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Rowan 10-03-22 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22667689)
The thru-axles on my commuting bike like to unscrew themselves unless the levers are jammed so hard I worry I wonít be able to loosen them in case of a flat. However, the ones on my road bike never move. I wonder what the difference isÖ

Could be the smoothness or lack of on the drop-out on one side or the other. Could even be an angle problem on one side -- as in a slope that isn't part of the flat. And then again, there might be a circular depression where the retainers engage which actually allow tightness unless there is perfect line-up. And look on both sides each of the drop-outs to find the problem.

If making the do-up tight as possible is a solution, but hard to get undone, think about getting a piece of plastic plumbing tubing about six inches in length that will fit over the lever. Carry it in whatever bag you use with your other repair kit.

And yes, I have had one or two problems, the most memorable on my old Fuji Touring that was steel framed and broke the right-hand drop-out on the rear when blown over before the start of a 400km event. It made the event through to the end without me really knowing, except some strange gear shifting issues. I welded it back together, not perfectly, but well enough to have lasted a decade since. A few little issues rose, one of them requiring the horizontal drop-out slot (almost unheard of these days) to be bent back carefully to have parallel status again the one of the left.

So, if your bike has fallen over for some reason, have the parallel nature of the drop-outs been checked?

bampilot06 10-03-22 06:20 PM

So I think I figured out the chain skipping problem on the ritchey . Primov (probably spelt wrong) guessed right with the stuck link.

Re waxed the chain tonight, and when I put the chain back on I noticed it was doing the dance on all the cogs. I took the chain back off and broke the links in more no more chain dance pedaling back wards.

seedsbelize2 10-03-22 06:38 PM

As luck would have it, there is an on/off switch on the headlight, that I had forgotten about. Works fine now,.
:bday:

MoAlpha 10-03-22 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 22667747)
Could be the smoothness or lack of on the drop-out on one side or the other. Could even be an angle problem on one side -- as in a slope that isn't part of the flat. And then again, there might be a circular depression where the retainers engage which actually allow tightness unless there is perfect line-up. And look on both sides each of the drop-outs to find the problem.

If making the do-up tight as possible is a solution, but hard to get undone, think about getting a piece of plastic plumbing tubing about six inches in length that will fit over the lever. Carry it in whatever bag you use with your other repair kit.

And yes, I have had one or two problems, the most memorable on my old Fuji Touring that was steel framed and broke the right-hand drop-out on the rear when blown over before the start of a 400km event. It made the event through to the end without me really knowing, except some strange gear shifting issues. I welded it back together, not perfectly, but well enough to have lasted a decade since. A few little issues rose, one of them requiring the horizontal drop-out slot (almost unheard of these days) to be bent back carefully to have parallel status again the one of the left.

So, if your bike has fallen over for some reason, have the parallel nature of the drop-outs been checked?

All good ideas! The commuting bike has dropped a few times, but the dropouts are true. However it is also Ti with Al wheels and has a very harsh ride (lots if high-frequency energy), whereas the other one is all CFRP and much better damped.

indyfabz 10-03-22 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22667726)
I almost never have any issue with Look Delta pedals, but Keos are different. They don't seem to be weighted on the back side as heavily so when you push off they often spin rather than hanging in the right orientation for the front of the cleat to catch them, like the Deltas.

I used Look Delta pedals BITD. Last I can remember was 2002. I agree 100%. They were weighted nicely. They always seemed to be in the correct position for easy engagement after pushing off.

abshipp 10-03-22 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22667268)

I'm sure this is inconvenient and annoying, but to me this is such a beautiful picture. Spoke replacements that don't involve removing a tubeless tire and rim tape make me so happy.

rjones28 10-03-22 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22667698)
Speedplays on my road bikes. No flippin' flipping required. ;)

Crank Brothers on all my bikes. No flippin' flipping required. :)

big john 10-03-22 08:40 PM

The Superbowl champion Rams look amazingly incompetent.

big john 10-03-22 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22667825)
I used Look Delta pedals BITD. Last I can remember was 2002. I agree 100%. They were weighted nicely. They always seemed to be in the correct position for easy engagement after pushing off.

On my fourth set of Delta pedals. Found a very lightly used pair of Jalabert signature models on e-bay. Prior to these a friend gave me two pair, one barely used and one pair was n.o.s.

Since I use pedal extenders I need pedals with wrench flats. None of the higher end pedals have wrench flats anymore.

Rowan 10-03-22 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22667811)
All good ideas! The commuting bike has dropped a few times, but the dropouts are true. However it is also Ti with Al wheels and has a very harsh ride (lots if high-frequency energy), whereas the other one is all CFRP and much better damped.

Interesting. The favourite bikes for Machka and me are our Ti Hasa road bikes. Mine is coming up to 15,000km (I think about 9,000 miles) and also with Al wheels on each. Considering they were bought as just frames and built up by me from those, they have been beaut bikes. Originally meant for long-distance Audax rides, and I think several 400km ones are on the list of what they have done. Another 400 was planned for the weekend that was coming up when the workplace accident happened 4-1/2 years ago.

Now you have indicated the bike in question is Ti, it might be worth checking the bits of the QR that have slots machined into them and face on to the drop outs. If they are worn, which is highly likely as alloy or steel facing on to Ti, new ones or whole QR might be a solution.

LesterOfPuppets 10-03-22 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22667447)
It's amazing how much heavier they are than 2.4 tubes, and, with a spare, I am carrying 3 of them.

Yeah, I've been afraid to weigh the one I bought for backup in case of tubeless failure.

t2p 10-03-22 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22667332)
The Maxxis 2.8s on there are about 830 grams, plus the big tubes.

830 grams - yikes !

Is that a Maxxis MTB tire - or Metzler motorcycle tire ? lol

A pair of MTB tires I typically ran BITD weigh less than one Maxxis 2.8

just dug out some old 26" MTB tires - including a Kenda Klimax Lite 1.95 @ 345g per tire ...

just sayin

t2p 10-04-22 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22667382)
Finally got around to making a map of my actual tour route up to the point where I broke my seat post collar bolt.

Ride with GPS | Bike Route Planner and Cycling Navigation App

That odd "loopage" around the Bellfonte/Bald Eagle area represents some shopping. etc., mileage I did after going to the park office to register, riding to the primitive camping area, which is miles from the park office and then heading into town for groceries, all before my rest day the next day. Odometer read 502 miles at time of bolt breakage. The discrepancy can be explained by, among other things, the mileage I put in during my day off, which included a ride back to the main part of Bald Eagle State Park for a shower and lunch down by the beach while I charged the phone and external battery.

Did you create a separate thread for this ride ?

If not - interested in how this ride compared to any previous similar rides etc ... bike, supplies and equipment ... etc

t2p 10-04-22 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22666760)

My neighbor is into vintage drag cars

The Chevy II is his latest

t2p 10-04-22 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22667871)
The Superbowl champion Rams look amazingly incompetent.

Rams could not tackle Deebo Samuel - but were able to tackle the protester that ran on to the field

indyfabz 10-04-22 04:40 AM

Hadnít had one of these days in a long time.

Wordle 472 5/6

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datlas 10-04-22 05:14 AM

Registration for next April's Mallorca 312 opened this morning. I am in!

:bday:

datlas 10-04-22 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22668036)
Hadnít had one of these days in a long time.

Wordle 472 5/6

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I got 5/6 today too, but I get them pretty often.

datlas 10-04-22 05:15 AM

I don't expect them to advance, but looks like the local baseball team made the post-season.

MoAlpha 10-04-22 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 22667925)
Interesting. The favourite bikes for Machka and me are our Ti Hasa road bikes. Mine is coming up to 15,000km (I think about 9,000 miles) and also with Al wheels on each. Considering they were bought as just frames and built up by me from those, they have been beaut bikes. Originally meant for long-distance Audax rides, and I think several 400km ones are on the list of what they have done. Another 400 was planned for the weekend that was coming up when the workplace accident happened 4-1/2 years ago.

Now you have indicated the bike in question is Ti, it might be worth checking the bits of the QR that have slots machined into them and face on to the drop outs. If they are worn, which is highly likely as alloy or steel facing on to Ti, new ones or whole QR might be a solution.

This has happened since everything was new. None of the axles in question have any machining on the contact faces.

seedsbelize2 10-04-22 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22668044)
Registration for next April's Mallorca 312 opened this morning. I am in!

:bday:

:bday:

seedsbelize2 10-04-22 07:09 AM

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big john 10-04-22 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by t2p (Post 22667973)
830 grams - yikes !

Is that a Maxxis MTB tire - or Metzler motorcycle tire ? lol

A pair of MTB tires I typically ran BITD weigh less than one Maxxis 2.8

just dug out some old 26" MTB tires - including a Kenda Klimax Lite 1.95 @ 345g per tire ...

just sayin

A big knock against modern "enduro" style bikes is their weight. Mine is somewhat low-end and it weighs 32 pounds. More expensive bikes in the category are a few pounds lighter but these bikes are more capable of high speed through rough terrain than any bikes from years ago. My bike is bigger, has more suspension, and better brakes than my first motorcycle.

The tires are heavy, I could put smaller, lighter tires on but these things are amazing. I've gone through piles of sharp rocks and the bike just cruises through. Descending a rough sandstone hill which was a nightmare on my old hardtail 26er is nothing for this set-up.

The tires downhill racers and pro enduro racers use are in the range of 1200 grams. I'm sure the body armor, full face helmet e-bike warriors I see are running downhill tires.

rjones28 10-04-22 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by t2p (Post 22667981)
My neighbor is into vintage drag cars

The Chevy II is his latest

That same car after a major rebuild and update carried out in the 1970s.

It spent the offseason on the show circuit.

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t2p 10-04-22 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22668052)
This has happened since everything was new. None of the axles in question have any machining on the contact faces.

I don't believe the contact faces of thru axles have a serrated or machined surface to improve 'grip' - but I might be mistaken ... only have one bike with thru axles

Rowan's mention of slots or machined surface on a QR do not apply in your case (if the bike has thru axles)

the threads on your thru axles and/or the dropouts on the commuter bike might just be a tad 'loose' ... might be more common on thru axles with a 1.5 thread pitch (compared to a 1.0 thread pitch) ?

thru axle obviously has merit - but threads in the dropouts ... I dunno ...

MoAlpha 10-04-22 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by t2p (Post 22668097)
I don't believe the contact faces of thru axles have a serrated or machined surface to improve 'grip' - but I might be mistaken ... only have one bike with thru axles

Rowan's mention of slots or machined surface on a QR do not apply in your case (if the bike has thru axles)

the threads on your thru axles and/or the dropouts on the commuter bike might just be a tad 'loose' ... might be more common on thru axles with a 1.5 thread pitch (compared to a 1.0 thread pitch) ?

thru axle obviously has merit - but threads in the dropouts ... I dunno ...

Yes, I've never seen machining on a TA. No obvious slop in the threads. Don't know the pitch offhand. I would think putting axial load on the system with the clamp would de-slop it, but what do I know?

indyfabz 10-04-22 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by t2p (Post 22667977)
Did you create a separate thread for this ride ?

If not - interested in how this ride compared to any previous similar rides etc ... bike, supplies and equipment ... etc

I haven't and don't know if I will get around to it anytime soon.

This was the third time I attempted Vienna, OH home to Philly. First tie went fine. Second time a freak weather turn that developed between me picking up the rental car and me reaching OH caused me to abandon after 3 days of riding. It literally rained every minute I was on the bike. At times I was riding through more than an inch of water on the road. And it was cold. And I had a headwind. if that wasn't bad enough, I was heading towards the remnants of a hurricane. Got motel rooms every night. A very old friend--the guy who got me into cycling back in the 80s--drove over 5 hrs. to pick md up in DuBois, PA, and then another 4 hrs. back to his "country" place then home to Philly the next morning.

This trip I changed the route in places to make camping a little nicer. Stayed in two state parks and one county park that were new to me. I sometimes make meals logistically more difficult than they need to be because I will go out of my way or carry supplies instead of hitting up the Dollar Store. I usually eat out the last night for the sake of convenience, which I did again this time. But I also got prepared food the penultimate night. The night of my day off I tried to start a campfire using my stove fuel and ended up spilling some, so I was running low. In hindsight, I probably could have made dinner the penultimate night, but I didn't want to risk not having enough fuel for coffee the final two mornings. Over all, I don't think meal logistics were are tougher than usual. I have done touring in MT and ID that has required me to carry supplies a long way, including over a 16 mile, unpaved mountain pass.

One real bummer is that I trashed my Sony RX100 II camera. I got to the top of the "hill" that crosses the Allegheny Mountains. I was raining and very foggy. I took a photo and put the camera back in the chest pocket of my rain jacket in preparation for the 6 mile descent into Clearfield. The little case was not zippered (as usual), but I forgot to zipper the pocket. The rain and wind were blowing at me during the entire descent. (Conditions were so bad I had to wear my my glasses on the edge of my nose so I could see. Max speed on the descent was a bit over 27 mph. On a clear, dry day I would have probably hit close to 39 mph on the smooth, wide shoulder of U.S. 322.) Didn't discover my error until I stopped at a c-store in town. By then, it was too late. Hoping to salvage the photos off the card because I think there are some decent shots of one of the two bald eagles I saw on the second day of the trip.

primov8 10-04-22 09:00 AM

I've got a couple rides on the EM Strada now and not only is the ride smoother than the Helix, it has characteristics of my favorite carbon build, a Storck Scenero G3. The Strada's frameset, with its geometry focused on comfort feels calm and predictable. But when picking up the pace or hard efforts out the saddle, it feels so lively and very responsive which I wasn't expecting from this frameset. Yet, everything seems to smooth out because of the steel tubing.

datlas 10-04-22 09:12 AM

It's not quite biblical, but it's been raining since Friday afternoon and likely to continue until tomorrow afternoon. No riding tomorrow morning.

#FirstWorldProblems

indyfabz 10-04-22 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22668182)
It's not quite biblical, but it's been raining since Friday afternoon and likely to continue until tomorrow afternoon. No riding tomorrow morning.

#FirstWorldProblems

I was just going to post that it has been raining since Friday.


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