I think I found Campy's first brifters
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These were on a 1970 or 71 Bob Jackson. The guy who had the bike got it from a friend who passed. He said "he was an engineer and made them himself".
Has anyone ever seen this set-up before? I'm not sure if I'm going to try riding it or just swap in some down tube shifters. |
Looks better than bar end shifters.
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God bless engineers.
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An early predecessor of this one:
https://cdn1.cyclist.co.uk/sites/cyc...3/img_2443.jpg https://www.cyclist.co.uk/news/2464/...e-bicycle-show |
The OP's looks more like a repositioned 'thumbie' mount than a brifter... AndyK's example looks more like the brake lever/shifter combo we call brifters...
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The first one looks like an original iBob diy-ing DT shifters onto the bars, or maybe one of Gugie’s middle school projects. The second one looks like Columbus was involved, and I’d like a set of those! I like Ergopowers quite a bit, but this is a very cool presentation!
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heck, it would be a shame to not give them a try and see how well it works!
The general idea does pop up now and then. Kelly Take-Off shifters are a more sophisticated version of the concept.....Kelly TakeOff - Kelly Bike Company : Kelly Bike Company and the SunTour Command shifters are yet another level of development of the concept. Steve in Peoria |
Let's see a shot of the whole bike and cockpit
I'd probably run them as is, just put in some new cables I love guys who fred up their own contraptions for bikes |
Originally Posted by Cougrrcj
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AndyK's example looks more like the brake lever/shifter combo we call brifters...
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I would absolutely keep those shifters just as they are!
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Those second ones look a bit hazardous if braking from the top.
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Originally Posted by jackbombay
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I would absolutely keep those shifters just as they are!
I'll post more pics on the Show me your Bob Jackson thread when I get a chance. @jackbombay I'll probably give them a try. It's raining here today so it'll be hard not to push forward with finishing getting the initial set-up done. |
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Lever clamps appear to be custom-machined alloy bits, so a solid (no pun intended) effort!
Cotton tape appears to be covering a layer of padding. We're all in suspense here, waiting for your ride report and how the ergonomics of this arrangement feel. Is this bike a good fit for you? Be sure to oil up the pivots and friction surfaces of the levers, since this one may have been sitting(?). The leverage from your fingers will change quite a bit depending on what gear you are using, so I would want to bring the entire cable paths up to highest plastic-lined, compressionless standards in order to give this execution a best evaluation! What kind of chain and freewheel are on board? |
Originally Posted by dddd
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Lever clamps appear to be custom-machined alloy bits, so a solid (no pun intended) effort!
Cotton tape appears to be covering a layer of padding. We're all in suspense here, waiting for your ride report and how the ergonomics of this arrangement feel. Is this bike a good fit for you? Be sure to oil up the pivots and friction surfaces of the levers, since this one may have been sitting(?). The leverage from your fingers will change quite a bit depending on what gear you are using, so I would want to bring the entire cable paths up to highest plastic-lined, compressionless standards in order to give this execution a best evaluation! What kind of chain and freewheel are on board? Yes, there is some padding under the cloth tape. The freewheel it came with is a Regina on some high flange campy hubs. They feel pretty smooth, but I put on a different set of wheels with a 600 freewheel (clinchers, since I only have one spare sew-up for the wheels it came with (Which are pretty cool Scheeren hoops)). Chain is in bad shape (I just put some chain lube on it last night as I was doing the first go-through. I did find it interesting that the chain wasn't over stretched). I'll be putting on a SRAM chain (I like their master link) today. Good point on oiling the pivots. It has been sitting. Everything is shifting OK on the stand, but a little oil can't hurt. Now I'm convinced that I need to keep it like this at least for a few rides... Need to pay homage to the original owner that put the effort out to engineer/fabricate these. |
Originally Posted by Road Fan
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The second one looks like Columbus was involved, and I’d like a set of those! I like Ergopowers quite a bit, but this is a very cool presentation!
You can get a set of the Gevenalle levers that works with many friction shifters (https://www.gevenalle.com/product/audax/), but the Campy indexed bar end shifter here has a larger diameter and wouldn't work with the standard offering. |
Originally Posted by plonz
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Those second ones look a bit hazardous if braking from the top.
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Originally Posted by SpeedofLite
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What do you mean "we", Pale Face? ;)
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Originally Posted by SwimmerMike
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Now I'm convinced that I need to keep it like this at least for a few rides... Need to pay homage to the original owner that put the effort out to engineer/fabricate these.
If you do decide they are not for you, I'll gladly buy them off you and install on my Super Course! I love DIY projects/items like this! |
Originally Posted by Cougrrcj
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what else would you call integrated brake/shifter combo?
Although, I would call the setup in the op merely an ugly kludge. FRICTION SHIFTING WORKS! |
Here’s a set I made a few years ago after seeing Gevenalle’s offerings. On theirs the levers generally aim down and the housings aim upward. On mine these are both reversed. I attached a machined stud to Tektro levers from the inside with a screw. They work pretty well, I just don’t have a bike needing them now. I run Gevenalles on the gravel bike and like them a lot.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...65ba800d7.jpeg |
When power shifter barcons came out I got a pair and did this:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...98e885127f.jpg |
Originally Posted by oneclick
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When power shifter barcons came out I got a pair and did this:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...98e885127f.jpg I'm hoping to try out the set-up I recieved either today or tomorrow to see how well they work. |
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Originally Posted by SwimmerMike
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If they work nicely, keep them! They'd look pretty spiffy with new matching bar tape. Can we also all appreciate that he aero-routed them, probably long before aero routing was a thing? :D -Kurt |
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