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jaxgtr 02-18-24 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 23159893)
On an unrelated note, I live in a prime mtb riding area with miles of technical single track. Today, less than a mile away, a mountain lion took down a female mountain biker - ;but was rescued by her riding partners before serious injury. The cat was tracked and killed, but it has a sibling there too which ran. As a result no biking, running or dog walking until they locate the other cat and either capture and relocate or euthanize. Trails closed.

My wife had a cougar cross in front of her car after dark a year ago and the woman next door met one on the trail a few years back - but nothing happened other than a change in running shorts. She hasnít run the trail since.

And then I have run into a couple of black bears - one when running which stood its ground about 25 feet away. The other while mtb in heavy woods (where the cougars live) and was able to find another trail and get away. And then there was the mama bear and her two cubs that walked across our front lawnÖ.

Yikes.... I was in Utah many years ago, and was on a off road run with some friends. One of them runs this specific trail system on the regular as it was close to his house outside of Logan and we were about 5 miles in when he came to an abrupt stop, started to wave his arms and screaming as loud as possible up the side of the trail. He told us to back up as we were being stalked by a mountain lion, I sort of checked out after than and said I did not need exercise that much, but he seemed to be less concern and said it seems to have gone. I was not onboard with that thinking, so we exited stage right and went back to his house.

rsbob 02-18-24 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by jaxgtr (Post 23160628)
Yikes.... I was in Utah many years ago, and was on a off road run with some friends. One of them runs this specific trail system on the regular as it was close to his house outside of Logan and we were about 5 miles in when he came to an abrupt stop, started to wave his arms and screaming as loud as possible up the side of the trail. He told us to back up as we were being stalked by a mountain lion, I sort of checked out after than and said I did not need exercise that much, but he seemed to be less concern and said it seems to have gone. I was not onboard with that thinking, so we exited stage right and went back to his house.

Have not personally had any interactions with the big cats but plenty of people around here have seen them on the trails and they usually take off. This is the second attack in my area in three years with the first one fatal. I mostly see bobcats which run away.

A few years back I was running with my black lab and a huge male black bear walked from the woods onto the trail about 25 feet in front of me and just stood there. I am used to them running. We were upwind, so the dog didn’t notice so I leashed him and contrary to instruction, did not make a bunch of noise, but slowly walked backward. He watched for at least a minute, not budging as I walked backward. I then started slowly walking away looking over my shoulder without him budging. It was very disconcerting.

My neighbor who was also a runner took a local trail that goes out about 1/4 mile into the woods and then splits into a circle which returns to that same 1/4 mile on the return. It had rained the night before so the trail was wet and a bit muddy. So when he was returning to the common connector he noticed cougar tracks, where there had been none before, following his outgoing route. He decided to see if it was a fluke or what but the cat tracks were going right along were he ran until he came to his senses and asked himself, what am I doing? He quickly turned around and got the hell out of there, keeping an eye over his shoulder.

Oh, and how ‘fer’ did I ride today? Zero. Was escorting patients to various clinics all day, 11,500 steps and 68 floors climbed.

jaxgtr 02-19-24 08:26 PM

Did a light recovery ride today, done a lot of climbing lately, so got in 24 mile inside with only a scant 300 ft of incline. All zone 2 just spinning the legs. It was good.

jaxgtr 02-21-24 08:59 PM

Got in 35 Rouvy miles with 2200 ft of climbing on it. Legs felt ok, but my brain overtook the legs and told me to stop at 35. the route did have 49 miles and 2800 ft of climbing. So I will finish remaining 14 miles and 600 ft tomorrow on lunch. The joys of working from home.

Sierra_rider 02-21-24 09:41 PM

I'm usually away at work for the first half of the week, so I've done my usual virtual trainer time this week. I keep a spare road bike at work and bring my trainer in with me.

So far this week, between 3 days I've done 3.5 hours, 38 virtual miles, and 5,800' of virtual climbing. Monday and Tuesday were high zone 2 efforts on Rouvy climbs. Today's workout was a little interval session up a virtual Alpe d'Huez...3x10 minute blocks at 345 watts. Since it was a structured workout, it doesn't count the elevation gain.

I'll probably take it fairly easy the next 2 days, I got a 90ish mile gravel race lined up for this weekend. It's not really an "A" race for me, more of a test to see where I'm at. I think I have solid endurance built up, but I now need to "tune" the top end up a bit.

Sierra_rider 02-22-24 07:49 PM

I did my "easy loop" today, which is 38 miles and only 3600' of gain. The only noteworthy thing about it/accomplishment, was that it was the least physiologically demanding ride I've ever done on this loop(by both HR and power zones,) yet it was the fastest average speed I've ever done it in.

rsbob 02-22-24 09:51 PM

30 miles OD 2000í. Temps were in the low 50s.

rsbob 02-22-24 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by Sierra_rider (Post 23164668)
I did my "easy loop" today, which is 38 miles and only 3600' of gain. The only noteworthy thing about it/accomplishment, was that it was the least physiologically demanding ride I've ever done on this loop(by both HR and power zones,) yet it was the fastest average speed I've ever done it in.

Wut? :D

Sierra_rider 02-22-24 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 23164758)
Wut? :D

Easy is relative, right? No extended grades of more than 10% and the tallest single climb is only 800'(not counting the grades with flat spots in them.) I'm able to ride the entire loop in a comfortable cadence without venturing far out of zone 2 power levels.

The total climb ratio is below the golden ratio and it's not gran fondo distance, so that's why I call it my "easy loop." My other regular loop of similar distance is my "hard loop." I do that one when I want to get some high intensity work in, or just want to experience pain. That one is 32-40 miles and 4500-6000'+ of climbing, depending on some "options" that can be done. I've got some even gnarlier local routes with some HC climbs, but they likely won't be ridable 'til at least May.

rsbob 02-22-24 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Sierra_rider (Post 23164784)
Easy is relative, right? No extended grades of more than 10% and the tallest single climb is only 800'(not counting the grades with flat spots in them.) I'm able to ride the entire loop in a comfortable cadence without venturing far out of zone 2 power levels.

The total climb ratio is below the golden ratio and it's not gran fondo distance, so that's why I call it my "easy loop." My other regular loop of similar distance is my "hard loop." I do that one when I want to get some high intensity work in, or just want to experience pain. That one is 32-40 miles and 4500-6000'+ of climbing, depending on some "options" that can be done. I've got some even gnarlier local routes with some HC climbs, but they likely won't be ridable 'til at least May.

totally understand. On todayís ride, I rode my ancient steel fendered Bianchi 12 speed with very high Ďracing gearsí (since it rained all last night and all the shaded areas are still wet). A majority of the climbs are from 8-12%. So most of my elevation gain is pretty much in two shots with little break. I tell myself itís good hill climbing experience with prolonged sessions out of the saddle going anaerobic. But grinding at 72 RPM is not my idea of fun - and am not training (like someone I know) for any events. Canít wait until the roads dry and can get on my modern bikes.

diphthong 02-23-24 01:42 AM

30-spot up the coast from solana beach to carlsbad and back. a few decent efforts on the ole Ď85 pinarello trying to keep up/stay ahead of the e-bikes. twas a struggle into a 3/4 headwind heading north but southbound, they couldnít keep up.

jaxgtr 02-23-24 06:57 PM

Was horsing around with my dog on Thursday and he gets pretty mouthy sometimes when he gets really excited and the little bugger caught my hand right at the base under my thumb leaving a 2 stitch hole. Luckily, It does not really bother me too much, so I got in 20 miles and 5oo ft of climbing.

rsbob 02-24-24 12:48 AM

Z1+Z2 24 miles with 800ft but slipped up and got a PR on a 3 miler, which I wasn’t really hitting too hard. Last PR on that stretch was April 2021and I was busting a nut.

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Twin Peaks?

jaxgtr 02-24-24 08:16 PM

So I got a late start this morning as I worked until 3 am.... :crash: So as I was rolling along, the wind was not terrible, between 5 and 10 out of the NW but expected to pick up as the day went on. Two dudes roll up on me, brothers, and we end up becoming a 3 person group ride and are cruising along at 27 to 30. I had plans to turn back at one point when I was on my own, as I did not want to be pummeled by the wind by myself heading back. They were like, no man, we can deal with the wind as a group, so I kept heading south an additional 25 miles. At the new turn point, these two decided to bail, one of the guys lives in the area. His wife is at the brother's house, up my way, for a baby shower, so they are just going to drive back later.

:notamused:

I now have to battle 20 to 25 mph headwinds for 40 miles. I ask them to watch my bike as I go into the store to buy a coke and some gummy bears as I know I will need some additional carbs. I averaged 13 to 15 and in some spots 12 mph when I was more exposed to the wind. Miserable ride back, but I blame myself know the winds were going to be heavy on the way back, and I automatically assumed these two were going to head north with me since they state; "we can deal with the wind as a group". Painful lesson never to trust anyone riding a 14K aero bike that is afraid of some wind.

All totaled, 92 miles, 440 ft of bridge loops before the meet up. Completely burned up tonight.

ofajen 02-24-24 09:24 PM

17 miles. First ride in two months. Iíve been running and strength training this winter. The ride went way better than I expected. I think the strength training saved me from struggling up the hills on my old single speed bike. 👌

Otto

rsbob 02-24-24 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by jaxgtr (Post 23166570)
So I got a late start this morning as I worked until 3 am.... :crash: So as I was rolling along, the wind was not terrible, between 5 and 10 out of the NW but expected to pick up as the day went on. Two dudes roll up on me, brothers, and we end up becoming a 3 person group ride and are cruising along at 27 to 30. I had plans to turn back at one point when I was on my own, as I did not want to be pummeled by the wind by myself heading back. They were like, no man, we can deal with the wind as a group, so I kept heading south an additional 25 miles. At the new turn point, these two decided to bail, one of the guys lives in the area. His wife is at the brother's house, up my way, for a baby shower, so they are just going to drive back later.

:notamused:

I now have to battle 20 to 25 mph headwinds for 40 miles. I ask them to watch my bike as I go into the store to buy a coke and some gummy bears as I know I will need some additional carbs. I averaged 13 to 15 and in some spots 12 mph when I was more exposed to the wind. Miserable ride back, but I blame myself know the winds were going to be heavy on the way back, and I automatically assumed these two were going to head north with me since they state; "we can deal with the wind as a group". Painful lesson never to trust anyone riding a 14K aero bike that is afraid of some wind.

All totaled, 92 miles, 440 ft of bridge loops before the meet up. Completely burned up tonight.

Man that really sucks.

Sierra_rider 02-24-24 10:36 PM

89 miles, 4000', and less than 5 hours of gravel racing today. On paper my stats look good, I averaged 18.3 mph on a course that had its share of ruts, washboards, and technical gravel descents. However, it felt like I was riding the struggle bus today...it was all good for the first 40 miles, I was solidly in the lead group and made some key splits that caught a lot of guys out. Once we hit the first climb, my race started to unravel...for whatever reason, I was easily 80 watts off of the power I'd expect to hold on a climb like that. It got worse after that and my heart rate was usually high for the power I was riding at. I eventually started to find my legs and was able to latch onto a chase group and even take some turns on the pace line.

On a positive note, I was able to put my MTB skills to work and absolutely sent it down the last descent of the day. It was rutted and muddy in spots, with loose pebbles in others...was able to set one of the fastest times in that section and caught/passed back a bunch of people there. Looking back, I probably took a bit more risk than was necessary. I'm running mostly smooth/racy gravel tires and was drifting through many of the turns...but that downhill was too fun not to get a little crazy on it.

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rsbob 02-24-24 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by Sierra_rider (Post 23166660)
89 miles, 4000', and less than 5 hours of gravel racing today. On paper my stats look good, I averaged 18.3 mph on a course that had its share of ruts, washboards, and technical gravel descents. However, it felt like I was riding the struggle bus today...it was all good for the first 40 miles, I was solidly in the lead group and made some key splits that caught a lot of guys out. Once we hit the first climb, my race started to unravel...for whatever reason, I was easily 80 watts off of the power I'd expect to hold on a climb like that. It got worse after that and my heart rate was usually high for the power I was riding at. I eventually started to find my legs and was able to latch onto a chase group and even take some turns on the pace line.

On a positive note, I was able to put my MTB skills to work and absolutely sent it down the last descent of the day. It was rutted and muddy in spots, with loose pebbles in others...was able to set one of the fastest times in that section and caught/passed back a bunch of people there. Looking back, I probably took a bit more risk than was necessary. I'm running mostly smooth/racy gravel tires and was drifting through many of the turns...but that downhill was too fun not to get a little crazy on it.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...25cf02443f.jpg

Quite enjoy your commentary. Makes it very interesting to hear your play by play. Hope to hear more in the future - and am glad you found your legs and could exploit your dirt skills.

Sierra_rider 02-25-24 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 23166675)
Quite enjoy your commentary. Makes it very interesting to hear your play by play. Hope to hear more in the future - and am glad you found your legs and could exploit your dirt skills.

Thanks, Peacock/NBC should hire me to be a color commentator for the TDF. I might make it 1/2 a broadcast before I slip up and say something highly inappropriate...actually, maybe they shouldn't hire me.

Not too much commentary about today's XC race...20 miles and 1600-1800' depending on who's head unit you trust. I thought I was going to be dead, but I actually felt pretty good considering the 90ish miles of yesterday. I didn't feel like playing pack tactics with the lead group, so I just spun my own laps out and ended up 4th. Looking at timing, after the race, I should've pushed a bit harder, as I ended up finishing pretty close to 3rd.

delbiker1 02-25-24 01:58 PM

I am eating a snack after about 25 miles split between my Poprad and Orbea Avant. This moment realized I was not ready to sit and do this. Guess I will get on my Airborne Zeppelin, that now covers titanium, steel, and carbon fiber.

WaveyGravey 02-25-24 02:06 PM

20 Miles. Have not had a good winter of riding. Mostly due to weather.

OldTryGuy 02-25-24 02:18 PM

Hopped on my recumbent at 3:10am and rode 17.71 miles under a very bright Waning Gibbous Moon.

ofajen 02-25-24 05:56 PM

Sandwiched 45 minutes and 9 miles of hills between walking the dogs and a 4.5 mile easy run.

biker128pedal 02-25-24 06:07 PM

Yesterday who is my birthday. So I treated myself to Fenix 7 Pro smarty watch to augment my Edge 1030. Road 16 miles of the Cap Trail to play with it. With two devices looks like I road twice. :lol:

Then today after the morning hike with the dog took a 21 mile ride before dinner. Felt good until the about a half mile from home. Right foot came unclipped and hit the ground at about 23 mph from worn out cleat. It had popped out before. Scratched bezel ring on day old watch. A little nick on the edge of the screen. Screen protector arrived while I was out. I needed a bezel ring protector. One on the way.

Second lesson. Donít wear wedding ring. I have a gash in the finger. Bandaged but will need to cut off ring to help it heal. Oh annual doctors checkup tomorrow. So get to explain the fall and get told at 63 to slow down. May get a stitch or two in the finger.

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Oh liking the watch. HRM is spot on compared to Bontrager chest strap. More options than my Edge 1030. Will come in handy when I forget the edge or ride light.

Edit: Annual visit to the Doc after 4 years. Need to take is easy for 4-6 weeks for the ribs. I'm going to replace cleats today. All had been popping out. I have all Shimano SPD pedals except cool looking Bontrager on the Domane. I still have the cleats for it so I will put those on one pair of shoes to compare. Should be interesting. Look, Shimano and Bontrager are supposed to be interchangeable. I guess the new Trek pedal are too.

Edit again. Found a stick on bezel ring and rubber protector. Both most likely would have prevented the damage from the crash. The rubber protector fits well before adding the bezel ring. The ring is slightly skewed. If the adhesive backed ring does not stay on Iíll use the protector. The protector looks better on the watch.

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Sierra_rider 02-25-24 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by biker128pedal (Post 23167408)
Yesterday who is my birthday. So I treated myself to Fenix 7 Pro smarty watch to augment my Edge 1030. Road 16 miles of the Cap Trail to play with it. With two devices looks like I road twice. :lol:

Then today after the morning hike with the dog took a 21 mile ride before dinner. Felt good until the about a half mile from home. Right foot came unclipped and hit the ground at about 23 mph from worn out cleat. It had popped out before. Scratched bezel ring on day old watch. A little nick on the edge of the screen. Screen protector arrived while I was out. I needed a bezel ring protector. One on the way.

Second lesson. Donít wear wedding ring. I have a gash in the finger. Bandaged but will need to cut off ring to help it heal. Oh annual doctors checkup tomorrow. So get to explain the fall and get told at 63 to slow down. May get a stitch or two in the finger.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9c25f2db8.jpeg

Oh liking the watch. HRM is spot on compared to Bontrager chest strap. More options than my Edge 1030. Will come in handy when I forget the edge or ride light.

Sucks about your crash, sounds like nothing too long-term injurywise, so that's good.

I'm a data junkie, so I appreciate the smart watch. Mine's only the Instinct 2 solar(bought it off a friend who upgraded to the Fenix 7,) but I really appreciate the heart rate variability metric as well as just always having heart rate. It's not fool proof, but I sometimes adjust/modify my rides based on what my overnight HRV value was. It's really interesting to see how, after a hard ride, my HRV will be utter rubbish. Any sort of alcohol within a few hours of going to bed has the same effect on HRV.

I still run the HR strap and Garmin head unit on most of my rides, but occasionally just use the watch if I'm just going for a couple miles to visit a neighbor.


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