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Mojo31 11-19-21 03:11 PM

Not what I wanted to get ona Friday afternoon.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...951d52a6d9.jpg

genejockey 11-19-21 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22313668)
Yes but NOT wired-less. You have to use current generation Di-2 wired shifters. The wireless only comes in hydraulic disc format.

Sad!

RIGHT! I knew there was something weird about it. If you want all the 'New Dura Ace' goodness, you gotta go whole hog.

phrantic09 11-19-21 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22313671)
Not what I wanted to get ona Friday afternoon.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...951d52a6d9.jpg

Maybe it’s a refund

datlas 11-19-21 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22313676)
RIGHT! I knew there was something weird about it. If you want all the 'New Dura Ace' goodness, you gotta go whole hog.

Yeah. I understand their position but still not happy. The same thing is true for SRAM Etap AXS. So it seems if you want a wireless drivetrain, you gotta have hydraulic brakes. Phooey.

p.s. I know Campy still supports rim brakes but their electronic shifters are wired.

genejockey 11-19-21 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22313680)
Maybe it’s a refund

Hope springs eternal.....

Mojo31 11-19-21 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22313680)
Maybe it’s a refund

Nope. :(

I very rarely get those.

This one has to do with payroll taxes, but thankfully no bad news. Just seeing the envelops raises my blood pressure.

phrantic09 11-19-21 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22313648)
Y'all are smokin' and/or drinkin' some good stuff! :p

I’m going to do an experiment this weekend on the MUP and see.

WhyFi 11-19-21 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22313688)
I’m going to do an experiment this weekend on the MUP and see.

Thank you for confirming that you are currently under the influence of the good stuff. :roflmao:

In all seriousness, if you look at Conor Dunne's data from the "GCN 2 vs 1," he and Hank managed 26mph... and Conor averaged 400w. I know that Conor's a big boy, so he's going to have an aero penalty sheltering behind a single, average-sized human, but he's also a former pro and an awesome TTist, so I'm sure his position is better than average.

indyfabz 11-19-21 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22313575)
Mind you, if I were made of money, I'd already have an order in.

If you were made of money you wouldn’t be able to ride a bike.

phrantic09 11-19-21 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22313702)
Thank you for confirming that you are currently under the influence of the good stuff. :roflmao:

In all seriousness, if you look at Conor Dunne's data from the "GCN 2 vs 1," he and Hank managed 26mph... and Conor averaged 400w. I know that Conor's a big boy, so he's going to have an aero penalty sheltering behind a single, average-sized human, but he's also a former pro and an awesome TTist, so I'm sure his position is better than average.

I can buy 23 honestly, but you’re right, it does seem too fast

phrantic09 11-19-21 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22313681)
Yeah. I understand their position but still not happy. The same thing is true for SRAM Etap AXS. So it seems if you want a wireless drivetrain, you gotta have hydraulic brakes. Phooey.

p.s. I know Campy still supports rim brakes but their electronic shifters are wired.

Ben Serotta will hook you up with a nice titanium bike w/ wireless shifting if you are willing to part with… 13k or so

WhyFi 11-19-21 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22313635)
I mean, you can get Rival eTap for like 1600 w/ power…

Without trying to, I've heard too much about SRAM hydro that I don't even want to go there.

That does make me wonder, though - how does a system built for DOT differ from one built for mineral oil? Is the viscosity so different putting the wrong fluid in the system would make it perform that poorly?

phrantic09 11-19-21 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22313710)
Without trying to, I've heard too much about SRAM hydro that I don't even want to go there.

That does make me wonder, though - how does a system built for DOT differ from one built for mineral oil? Is the viscosity so different putting the wrong fluid in the system would make it perform that poorly?

My felt Z4 had SRAM Rival 22 and I never had problems beyond the occasional ping and squeal- most likely caused by 135mm QR instead of TA

datlas 11-19-21 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22313708)
Ben Serotta will hook you up with a nice titanium bike w/ wireless shifting if you are willing to part with… 13k or so

I am aware. I am 56 and likely have one more new bike coming my way, maybe for my 60th birthday. I would consider something shiny and fancy from him or Seven/IF/Calfee/etc. but for the next few years I am sticking with rim brakes and mechanical shifting.

WhyFi 11-19-21 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22313704)
I can buy 23 honestly, but you’re right, it does seem too fast

Hmmm, looks like I've done 22.5 solo on the road, in bam's neck of the woods, at 262w... :foo:

phrantic09 11-19-21 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22313714)
I am aware. I am 56 and likely have one more new bike coming my way, maybe for my 60th birthday. I would consider something shiny and fancy from him or Seven/IF/Calfee/etc. but for the next few years I am sticking with rim brakes and mechanical shifting.

nice. Serotta is about 5 miles away from me and I’m always tempted to “buy local”

Im trying to work the discipline to hold on to the R3 until 2023. The only times I want to replace it are for rides where I wish I had disc, dirt roads and rain usually.

WhyFi 11-19-21 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22313660)
That said, if someone dropped a fancy $1000 DeLonghi chromed device in my lap, I would be ok with that too.


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22313664)
Does that sort of thing happen to you often?

When I was living in Brooklyn, I scooped up this Francis! Francis! X-1 espresso machine that someone had left on the curb a day or two after Christmas (I assume they'd gotten an upgrade). It was about a $750 machine at the time, IIRC. Totally sent me down the espresso rabbit hole.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8e0f294b40.jpg

datlas 11-19-21 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22313722)
nice. Serotta is about 5 miles away from me and I’m always tempted to “buy local”

Im trying to work the discipline to hold on to the R3 until 2023. The only times I want to replace it are for rides where I wish I had disc, dirt roads and rain usually.

There are some custom framebuilders in the Philly metro area (Bilenky, Engin, possibly Tom Kellogg although I am thinking he may be retired), so lots of options.

If I had the choice of one more custom-built frame, I might consider a crabon fiber one. It's all a dream for now. I will stick with my 12 year old chinese Ti frame with rim brakes.

#GoodEnoughIsGoodEnough

Velo Vol 11-19-21 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22313338)
The hills in the Velo Vol territory, and the wind in Wyoming. Those two are the bane of the Trans Am Bike Race participants. Well. Getting killed in Kansas may be at the top. Those three things...

It goes through here?

Seems like most of the cross-country routes either goes north of here, or south (if not in the summer).

genejockey 11-19-21 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22313703)
If you were made of money you wouldn’t be able to ride a bike.

There is that.

big john 11-19-21 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22313710)
Without trying to, I've heard too much about SRAM hydro that I don't even want to go there.

That does make me wonder, though - how does a system built for DOT differ from one built for mineral oil? Is the viscosity so different putting the wrong fluid in the system would make it perform that poorly?

I would think the rubber parts are different. In cars, which are made for alcohol-based DOT fluid, if you put petroleum products in the brake system it causes all the seals to swell and soften. It ruins the entire system, basically.
My friends Specialized had a leak at the lever/master cylinder and the rubber hood swelled to twice it's size. I'm pretty sure it's mineral oil but that part is never supposed to contact the fluid.

Velo Vol 11-19-21 04:56 PM

Cougars go down.


big john 11-19-21 04:59 PM

There has been a police pursuit on tv for 2 hours. He drove the wrong way on the freeway and did a bunch of crazy stuff but luckily didn't hurt anyone before they got him stopped. Now he is sitting in the car surrounded by a couple dozen cops. They got a close up of his face before the cops chased the cameraman away and he was yelling at the cops. People be cray cray.
I wonder how many tens of thousand of dollars this costs the city.
The K-9 unit just showed up.

datlas 11-19-21 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22313802)
Cougars go down.

Family forum!

WhyFi 11-19-21 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22313802)
Cougars go down.


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22313834)
Family forum!

That's why we love 'em?










:innocent:


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