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DougRNS 10-10-22 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 22674158)

I thought it was titled Once in a Lifetime?

big john 10-10-22 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22674174)
I thought it was titled Once in a Lifetime?

It is.

datlas 10-10-22 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22674188)
It is.

Same as it ever WAS.

phrantic09 10-10-22 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22674070)
I am aware. My point is that there are divergent views on this topic, and the older generation may not be receptive to hearing what the younger one is saying.

Same as it ever was.

But in this case the older generation is objectively wrong and mistaken in their “facts”

datlas 10-10-22 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22674240)
But in this case the older generation is objectively wrong and mistaken in their “facts”

Mostly so, but they are not going to be receptive to hearing an updated more balanced view of history.

phrantic09 10-10-22 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22674247)
Mostly so, but they are not going to be receptive to hearing an updated more balanced view of history.

Yah. I can see that

Jack Tone 10-10-22 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22674240)
But in this case the older generation is objectively wrong and mistaken in their “facts”

Not if they were Alternative Facts.

Eric F 10-10-22 11:23 AM

Back to work after being down-and-out with COVID last week. A couple of really rough days, but doing much better since. Energy level is still down a bit, and I'm left with a lingering deep congestion in my lungs that I'm trying to clear out. Today, I'm trying to get caught up on work stuff that didn't get handled last week. I'm hoping to get on my bike tomorrow for a while - probably Zwift.

Being stuck at home last week, I spent some time dealing with some maintenance issues on my bikes, but still have an unresolved odd ping/click noise in the rear end of my Stork. I've taken apart, cleaned, and greased the rear hub, cassette, and freehub body multiple times. The cassette and chain were also replaced. Nothing seems to make a difference. The timing of the noise doesn't seem to coordinate with the rotation of any specific part. It's pretty irritating that I haven't been able to sort it out.

Jack Tone 10-10-22 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22674273)
Back to work after being down-and-out with COVID last week. A couple of really rough days, but doing much better since. Energy level is still down a bit, and I'm left with a lingering deep congestion in my lungs that I'm trying to clear out. Today, I'm trying to get caught up on work stuff that didn't get handled last week. I'm hoping to get on my bike tomorrow for a while - probably Zwift.

Being stuck at home last week, I spent some time dealing with some maintenance issues on my bikes, but still have an unresolved odd ping/click noise in the rear end of my Stork. I've taken apart, cleaned, and greased the rear hub, cassette, and freehub body multiple times. The cassette and chain were also replaced. Nothing seems to make a difference. The timing of the noise doesn't seem to coordinate with the rotation of any specific part. It's pretty irritating that I haven't been able to sort it out.

Is it an old wheel? Maybe spoke crossings?

genejockey 10-10-22 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22674273)
Back to work after being down-and-out with COVID last week. A couple of really rough days, but doing much better since. Energy level is still down a bit, and I'm left with a lingering deep congestion in my lungs that I'm trying to clear out. Today, I'm trying to get caught up on work stuff that didn't get handled last week. I'm hoping to get on my bike tomorrow for a while - probably Zwift.

Being stuck at home last week, I spent some time dealing with some maintenance issues on my bikes, but still have an unresolved odd ping/click noise in the rear end of my Stork. I've taken apart, cleaned, and greased the rear hub, cassette, and freehub body multiple times. The cassette and chain were also replaced. Nothing seems to make a difference. The timing of the noise doesn't seem to coordinate with the rotation of any specific part. It's pretty irritating that I haven't been able to sort it out.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ff81fe0cd2.gif

Eric F 10-10-22 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Jack Tone (Post 22674287)
Is it an old wheel? Maybe spoke crossings?

The wheels are Enve 3.4s. The noise happens even when the bike is in a workstand with no pressure on the rim.

genejockey 10-10-22 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22674296)
The wheels are Enve 3.4s. The noise happens even when the bike is in a workstand with no pressure on the rim.

Does it happen when the quick-link (if you're using one) hits a certain place in the drivetrain?

datlas 10-10-22 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22674240)
But in this case the older generation is objectively wrong and mistaken in their “facts”


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22674247)
Mostly so, but they are not going to be receptive to hearing an updated more balanced view of history.


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22674265)
Yah. I can see that

Yeah. So, for instance, I choose not to talk to my parents, who are in their 80's, about such topics. Although they are openminded for their generation, no good will come of challenging their perceptions.

Eric F 10-10-22 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22674300)
Does it happen when the quick-link (if you're using one) hits a certain place in the drivetrain?

No. The timing of the sound is significantly irregular.

t2p 10-10-22 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 22674026)
Columbus was a terrible person even by the terrible standards of the day not just to indigenous populations but also to his own sailors. And he was incompetent on top of it.

Even my most outspoken Italian-American coworker has moved on. Lots of things and people to celebrate with that culture, but skip him. And the Borgias.

I get the Columbus Day thing - sorta / kinda - but where does it end ?

What about all the Carnegie halls and libraries ? Andrew Carnegie was terrible

Henry Frick was terrible

and so were many more like them

genejockey 10-10-22 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22674305)
No. The timing of the sound is significantly irregular.

Dunno, man. Tighten all bolts and check clearances? Do you get the noise if you just spin the wheel? I once had loose stuff in a wheel that made irregular noises.

genejockey 10-10-22 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by t2p (Post 22674311)
I get the Columbus Day thing - sorta / kinda - but where does it end ?

What about all the Carnegie halls and libraries ? Andrew Carnegie was terrible

Henry Frick was terrible

and so were many more like them

To be fair, though, Carnegie and Frick don't have a Federal holiday named after them. And they're not renaming the capital city of Ohio, or that big river in the PNW, or the District Of.... well, you know.

genejockey 10-10-22 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22674301)
Yeah. So, for instance, I choose not to talk to my parents, who are in their 80's, about such topics. Although they are openminded for their generation, no good will come of challenging their perceptions.

I feel very lucky to have had the parents I did. I am sometimes glad that Dad's dementia was fairly extensive by 2017, because if he'd been aware of what was going on he'd have hated it.

datlas 10-10-22 01:03 PM

What was that outage all about?? Someone accidentally pulled out a plug at HQ?

Eric F 10-10-22 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22674316)
Dunno, man. Tighten all bolts and check clearances? Do you get the noise if you just spin the wheel? I once had loose stuff in a wheel that made irregular noises.

I dunno, either. That's the problem. I'm a decent bike mechanic, and there are few tasks that I can't handle myself. This one has me stumped.

The noise only happens when the pedals are turning. It's baffling. I'm not even sure I can describe the sound in words. It's not typical at all. I'm 98.3% sure it's something related to the rear hub/freewheel/cassette. That said, I'm probably going to take a close look a the cranks and BB next.

LesterOfPuppets 10-10-22 01:10 PM

We got a new milk tea spot in town, the first Fire Tiger in the US! Pretty extravagant drinks with too much sugar but pretty tasty. Fire Tiger originated in Thailand and currently has locations in Malaysia, Indonesia, Cambodia, and the Philippines.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...119301600a.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc12aa0931.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5ba7eed1bd.jpg

datlas 10-10-22 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22674329)
We got a new milk tea spot in town, the first Fire Tiger in the US! Pretty extravagant drinks with too much sugar but pretty tasty. Fire Tiger originated in Thailand and currently has locations in Malaysia, Indonesia, Cambodia, and the Philippines.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...119301600a.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc12aa0931.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5ba7eed1bd.jpg

Is that tea made with cow's milk?? Or 50/50 tea/milk??

Bah Humbug 10-10-22 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22674301)
Yeah. So, for instance, I choose not to talk to my parents, who are in their 80's, about such topics. Although they are openminded for their generation, no good will come of challenging their perceptions.

I mean, funny thing is you're like a half-step down, generationally, from my dad, yet you're much more in-line with me here.

big john 10-10-22 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22674328)
I dunno, either. That's the problem. I'm a decent bike mechanic, and there are few tasks that I can't handle myself. This one has me stumped.

The noise only happens when the pedals are turning. It's baffling. I'm not even sure I can describe the sound in words. It's not typical at all. I'm 98.3% sure it's something related to the rear hub/freewheel/cassette. That said, I'm probably going to take a close look a the cranks and BB next.

Did you swap in a different wheel?

genejockey 10-10-22 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22674328)
I dunno, either. That's the problem. I'm a decent bike mechanic, and there are few tasks that I can't handle myself. This one has me stumped.

The noise only happens when the pedals are turning. It's baffling. I'm not even sure I can describe the sound in words. It's not typical at all. I'm 98.3% sure it's something related to the rear hub/freewheel/cassette. That said, I'm probably going to take a close look a the cranks and BB next.

I hate that stuff. I have a noise on the Litespeed that took me hours to identify. It was a *click* that was in time with the wheels, i.e. one time per revolution. I went over both tires exhaustively, feeling for any bulges. I rode with one brake, then the other open so there'd be no rim rubbing, even though both wheels run true and there's plenty of clearance. I re-checked the clearance at the fork crown and brake bridge, as well as the BB/chainstay area. Finally, at home, I went over the tires under really good lighting and discovered a very small cut that allows the rubber to open up ever so slightly. You can't feel it running your hand over it. But I'm pretty sure that's it. And it still makes the noise, but having figured it out, I can ignore it.


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