Newest Dura-ace and Ultegra will be electronic only
newest Dura-ace and Ultregra will be 12 speed and electronic only
this is a bummer IMHO am thinking I am either going to have to get a couple of sets of current Ultegra or look to switching to Campy for either vintage frame with modern mechanics, or hoped for custom....or just stick with 105 https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shima...gra-di2-r8100/ |
Originally Posted by squirtdad
(Post 22213775)
newest Dura-ace and Ultregra will be 12 speed and electronic only
this is a bummer IMHO am thinking I am either going to have to get a couple of sets of current Ultegra or look to switching to Campy for either vintage frame with modern mechanics, or hoped for custom....or just stick with 105 https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shima...gra-di2-r8100/ |
At least they still gave us rim brake and no new hub standard.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
(Post 22213780)
Is it not possible to run the Di2 on a vintage frame?
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Originally Posted by shoota
(Post 22213781)
At least they still gave us rim brake and no new hub standard.
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Glad I starter padding my parts bin a while ago!
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Originally Posted by squirtdad
(Post 22213775)
newest Dura-ace and Ultregra will be 12 speed and electronic only
this is a bummer IMHO am thinking I am either going to have to get a couple of sets of current Ultegra or look to switching to Campy for either vintage frame with modern mechanics, or hoped for custom....or just stick with 105 https://www.bikeradar.com/news/shima...gra-di2-r8100/ |
Deep down, you want Campy. Now you have an excuse.
Proposing a new sub forum: ——Rim Brake & Mechanical Shifting.—— |
I'm definitely e-curious. Saw this product on bikepacking.com for 1x setups:
https://archercomponents.com/ I look forward to the 2 x 11 road version! |
Originally Posted by squirtdad
(Post 22213851)
true, almost a surprise there, but probably rim brake on high end will be next to go
Personally, if I had the money to buy new Dura Ace, I'd probably put it on either a top level CF bike OR a custom steel, something like Officina Battaglin makes. But I don't. So I'll keep buying old bikes with old groupsets. |
Originally Posted by onyerleft
(Post 22213971)
You think this is a big deal, wait until they starting phasing out mechanical shifting down the range, like 105, then Tiagra, then Sora, etc., etc. Eventually only Tourney will be non-electronic.
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The cost of new group sets is abysmal. I can purchase a full course from the Ford Performance Racing School and learn how to drive a performance car professionally (Mustang GT provided), or I can buy 1/2 of a functional bike that shifts electronically.
You can get into nearly any other professional sport, or you can have 1/2 a bike. You can purchase a new vehicle or put a down payment on property, or you can have 1/2 a bike. Push to start index fingers and shifters have worked for decades. The greatest of all time didn’t use di2! |
Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 22213919)
I'm definitely e-curious. Saw this product on bikepacking.com for 1x setups:
https://archercomponents.com/ I look forward to the 2 x 11 road version! Neal, now that's not Cino! Actually, I think it is a rather cool gizmo that would be perfect for my 54 speed Cannondale hybrid. :D |
Originally Posted by SoccerBallXan
(Post 22213990)
The greatest of all time didn’t use di2!
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So clicky shifters are now C&V acceptable? And e shifting is out?
Asking for a friend. |
Most of the bikes around this forum were built as well engineered, simple, long lasting machines. With new tech, the manufacturers have delivered high performance and high cost, not very simple, not long lasting machines.
Just like the new cars, the new bikes will be junked due to high cost of repair. The new high performance bikes will make professionals happy with speed and handling, ensuring positive reviews. The new generation of electronic shifting consumer bikes will work well for the warranty period, then disintegrate into a pile of plastic scrap. |
A plastic bike with many plastic credit cards to keep it rolling!
When 11 now 12 were coming out I snagged a few good 9 and 10 wheel sets for pennies on the dollar. Waiting for the rim brakes to come along now. |
3 or 4,years from now, 9200 won't be capable of running the newest updates and 9400 will require a renewable yearly contract. I read the above linked review and the only part I kinda understand is "faster shifting"
I want some 6-7 Speed HG+ chains, cogs and chainrings. |
I really can’t see any reason to buy Di2 over AXS if I was in the market for electric shifting.
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Launching groups that depend on electronics to shift at a time when chips are in short supply? What could possibly go wrong?
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Sounds like more things that can go wrong, for a poop load of money.
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Well, if the ad I saw on this site before I logged in is true, then the future is AI equipped self driving bicycles. Engineer ourselves right out of the equation. Just let the bikes out when you let the dogs out. Riderless TDF anyone?
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Originally Posted by BFisher
(Post 22214845)
Well, if the ad I saw on this site before I logged in is true, then the future is AI equipped self driving bicycles. Engineer ourselves right out of the equation. Just let the bikes out when you let the dogs out. Riderless TDF anyone?
https://www.core77.com/posts/109833/...ium=from_title https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d9284e3ccd.png |
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