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rjones28 08-01-22 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22594738)
Has Benson been paddleboarding? Apparently large fluffy dogs enjoy it.

https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/stat...12340428496898

She's been on a paddle boat.

big john 08-01-22 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22594852)
Damn. I don't think we have fire ants around here, but they don't sound like a lot of fun.

We do. There are many different types of fire ants. My ex worked in pest control and she said the main types of ants they dealt with were thief, fire, and Argentine ants.
To remember, they said "the thief set fire to Argentina".

Some say ants are going to eventually kill off everything on Earth. Happy Monday.

big john 08-01-22 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22594861)
Following my buddy down a sweet singletrack on Saturday, he pushed aside a thin branch sticking out into the trail as he went by. I didn't see his evasive move, and the branch swung back just in time to for me to run into it. I'm not sure what it was, but it had long thorns and left two 3 inch long slashes across my forearm that oozed blood for the last half hour of our ride. Good times.

Where?

Eric F 08-01-22 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22594879)
Where?

Old Stables Trail off the west side of Sullivan Ridge Rd.

Bah Humbug 08-01-22 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22594876)
We do. There are many different types of fire ants. My ex worked in pest control and she said the main types of ants they dealt with were thief, fire, and Argentine ants.
To remember, they said "the thief set fire to Argentina".

Some say ants are going to eventually kill off everything on Earth. Happy Monday.

They'll have to get in line.

datlas 08-01-22 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 22594917)
They'll have to get in line.

Marching two by two, hurrah?

MoAlpha 08-01-22 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22594837)


I had used the lower type end initially but now using the upper one.

The "tongue" is just to prevent water entry as far as I know. Not a problem at that location.

BillyD 08-01-22 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22594832)
Stuck my hands into a bed of fire ants yesterday, and am feeling it today. About 10 bites, mostly around the webbing of my fingers. :notamused:

Was it on your property, because if it was you have to exact revenge to make sure they recognize who they’re dealing with. :notamused:

genejockey 08-01-22 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22594940)
Was it on your property, because if it was you have to exact revenge to make sure they recognize who they’re dealing with. :notamused:

Pour gasoline down the hole and light it. What's the worst that could happen?

I hear the underground fire in Centralia PA is still burning, BTW. 60 years, all from a fire in a landfill.

Mojo31 08-01-22 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22594940)
Was it on your property, because if it was you have to exact revenge to make sure they recognize who they’re dealing with. :notamused:

The ones that bit me ended up drowning.

It was on my property. The remainder will be nuked with Triazathon.

Mojo31 08-01-22 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22594947)
Pour gasoline down the hole and light it. What's the worst that could happen?

I hear the underground fire in Centralia PA is still burning, BTW. 60 years, all from a fire in a landfill.


In the past, I had been known to do that. The location will remain undisclosed.

big john 08-01-22 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22594896)
Old Stables Trail off the west side of Sullivan Ridge Rd.

Don't know that one.:foo:

Eric F 08-01-22 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22594975)
Don't know that one.:foo:

Here's our ride...https://www.strava.com/activities/7555071572 It's at the lower end of Sullivan.

indyfabz 08-01-22 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22594947)
Pour gasoline down the hole and light it. What's the worst that could happen?

I hear the underground fire in Centralia PA is still burning, BTW. 60 years, all from a fire in a landfill.

It started in trash, but it spread to coal seams. I rode through what was left of the town in 2014 while touring across PA. The USPS had long ago cancelled the town's zip code. There were only a few residents and houses left. They were occupied by people fighting the state's offers to buy them out. The last residents finally settled several years ago and left.

One neat byproduct of the mess was that the state had to reroute nearly a mile of PA 61. The abandoned stretch became covered with graffiti and came to be known as "Graffiti Highway." Some of the graffiti was pretty funny. It became a popular tourist attraction and was still walkable and rideable (with some care) when I passed through. I have a few photos at home. Wish I had taken more because a couple of years ago the owner of the land covered it over with earth:

The End of Centralia's Abandoned, Colorful, Anarchic 'Graffiti Highway' - Atlas Obscura

If you ever come back this way on I-76 the abandoned stretch of the PA Turnpike is worth a ride. I've ridden it twice. Last time was in 2020 while crossing the state. You can pick it up in Breezewood. The rideable stretch, which is about 8 ,miles long, is now an official, unofficial bike trail. I've ridden it twice heading east. Like Graffiti Highway was, it's covered in graffiti. Part of it actually has nice pavement because it was used for training snow plow operators and such before it was donated to some organization for trail use. There are two long tunnels towards the eastern end. One is around a mile. Neither are lit. The abandoned road was a filming location for he post-apocalyptic film "The Road" staring Viggo Mortensen.


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Bah Humbug 08-01-22 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22594919)
Marching two by two, hurrah?

I did intend a double meaning, yes.

genejockey 08-01-22 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22594977)
It started in trash, but it spread to coal seams. I rode through what was left of the town in 2014 while touring across PA. The USPS had long ago cancelled the town's zip code. There were only a few residents and houses left. They were occupied by people fighting the state's offers to buy them out. The last residents finally settled several years ago and left.

One neat byproduct of the mess was that the state had to reroute nearly a mile of PA 61. The abandoned stretch became covered with graffiti and came to be known as "Graffiti Highway." Some of the graffiti was pretty funny. It became a popular tourist attraction and was still walkable and rideable (with some care) when I passed through. I have a few photos at home. Wish I had taken more because a couple of years ago the owner of the land covered it over with earth:

The End of Centralia's Abandoned, Colorful, Anarchic 'Graffiti Highway' - Atlas Obscura

I remember hearing about the Centralia Fire decades ago, so it is kind of amazing that it's still going. I'd have thought it would have exhausted all the oxygen, and the CO2 would have built up from the lowest level and smothered it, but it must be sucking air in from somewhere.

BTW, thinking about all the coal mines is giving my claustrophobia a workout. Just the idea of working with a mile of rock over your head while you chip away at what's keeping it up.........

Mojo31 08-01-22 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 22594985)
I did intend a double meaning, yes.

Double entendre time?

big john 08-01-22 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22594976)
Here's our ride...https://www.strava.com/activities/7555071572 It's at the lower end of Sullivan.

Cool! You guys both ride XC hardtails. I thought about one before I bought the thing I have in 2018 but I was afraid it wouldn't like the rough rocky stuff. With the stuff I do these days an XC bike would be fine.

genejockey 08-01-22 01:50 PM

Ah, yes! The abandoned Turnpike sections! Because Dad's family was in Pittsburgh, we'd drive there a couple times a year. I remember sitting in The Way Back of whatever Ford station wagon we had at the time, with my sister, counting off seconds through the tunnels. Then I remember driving it some years later, heading to college up in the upper lefthand corner of PA and thinking, "Didn't there used to be 5 tunnels?" But the thought never lasted long enough to ask anyone. Then about 10 years or so, somebody posted something on FB about riding on the Abandoned Turnpike, so I looked it up and had one of those "I WAS RIGHT!!!" moments.

I watched a couple videos on YouTube, some folks not only going through the tunnels but going through the buildings at each end, the ventilation tunnel above the tunnel proper, and checking out the remnants of the giant fans that used to suck out what must have been pretty damned poisonous air, given what cars USED TO spew back before 1970.

indyfabz 08-01-22 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22594991)
I remember hearing about the Centralia Fire decades ago, so it is kind of amazing that it's still going. I'd have thought it would have exhausted all the oxygen, and the CO2 would have built up from the lowest level and smothered it, but it must be sucking air in from somewhere.

BTW, thinking about all the coal mines is giving my claustrophobia a workout. Just the idea of working with a mile of rock over your head while you chip away at what's keeping it up.........

Yeah. And anthracite coal is harder to put out once it gets going.

We provide rail service to a salt mine in the Detroit area. Big customer. A couple of people I work with have toured the mine. You have to go deep down in a small elevator. When you get down there there are open areas with pillars left behind for support. I have made it clear that I have no desire to take a tour because I don't want to have some folk song written about me when the roof collapses.

indyfabz 08-01-22 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22594999)
Ah, yes! The abandoned Turnpike sections! Because Dad's family was in Pittsburgh, we'd drive there a couple times a year. I remember sitting in The Way Back of whatever Ford station wagon we had at the time, with my sister, counting off seconds through the tunnels. Then I remember driving it some years later, heading to college up in the upper lefthand corner of PA and thinking, "Didn't there used to be 5 tunnels?" But the thought never lasted long enough to ask anyone. Then about 10 years or so, somebody posted something on FB about riding on the Abandoned Turnpike, so I looked it up and had one of those "I WAS RIGHT!!!" moments.

They started having drainage/leakage problems not long after the road opened. Also, they were only one lane in each direction. The PA Turnpike was far more popular than the state anticipated. Forcing traffic to squeeze down into ne lane in each direction often caused slowdowns. The abandoned stretch is longer than what is rideable. Beyond the eastern end of the trail at Pump Station Road is private property and fenced off.

genejockey 08-01-22 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22595000)
Yeah. And anthracite coal is harder to put out once it gets going.

We provide rail service to a salt mine in the Detroit area. Big customer. A couple of people I work with have toured the mine. You have to go deep down in a small elevator. When you get down there there are open areas with pillars left behind for support. I have made it clear that I have no desire to take a tour because I don't want to have some folk song written about me when the roof collapses.

One of my favorite songs when I was a wee lad was Peter, Paul, and Mary's version of "The Ballad of Spring Hill".

WhyFi 08-01-22 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22594947)
Pour gasoline down the hole and light it. What's the worst that could happen?


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22594968)
In the past, I had been known to do that. The location will remain undisclosed.

I've mentioned this before, but I took a rather more conservative approach with an ant hole in my basement - boiling water, about 10 quarts of it, poured in to a funnel.

It actually didn't kill all of the ants, but it killed a lot of 'em. How do I know this? Because the survivors removed all of the dead and deposited them on to my basement floor - circular dispersion pattern centered on the hole, with much higher density in the middle; instead of mounding up the bodies, they carried them further and further out. The field of dead was prolly about a 4' radius. Easily thousands of 'em (they were on the smaller side of the ant spectrum).

The survivors weren't seen after their pallbearer services, thankfully.

genejockey 08-01-22 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22595012)
They started having drainage/leakage problems not long after the road opened. Also, they were only one lane in each direction. The PA Turnpike was far more popular than the state anticipated. Forcing traffic to squeeze down into ne lane in each direction often caused slowdowns. The abandoned stretch is longer than what is rideable. Beyond the eastern end of the trail at Pump Station Road is private property and fenced off.

Part of me wants to ride it, because of the nostalgia and curiosity and part of me rebels at the idea of riding through an unlit tunnel over a mile long.

Mojo31 08-01-22 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22595022)
I've mentioned this before, but I took a rather more conservative approach with an ant hole in my basement - boiling water, about 10 quarts of it, poured in to a funnel.

It actually didn't kill all of the ants, but it killed a lot of 'em. How do I know this? Because the survivors removed all of the dead and deposited them on to my basement floor - circular dispersion pattern centered on the hole, with much higher density in the middle; instead of mounding up the bodies, they carried them further and further out. The field of dead was prolly about a 4' radius. Easily thousands of 'em (they were on the smaller side of the ant spectrum).

The survivors weren't seen after their pallbearer services, thankfully.

That is nuts!

I've never used gasoline in the vicinity of any buildings. When we did it it was in open fields we were preparing for events.


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