Why identical frames weigh more sometimes
Was modding a frame and found a suprise inside. Figured some here might get a laugh out of this.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d14f5ddb9b.jpg |
Originally Posted by geeteeiii
(Post 22836059)
Was modding a frame and found a suprise inside. Figured some here might get a laugh out of this.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d14f5ddb9b.jpg At a shop where I worked once, there was a sales guy who got a new tri-bike and someone there thought it would be funny to fill the frame with steel shot, from a shot-blasting cabinet. I don't remember what the victim did to deserve that but I gather it was well-deserved. It took him a long time to notice, like after a few races. I also heard of a solid steel mandrel being dropped into another guy's seat tube, full length from the BB shell up to the bottom of the seatpost. Even heavier than steel shot, which has air spaces in it. Could this be another prank, or was it an attempt to stiffen the frame, or repair a crack? The mind boggles. Mark B |
Strategic ballast makes you go faster
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Originally Posted by bulgie
(Post 22836233)
OMG, can you tell what that material is? Lead solder maybe? That's effin' hilarious.
At a shop where I worked once, there was a sales guy who got a new tri-bike and someone there thought it would be funny to fill the frame with steel shot, from a shot-blasting cabinet. I don't remember what the victim did to deserve that but I gather it was well-deserved. It took him a long time to notice, like after a few races. I also heard of a solid steel mandrel being dropped into another guy's seat tube, full length from the BB shell up to the bottom of the seatpost. Even heavier than steel shot, which has air spaces in it. Could this be another prank, or was it an attempt to stiffen the frame, or repair a crack? The mind boggles. Mark B |
I suspect this frame was hearth brazed with a coil fed filler. Inattention, lack of skill, just because one can and a whole lot more filler was fed into the chainstay/shell joints. It would be interesting to see if the shell had a brass coating on most of it's interior surfaces too.
Or someone loaded the chainstays with a few too many preform filler rings. Andy |
As someone who has now built the large bits of exactly one frame I can attest to lack of skill being at least one cause for much excess braze metal winding up in places where it does nothing but add weight. :(
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Are you all talking about the shiny soldering material or the rust-colored plates that (especially in the left chainstay) look like tilted discs?
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Carbon-fiber frames are often ( slightly ) heavier or lighter than expected due to resin flow or drip-out,at least that was the case, anyway, 10 years ago.
For instance, BMC frame builders would badge/decal the lighter frames Roadmachine and the heavier ones Racemachine although the frames are outwardly identical. |
Originally Posted by kraftwerk
(Post 22867122)
Carbon-fiber frames are often ( slightly ) heavier or lighter than expected due to resin flow or drip-out,at least that was the case, anyway, 10 years ago.
For instance, BMC frame builders would badge/decal the lighter frames Roadmachine and the heavier ones Racemachine although the frames are outwardly identical. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4246fb386d.jpg Also on the subject of unintentionally funny decals, there's this one named after the 5 points where it'll break if it actually gets ridden: https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6a109c1fe1.jpg And this one, also named after the point where it will break: https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2ad53ee4f5.jpg |
Originally Posted by bulgie
(Post 22867267)
I love this pic of a BMC Team Machine that tore in half, in the perfect place to where the decal now says "Tear" Machine. I wonder if tears were shed, over that tear?
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4246fb386d.jpg Also on the subject of unintentionally funny decals, there's this one named after the 5 points where it'll break if it actually gets ridden: https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6a109c1fe1.jpg |
Originally Posted by georges1
(Post 22868973)
I suspect the tear machine was made of carbon with a manufacturing defect.
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That is just wild.
hearth brazing or not, considering the "waterline" of the bronze, I would have expected the bottom bracket shell to be filled solid too. The shell does not appear to me to have a closed off wall at the chainstay spigots. |
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