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wahoonc 09-12-10 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 11450075)
Right, but these days, manufacturers don't even aim to make things durable. Performance is stressed over durability. This is not just in the bike industry. Remember when you couldn't buy phones, and it was illegal to hook up a phone to your line? You only leased phones from the phone company, and they weighed several pounds, had no features, and you couldn't break them with your hands. They had to send a repairman out to replace phones, so they made them to last. If you wanted to buy one of these phones today, and if they still made them, they would cost $200. But today's buyer wants more features than were offered than last year, so a featureless phone, designed to last decades, won't command an appropriate price.

There are still a few of us out there that prefer durability and repariability over bells, whistles and cheap prices. Unfortunately we are in the minority and have to the best we can with what we can find. Too many people look at the immediate cost and not the long term.

Aaron :)

markk900 09-12-10 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 11450127)
There are still a few of us out there that prefer durability and repariability over bells, whistles and cheap prices. Unfortunately we are in the minority and have to the best we can with what we can find. Too many people look at the immediate cost and not the long term.

Aaron :)

+1, though note the irony in not wanting bells when talking about old phones.....

noglider 09-12-10 08:06 AM

I agree, Aaron, but we are not a significantly large market for the makers to make stuff for us. That's why we mostly collect old stuff.

wahoonc 09-12-10 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by markk900 (Post 11450182)
+1, though note the irony in not wanting bells when talking about old phones.....


Yup but those were REAL bells as opposed to the synthesized ones you get today.:D


Aaron :)

mickey85 09-12-10 09:25 AM

Rode my Phillips to church today and had to stop and take this photo:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...3/IMAG0032.jpg

Thought you guys would appreciate it. It's only too bad that I don't have that '58 Dawn Tourist up and running - it would look a lot more appropriate.

snarkypup 09-12-10 09:15 PM

Just took glamor shots of the "finished" Sports (finished till I get off the damned rock hard cork grips, beautiful as they are). It's a '69, I think (my hub has no date, but the stickers etc. date it that way).

Today I rode it 13 miles. Ten with my eldest step-daughter, who was sweating it out on her little cheapy Columbia by the end, and then turned right around and did three with my youngest step-daughter, to get the glamor shots on the first sunny day in a long time. It is heavy, but it rolls so comfortably, I hardly notice the miles going by. Our route was mostly flat, but at one point we have a 250 degree turn to go under the highway and back out. The turn is really, really steep, though short. I just cruised up it in first gear, while both girls had to walk their little bikes up. I have done many moderate hills on it with no problem. I love to go to the grocery store on the Sports. I load up the baskets and ride home: eight miles round trip. If I had a relatively flat commute, I would never use another bike. Unfortunately, I have some monsters on the way to my work. But if I were riding 4-10 miles, few hills... this would be my only bike. Total dream to ride.

With Basil pannier baskets on:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/...f1613c5590.jpg
glamorshotnew3 by snarkypup, on Flickr

With baskets off:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/...db2743a119.jpg
glamorshotnew1 by snarkypup, on Flickr

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/...7d53087b10.jpg
glamorshotnew4 by snarkypup, on Flickr

ohjonnybegoode 09-12-10 11:09 PM

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Cleaned up the old Gazelle I bought last week...still needs a more thorough detailing, but was able to get the layer of dust and grime off of it. It's a '61 if the date on the S/A hub is to be believed. Really cool old bike...unfortunantly, it will be moving on to a new home soon....

Andrew F 09-13-10 04:20 PM

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How absolutley beautiful! Now I want a red one!

This is a little off the intent of the thread, but it's an English 3spd IGH, an S3x, and the rest carries the venerable Raliegh name even though it was crafted in Japan. On my 5th or 6th ride, I slammed a pot hole... :eek: bent the rim :cry: I have to learn to pay attention to the road and not the scenery and learn to unweight the wheels while spinning. Really a lovely performing machine.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=169490

noglider 09-13-10 04:30 PM

That bike is absolutely allowed here in this thread!

Looks like a lot of fun. It's huge for me, but I gotta try it anyway.

Andrew F 09-13-10 05:58 PM


Looks like a lot of fun. It's huge for me, but I gotta try it anyway.
You'll fit, it's a 64cm but the cranks are only 170s.

noglider 09-13-10 06:00 PM

I won't fit, but I can ride it. I can ride bikes of all sizes, from tiny 12" wheel kids bikes to tall people's bikes. It's in a bike mechanic's skill set.

wahoonc 09-13-10 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Andrew F (Post 11459020)
You'll fit, it's a 64cm but the cranks are only 170s.

That is in my size range...but I usually ride 65's :p

Aaron :)

Andrew F 09-13-10 09:02 PM

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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=169566I think I'm in love.

snarkypup 09-14-10 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Andrew F (Post 11458520)
How absolutley beautiful! Now I want a red one!

This is a little off the intent of the thread, but it's an English 3spd IGH, an S3x, and the rest carries the venerable Raliegh name even though it was crafted in Japan. On my 5th or 6th ride, I slammed a pot hole... :eek: bent the rim :cry: I have to learn to pay attention to the road and not the scenery and learn to unweight the wheels while spinning. Really a lovely performing machine.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=169490

Love it! Very pretty. And the first bike I tried to buy when I decided to do a 3-speed, was actually a bright red 5-speed Sprite, complete with chain guard and everything. Still, I think the brown suits me (I even had a brown Nutcase helmet already, though it didn't match my bike at the time). I feel distinguised, and it's unusual. My six year-old has already told me that he wants a bike like mine, in red, when he's a grown-up, but I think I'll wait and see on that one. He also thinks he's going to be a Jedi.

greengage 09-15-10 06:51 AM

Beautiful--love the tires, the grips and the bag--what kind of bag is that?

Originally Posted by snarkypup (Post 11453725)
Just took glamor shots of the "finished" Sports (finished till I get off the damned rock hard cork grips, beautiful as they are). It's a '69, I think (my hub has no date, but the stickers etc. date it that way).

Today I rode it 13 miles. Ten with my eldest step-daughter, who was sweating it out on her little cheapy Columbia by the end, and then turned right around and did three with my youngest step-daughter, to get the glamor shots on the first sunny day in a long time. It is heavy, but it rolls so comfortably, I hardly notice the miles going by. Our route was mostly flat, but at one point we have a 250 degree turn to go under the highway and back out. The turn is really, really steep, though short. I just cruised up it in first gear, while both girls had to walk their little bikes up. I have done many moderate hills on it with no problem. I love to go to the grocery store on the Sports. I load up the baskets and ride home: eight miles round trip. If I had a relatively flat commute, I would never use another bike. Unfortunately, I have some monsters on the way to my work. But if I were riding 4-10 miles, few hills... this would be my only bike. Total dream to ride.

With Basil pannier baskets on:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/...f1613c5590.jpg
glamorshotnew3 by snarkypup, on Flickr

With baskets off:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4090/...db2743a119.jpg
glamorshotnew1 by snarkypup, on Flickr

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4125/...7d53087b10.jpg
glamorshotnew4 by snarkypup, on Flickr


kingsting 09-15-10 08:18 PM

Here's a recent find. A 1982 Dutch Raleigh Cameo...

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...leighcameo.jpg

rear wheel lock
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...hcameolock.jpg

And a locking fork!
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...eoforklock.jpg

Stainless rims with Woods valves
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...woodsvalve.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...ghcameorim.jpg

Dealership?
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...meosticker.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w...meoengland.jpg

Sixty Fiver 09-15-10 08:47 PM

kingsting... If my better half saw that she would be giddy.

Gorgeous bike.

kingsting 09-15-10 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 11472342)
kingsting... If my better half saw that she would be giddy.

Gorgeous bike.

Thanks!

I bought it for my better half but she likes her 72' Superbe more than this one.

Sixty Fiver 09-15-10 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by kingsting (Post 11472362)
Thanks!

I bought it for my better half but she likes her 72' Superbe more than this one.

If you find that the bike is gathering dust or ever needs a new home... send me a note.

David Newton 09-15-10 09:38 PM

Man, that is a beauty!

Chicago Al 09-15-10 09:55 PM

I posted this on the 'Are You Looking...' thread: there is an inexpensive ($90), clean looking Ladies style Phillips 3 speed on Chicago CL presently (9/15/10).
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/bik/1954344618.html

(Also on Chicago CL is a his and hers Phillips pair at $300 but they don't look so clean.)

mkeller234 09-15-10 10:05 PM

That Dutch Raleigh takes the cake.

gaucho777 09-15-10 10:29 PM

Those photos needed repeating. Beautiful! :thumb: So much to love--the cameo decal, fenders, full circle chaingaurd, locking fork (brilliant!), pristine condition, and on and on. More photos welcome, particularly of the cranks, headbadge and handlebar/light setup.

snarkypup 09-15-10 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by greengage (Post 11467486)
Beautiful--love the tires, the grips and the bag--what kind of bag is that?

It's a little Minnehaha Small Barrel Saddlebag from Velo Orange. Under $30, and it's cute. Just canvas and leather. I keep headlamp batteries, a mini screwdriver, my wallet, keys and phone in it when I ride, and that's about what it fits. I managed to shove the zip-off legs of my convertable pants in it too when I rode out to take the shots, but it was a tight fit. It does have an adjustable closure, and that helped. Very small, but that's what I wanted, since I have the panniers. I really like it, but if this were a bike for even slightly longer journeys without the panniers, I'd get something bigger. Link:
http://www.velo-orange.com/mismbasabag.html

snarkypup 09-15-10 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by gaucho777 (Post 11472777)
Those photos needed repeating. Beautiful! :thumb: So much to love--the cameo decal, fenders, full circle chaingaurd, locking fork (brilliant!), pristine condition, and on and on. More photos welcome, particularly of the cranks, headbadge and handlebar/light setup.

Absolutely agreed. Swoon! That bike is really, really pretty.


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