people are ok with having "Just in Case" items some completely do not understand the thinking, neither are wrong. That previous thought stems from his post: http://mnmlist.com/in-case As I have already said, all of his post are pretty good and early on, in a specific post (within the second month) he decided that the post on that blog would be no more than 400 words to keep the theme of minimalism going. Just my 2 cent. |
I've decided this week that I should give away some things that I previously wanted to sell. During my week off I'll go through some of the accessible things I have and package them into a few boxes. A friend of mine has a hatchback wagon and can take them to a thrift store or perhaps a charity that can sell or give them away.
I decided that having the extra room and the feeling of moving towards my goal of having less stuff will be worth it. What I wonder about is whether it would be worth it to package my older series of "how to" and "how things work" books and sell them on Amazon. That's about twenty books from an old set of encyclopedias. It would be a shame for me to donate them to a library system and just have them thrown away. I know that is what they do with books they don't want to put on the shelf. Annual library book sales dump the ones that don't sell. |
I'm at that point as well. My thoughts are that since the advent of eBay and CL, people seem to be looking for "deals" and aren't willing to pay the price that something is worth anymore, making it easy to decide to throw (or give) away something instead of going through all the trouble for a few dollars. Just my two cents. :o
Since September, I've been working hard at getting rid of most of my possessions (most are car-related) and I've noticed that even though I'm bringing in more boxes from the storage locker to my bedroom, the pile in my bedroom is getting smaller and smaller. It feels great. I'll organize a garage sale right before leaving on tour for the smaller items that cannot easily be sold on craigslist or recycled. |
Originally Posted by Smallwheels
(Post 13647083)
I've decided this week that I should give away some things that I previously wanted to sell.
Welcome! The Freecycle Network™ is made up of 5,009 groups with 8,862,750 members around the world. It's a grassroots and entirely nonprofit movement of people who are giving (and getting) stuff for free in their own towns. It's all about reuse and keeping good stuff out of landfills. Each local group is moderated by local volunteers (them's good people). Membership is free. To sign up, find your community by entering it into the search box above or by clicking on 'Browse Groups' above the search box. Have fun! |
Freecycle requires membership. I don't really like that. I can give stuff away on Craigslist too. I don't consider myself a member. I just have an account. I don't need to go to a message board and sign up there too.
The local Freecycle message board has only twenty-eight messages this month. I can't read them since it requires membership. So I don't know how many people are actually using it locally. There could be just three people chatting with each other for all I know. Maybe Freecycle works better in larger cities just like Craigslist does. |
Originally Posted by Smallwheels
(Post 13649591)
Freecycle requires membership. I don't really like that. I can give stuff away on Craigslist too. I don't consider myself a member. I just have an account. I don't need to go to a message board and sign up there too.
The local Freecycle message board has only twenty-eight messages this month. I can't read them since it requires membership. So I don't know how many people are actually using it locally. There could be just three people chatting with each other for all I know. Maybe Freecycle works better in larger cities just like Craigslist does. I haven't used freecycle in a few years, so there have probably been some changes. I see that posts on my local group has gone down some, but they'r still in the range of 400 to 600 per month. I 'm not endorsing freecycle, but people are free to look into it and decide for themselves. |
Originally Posted by Roody
(Post 13651194)
You don't need a membership in Freecycle, but yuo do need a membership in Yahoo Groups to view the posts. But yeah, if you'd rather have an account than be a member, go with craigslist. (Of course people have been murdered for using craigslist.) :lol:
I haven't used freecycle in a few years, so there have probably been some changes. I see that posts on my local group has gone down some, but they'r still in the range of 400 to 600 per month. I 'm not endorsing freecycle, but people are free to look into it and decide for themselves. |
Originally Posted by Neil_B
(Post 13651223)
My experience with Freecycle has been that people give away stuff that belongs in a dumpster.... moth-eaten clothing, a bike that didn't even rise to the level of scrap metal, etc. It seemed a mammoth waste of time. Craigslist wasn't much better.
I've had excellent luck both buying and selling from Craigslist, including furniture, musical instruments, clothing, ... |
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